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    Halstow
    This is Halstow, the latest craft to come off the ways of the Nerys shipyard. She is a Thames motor barge shown here loaded with a deck cargo of timber. To be loaded like this would be nothing unusual. The helmsman would be steering by compass whilst the mate would be standing near by looking out for any obstruction. This model is not yet quite complete and I will update when crew and deck furniture have been added. Cheers, Nerys
    Yantlet
    Yantlet is a model of an auxiliary Thames barge. In the post WW2 years, many barges had auxiliary engines fitted and continued to trade with the traditional cargoes and going to the same destinations as the pure sailing barges had always done. Later of course, many were cut down to pure motor barges before all the traditional work ended.
    An RTR addition
    A while ago, several of our members at Vale of Glamorgan MBC were showing an interest in the Dragonforce65 and a number of us were interested enough to purchase one. Enough in fact that we are starting regular racing for them shortly. Cheers, Nerys
    Dutch Schouw Yacht
    This is 'De Groene Draek' a Dutch Schouw yacht. She is scratchbuilt from drawings in a book called 'Ronde en Platboden Jachten' which I bought in Barcelona forty odd years ago. She is 30" long with 9" beam. She is shown here on the 'quayside' as travel restrictions in Wales preclude me from launching her for the moment.
    Swim Head Stumpy Thames Barge
    This is my latest model, a swim head stumpy, prolific in the creeks and rivers of the Thames and Medway until about the 1930's She is scratch built, 30 " long. In keeping with other barges I have built, I have named her 'Harty' as in Isle of, or Ferry, part of the Isle of Sheppey which is separated from the Kentish Shore by the River Swale. First Minister Drakeford says I must not sail her at the moment, but let's hope that day will come before too long.
    Crash Tender
    I bought a part finished 36" crash tender from one of our members who was going to live in foreign parts. Trying to be a bit more individualistic, I have not finished her in the conventional colours but I'm pleased with the result. Unfortunately, under existing isolating conditions, I have been unable to launch her, however she is sitting on the harbour side waiting for a lifting of restrictions. Cheers, Nerys.
    Thames Sailing Barge 'Stangate'
    'Stangate' is a 1/24 model sailing barge based on a 'Portlight' hull from Dave Watts Mastman. She is seen here sailing for the first time at Cold Knap Lake, Barry. The wind was rather flukey so a good test was not really possible, but she answered the helm positively and I have every reason to think she will sail well.
    Motor Barge 'Nellie'
    In the 1940s and 50s, many traditional Thames Sailing barges were converted into motor barges. This is a model, based on photos and my memory of the 'Nellie'. The sailing barge 'Nellie' was built by Cremers at Hollowshore, Faversham in 1901,. She traded under sail carrying about 90 tons of cargo around the Thames, Medway and Swale until about 1952 and then had the gear taken out, a Chrysler Crown petrol/paraffin motor installed and carried on trading for some years owned by R.Lapthorne & Co of Hoo on the River Medway.. She was eventually sold out of trade and is now privately owned. She has been rerigged with a reduced sailing barge rig without a topsail. My model is based on a 30" barge hull from Dave Watts Mastman.
    Alice C
    I built Alice C from a Model Slipways Dutch Coaster kit a few months ago but only this week got round to ballasting her and fitting the radio. Launched her this morning in not very favourable conditions, westerly, far too gusty and all over the place around our launching apron. She did well under the circumstances and I look forward to trying her on a better day.
    Upnor, Thames Sailing Barge
    I have had a lifetime love affair with Thames Sailing Barges and this is my first model of one. She is based on a 30" hull from 'Mastman' (Dave Watts}. Launched for the first time today at Cold Knap lake, Barry, South Wales she did everything asked of her.
    (Working Vessel) Gwyneth
    I have never added to my fleet by buying in before, but looking at the Bring and Buy stall at the Blackpool show recently I couldn't resist this little boat. I like fishing boats anyway, but this boat was beautifully built, clinker on frame, planked decks, good standard of woodwork, altogether, a worthy addition to my fleet. I sailed her for the first time today and was well pleased with her performance. (5/10)
    (Pleasure Craft) Sea Commander
    Built from an Aerokits kit. Very pleased with performance, comes up onto the plane quite easily (Motor: Caldercraft 750) (ESC: Chinese generic) (9/10)
    (Other) Sharpie
    Scratch built model of a typical East Coast of America sharpie. Used as a general work/ fishing boat. Fitted with topsails a few weeks after original launching. Appears to have greatly improved performance, but there was rather too much wind for a fair assessment and my partner had no desire to go wading in the lake. (5/10)
    (Yacht) Carina
    My second effort, an Aeronaut Bella. (8/10)
    (Other) Gwylan
    This was my first attempt at building a model boat, decided that model boat building would be a suitable hobby for a lady of 85, no longer fit enough to sail real boats. (8/10)
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    ๐Ÿ“ A Trip to Windermere Boat Museum
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    Something I thought was good about the Windermere museum was the fact that one could borrow, presumably for a fee, a simple pond yacht to sail on their pond. They sold them of course, I think they were ยฃ50. Lots of interesting boats in the museum, well worth a visit, let's face it, what tourist attraction is cheap these days.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Halstow
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    Here are a few more photos of Halstow showing her without the deck cargo.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Halstow
    13 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry Howard, but there are no drawings for this or any other of my barges, they are all built, as the real ones were, by eye. I've said it many times, 'If it looks right, it probably is.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Halstow
    15 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    Halstow is unfinished as regards deck fittings such as navigation lights, lifebelts anchor winch etc but I was keen to try her out as all the electrics were in place. She should be finished in a few days then I'll post more pictures.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Halstow
    17 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    This is Halstow, the latest craft to come off the ways of the Nerys shipyard. She is a Thames motor barge shown here loaded with a deck cargo of timber. To be loaded like this would be nothing unusual. The helmsman would be steering by compass whilst the mate would be standing near by looking out for any obstruction. This model is not yet quite complete and I will update when crew and deck furniture have been added.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ wether to paint or patch
    19 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    From what you say, I'd be inclined to rub pack and paint the whole of the hull. If you try and patch there could well be differences in the paint.

    Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: High jacking threads.
    20 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I quite agree with all the others, please don't leave, I've always read your posts with interest and never seen anything that could be considered offensive to any normal person.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    22 days ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I was talking recently about the imbalance of kits of sailing craft against kits of power craft and the availability of Ready to Run yachts. This was exemplified to me when I had the pleasure of sailing with the Barry Model Boat Club recently and was delighted to see that there were at least a dozen sails on the lake, but apart from my 'Bella' they were all DF65s, 95s and similar Ready to Run yachts. The power craft came later. Nothing against the R to Rs , pleased that people enjoy sailing enough to want one, but it would be nice to see more general sailing boats on our lakes.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    1 month ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I am not saying that the only way to build sailing craft is with a kit, my contention is that if there were more kits of such craft, more would be built and make died in the wool, stick and string sailors like me happy to see more sails on the lakes. In fact, I spent a very happy afternoon this week, sailing the second model I ever built from a kit, An Aeronaut 'Bella'. a lovely sailer . I quite agree, scratch building whether literally from scratch or from a moulded hull are fine. Whether it is cheaper than a kit, I'm not sure, but I can think of one kitmaker who charges a 'handling' or 'administration' charge of, if I remember correctly, ยฃ30 on an already very expensive kit, in addition to carriage. Enough said.
    I consider myself to be a model Thames Barge builder and have used moulded hulls as well as building from scratch. Unfortunately the source of the moulded hulls appears to have dried up with the retirement of 'Mastman'.So, it's scratchbuilding for me from now on. I do not use plans either, I work as the real barge builders of old did, and knowing barges as well as I do, I build by eye, if it looks right, it must be.And I've yet to have a failure.
    I digress, our hobby has come about from the great Victorian tradition of the pond yacht. Marbleheads and One Metres spring to mind but such aristocrats were nothing compared to the simple model carved from a solid block that every boy received for Christmas. I don't doubt some of our members still possess theirs, or one they've bought since. This is what I'd like to see, loads of very simple model yachts swarming on our lakes. Whether built from kits or not, who cares.

    Footnote; yes Ron, a scrollsaw is a great tool to have.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    1 month ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Going back to the correspondence on the shortage of sailing craft at the show I am wondering if this is due to the lack of kits of sailing craft on general sale. Having had a quick look through, I can only find four kits, all from the Aeronaut stable and the availability of these is questionable. Surely if there was more choice, more would be built. As far as I can see, the desire to sail is there, hence the number of ready to run yachts available. Yes there are a few part kits, such as Sarik's Thames Barge Veronica, but these can be considered specialised.
    So, what is it, more kits equals more sailing craft?

    Cheers, Nerys
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    1 month ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, Dave. The lorries etc don't worry me at all, I'm only too pleased to see members coming along and taking part in our hobby, whatever the branch. I know several of the lorry members also own boats, but they don't seem to bring them out very often these days. I'm a bit limited myself at the moment, water is a bit low and I can't use any of my sailing craft, so I'm stuck with motor boats. Never know, it might drive me to buy a Land Rover or something Cheers, Nerys..
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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    There seemed to me to be a lot more vehicles at the show this year, in fact the whole of the smaller hall and I am wondering if this is a tendency creeping in which is likely to dominate our hobby in years to come. Even one of the clubs where I sail has several members with fleets of lorries, one even claims to have a whole armoured division of tanks. This is all very well, because the club has a large tarmacadamed area adjacent to the lake, which is ideal for them, but I find that very often, I am the only person sailing a boat whilst there are lorries running around all over the place. It disturbs me, how do others feel?

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I agree with AndyB about the lack of sailing boats at the show, but I have always found this and, let's face it, we see far more motorboats than sailers at the lake. I agree also about the lovely J Class Yachts, absolutely superb. How I'd like the gaff rigged example. However in saying that I don't want to take anything away from the utterly lovely model Folkboats on the same stand.These boats made the show for me.

    Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Trafalgar Day
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    TRAFALGAR DAY 21st October

    To celebrate this auspicious day it is suggested that all members of this forum should hold a Make and Mend and on the call of "UP SPIRITS", (Hold fast the Holy Ghost) at eight bells in the Forenoon Watch, an extra tot be issued and partaken.

    Nerys, Fleet Admiral, Model Boats Navy UK waters
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    ๐Ÿ“ Boat Show
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    We visited the show on Sunday morning and I thought how quiet it was compared with when I had visited in previous years on a Saturday.All in all, although the models were superb, as usual, they could not be seen to their best advantage by the lousy lighting in the hall. The traders too must have despaired at their customers not being able to see all the components on sale properly . We know the hotel is a dump, but if they want to to rent out their hall, they should spend a bit of money on it, not least in the lighting. It wouldn't cost that much. I was also surprised at how early the whole show disintegrated on the Sunday afternoon, but I suppose if the visitors had ceased coming in, there was little point in carrying on the agony.
    Was it worth going? Yes, but I would try to go on the Saturday another year.
    Let's hope that Meridian are able to run the Warwick show again next year, Blackpool is a long way for anyone living in the South.

    Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Has anyone built an sailing Dory?
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Yes, I build most of my barges with detachable keel. They are much easier to handle at home and in transportation with a nice flat bottom. I do have one though which has a fixed keel called a "ducks foot"which was a grp moulding made by " Mastman", filled with resin and lead shot, it had a flat bottom so that the barge could sit on it's false keel. Works!

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Has anyone built an sailing Dory?
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    A bulb and fin can be a problem in a weedy lake. What do you normally use? I can't see a dory sailing without something down deep under her. I like the rig in the pics. You get an indication of the shape of the dory in those pics. I know mine was to say the least, cranky, until she had some weight in her. Then, the more weight, the more stable she became.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Interesting reading.
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You're right Colin, sailing hasn't altered over the years, the boats have though and the equipment.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Has anyone built an sailing Dory?
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    A dory would be an interesting project. Stability might be an issue because of the cross section, narrow at the bottom and becoming much beamier near the gunwhale level. Definitely think a fin keel and bulb would be needed. My only experience is with a 16 ft rowing dory I owned many years ago. One had to be careful getting in and out of her as she would tip to one side as soon as you looked at her, though she wouldn't actually dip a gunwhale under water.As far as a sailing model is concerned, should work. Would you deck or part deck her to protect radio equipment?

    As far as sailing ability of the dory is concerned, think of the documented evidence of the small fishing dories becoming detached from their mother ships, the Grand Banks schooners and sailing across the Atlantic to Ireland.

    I built a New England sharpie model some years ago, she sailed reasonably well. She had two freestanding masts, one right forward, cat boat fashion. I gave her gaff sails on each mast and later added topsails.

    I look forward to seeing more of your dory as work progresses.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Thames Sailing Barges
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I've sent you one too.

    Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Thames Sailing Barges
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I am surprised at that, I have had no problems contacting the TSB Trust. Pity because I think the James Piper design is one of the more successful as a model. I have built four of them and wouldn't repeat something which didn't work.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Thames Sailing Barges
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Pleased to see that you are being helped in your quest for the plans of a model barge. The Thames Sailing Barge Trust have the plans of six real barges available for sale but hopefully you are receiving the plans as adapted for a model i.e advice on keel etc.
    Please keep us informed of your progress with this project, we are always interested and will give any advice you may need.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Chinese model parts supplers
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It's not only China as CB90 points out, the EU presents problems too. Take one individual German supplier. Aeronaut boat kits. Normally readily available from a number of suppliers in the UK.Look at their lists, and what do you see against many of their more popular kits, "unavailable" "unavailable" "unavailable". And what can be responsible for this, well I have heard Brexit mentioned and the difficulty of importing anything from our former partners.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I'm not trying to alter the direction of this thread, but have you noticed how supermarket prices have risen, it seems that every time we go shopping, prices have risen . Just a few coppers, but practically weekly. I'm beginning to think that greed has taken over from increased production , shipping or raw material costs.

    cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Chinese model parts supplers
    2 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    We have found the same thing, almost anything you want is unavailable, even if it is on order from UK suppliers. I have also noticed a number of sharp price increases. A few months ago, for instance, I bought a Chinese model tug on Ebay, it was about ยฃ67. Then it disappeared from the listings, only to reappear a few days ago at ยฃ267.
    Cheers,
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    ๐Ÿ“ A quiet day on the lake.
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Missed you again Colin, we were there on Sunday around lunchtime.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Fleet Review
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking forward to happier times, it has long been the custom to hold a Royal Fleet Review at Spithead following a Coronation. I wonder if we will be treated to one after the Coronation of King Charles.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Changed to a Gaff rig
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Daggerboard not quite big enough? Perhaps it should go straight down. Bigger, heavier daggerboard may make her better in a breeze.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Changed to a Gaff rig
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry Ron, English expression, meaning,' you already know this'

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    ๐Ÿ“ Changed to a Gaff rig
    3 months ago by Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She looks nice with the gaff rig, perhaps a bit more ballast if you try her with this rig again.
    That schooner looks good too, well balanced rig but perhaps slightly overcanvassed in a blow, Shut up Nerys your trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

    cheers, Nerys
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