7 months ago by
๐ณ๐ฟ Nick Ward (

Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
Hi all,
further to my last post, I've just done some more pricing/research and as a result have made some decisions (prompting some more requests for your thoughts on my observations if at all possible) with regard to Vivacity.
My continuing analysis of the brushed versus brushless question has, I believe, reached a sensible conclusion; - there is no longer any point pursuing a geared brushed set up with this size of model, when there is a viable (and actually cheaper, I have found to my amazement) brushless set-up which gives more power, is lighter, and with sensible selection of motor kv/lipo battery capacity and capability to deliver higher currents without over-revving an appropriate prop, will almost certainly allow the model to perform admirably. One solution I have just costed out came out between 30% and 40% cheaper than a brushed set-up, using a high capacity 4s Lipo, which should easily be able to generate 750watts, double that of the best brushed motor. Yes it will require a smaller prop, but the max speed at this set up is around 9000rpm (4082 motor with 600kv rating, at nominal 16+ volts charged from 4s lipo = around 9600rpm without load- I suspect an M5 60mm 3blade brass prop will perform well at even half this rpm, and even if the current is up to the 52 amp max this motor can take, the costing includes a 90amp watercooled ESC ). Remember, we are looking for 'majestically' rising up on the plane , not skimming the surface of the water, more 'carving' through it๐ค at a 'reasonable' pace.
With all the above in mind, if I cannot acquire the desired 18" tube and shaft, I CAN get a similar diameter M5 thread 350mm (14") one; all this will mean is the motor will be set further towards the rear and possibly lower in the hull with a steeper shaft angle, but not as steep as the Beachcombers, so it should still work.
With regard to timber for the frame, My local DIY depot supplies some very nice warp-free 10mm thick pine in various widths and lengths - I'm fairly sure it will be stiff enough for the keel pieces (plan shows 1/2" or 12.5mm pine), although I was surprised they did not have 12mm - I'm sure they used to stock it. Anyway, the 10mm keel has doublers in a couple of places, and the 9.5mm diameter tube will be sandwiched nicely between these where appropriate as well as doublers adding stiffness wherever else necessary according to the plan.
I also found some 5ply 9mm ply board in 600x1220 sheets at a reasonable price - indoor grade, but as all the interior will be sealed with at least 2 coats polyurethane varnish, nothing should de-laminate, so I'm now looking to use this for bulkheads, but with a view to cutting out unnecessary material....OR...
...still considering using strips to 'build-up' bulkheads - while rooting around in my garage, I found the left-overs of a sheet of 12mm Gaboon ply left over from about 15 years ago, so it's about time I found a use for it. It's not wide enough to cut out all the bulkheads directly, but if I cut this into 25 or 30mm wide strips on my band saw, I can glue up some of the bulkheads as described in the previous post. The extra thickness won't matter as it is very light material, and it will give a greater gluing area for the ply skins. It has 9 laminations so is quite strong/stiff. And it effectively costs nothing!๐๐
The chine and gunwale stringers I'm still planning to laminate from 3/8 x 1/8 bass strips cut from sheet and spliced to make the necessary length, but I'm still not 100% convinced this will be strong enough - any thoughts regarding this would be appreciated. Other 1/4 sq stringers can also be cut from 1/4" bass sheet, again splicing to obtain the required lengths.
Keeping the initial build costs down as above should allow me to splash out on the plywood skins when the time comes. The plan prefers 2mm ply, but as this 'odd' size is almost twice the price of the 1.5mm, I'll stick with the thinner grade - the plan does suggest fitting extra 1/4sq stringers halfway between the chines to support the thinner ply panels. The last time I ordered 1.5mm ply (for the Springer tug and Lesro Sprite) I used Hoop ply, much cheaper than Birch and seemingly just as strong, so I'll go with this again, but it's a wee-ways off yet.
I welcome, and look forward to, any feedback regarding all the above.
Considering all the research I've done, I now have a fairly good idea where I can get what I need, so I'm at this point in time about 80% sure I will stick to building Vivacity before the Beachcomber, although I already see the Beachcomber as a very different kind of model, much more 'performance' orientated - more on that another time.
All that remains is to wait for a reply regarding 18" prop tube availability etc AND, of course, feedback from you all - it makes some sense now, but if any of you might do things a bit differently, I'd like to know, just in case I've missed something obvious..๐ค..it wouldn't be the first time๐!
Looking forward to your comments,
rgds Nick
PS I've attached again a pdf of the plan so as to remind myself this is what I'm letting myself in for!?!๐ค