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    Italian "Pronto Intervento"
    This little boat was found under a pile of junk in an old cluttered bicycle shop which sold toys on the side. Was looking for a part for my sons cycle in the early 80's when it was found. One of the two relatively ancient (mid 80's) brothers who owned the place said they had had it for years and would sell it for R5. It was made in Italy of polystyrene as a kids toy - obviously there was a motorised version at one time and it had a rubber prop on a fixed shaft plus the top lifted off with three screws. It was quickly converted using a small (180flat) motor, small Graupner rudder, Billings 2mm shaft with the rubber prop and oiler tube, 4 AA batteries and 27mhz Futaba RC for a motorcycle . It was used for years at the Johannesburg MBC as a have a go boat for kids. Very slow so quite safe with them . Fast forward 20 years whilst living in the UK - strip it down - Speed 300 motor running on 6 x 2/3AA Nimh cells through the same RC setup. Now frighteningly fast for its small size (+-13") it leaps up on the plane almost instantly and has to be run in very smooth water (picture taken in its old mode). The few kids at the club water in the New Forest all want to have a go - sadly have to decline as its much too much for them to handle........ Its name on the stern is Guesta Festa which is Italian slang for Party Pooper (from a friend) - as its a model of an Italian 'Customs Interception Launch'............
    Despatch No 9
    This is a Lindberg Diesel Tug - originally from Pyro - built in the early 1980's . A little modified from original - brass railings - cabin roof altered - external piping on funnel - winch from lighter flint wheel etc lifts off for shaft oiler - cover plate lifts off for rudder access etc. Its very seaworthy - being able to run in what could be termed hurricane weather at scale size. Very watertight . Runs on 5 cell AA Nicads for over an hour. Motor is a 7 pole out of a early PC printer. Tam-tech 27mhz RC - uses the original kit prop - reinforced with paper washing up type towel. (Once ran it in our flooded back garden in Southbourne as it only requires a couple of inches of water). Overpowered - as tugs should be - runs at hull speed limit but can push/pull boats many times its own size..........
    Model Products - Patrol Boat
    Built from a Rhodesian kit - kit produced for Model Products by a friend Mervyn Ward in Salisbury. Made from 'mugongo' a very light weight pale yellow somewhat dry dusty wood - meant as a replacement for balsa because of sanctions (looks like Jelutong but very much lighter in weight) Uses a 480 type Overland BB motor and a Graupner P30 prop with 4mm commercial propshaft. Much modified over the years - built in the 80's . Has sailed in France (Normandy,Brittany) UK (New Forest , Beale Park and a few other places)and many waters in SA. Currently under repair . Hull etc cribbed from Les Rowells Aerokits Patrol Boat but slightly different superstructure which lifts off entirely
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    This is my latest acquisition - unfortunately just started its journey and got as far as my sister near Southampton. Still many miles to go before it gets home. When that occurs will be doing a refurbishment.......... As a blog no doubt
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    Bought from Maplins on a Christmas sale for a tenner including a reasonable 2 ch 27mhz radio (it sticks to one frequency) - cost was actually less than a spare set of batteries. Probably the fastest boat I have owned and probably the fastest at my old club. It has a strange underwater section - U shaped with deep triangular sections enclosing the U and a flexible 28mm 2 blade propeller - nick named Darth Vader by our newsletter/site editor the name stuck.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Gumboot Clogaroo
    2 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Nice one Garth- but unless you put those traps in the water - not much chance of a lobster......
    Was that from a Midwest Kit or scratchbuilt ?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Servo and Wiring and Main Deck
    4 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi MIR - Boat is coming along well - frustrating but its the normal sort of problems that you run across starting out - sometimes its also hard to remember the way you solved a problem before for an experienced modeller. Someone said the only way to gain experience is by making mistakes - you don't usually make them again . That applies to all of us - including very experienced modellers like Lord High Admiral Doug (shades of HMS Pinafore Doug - pardon the insubordination)

    Forgot to add in the previous alignment discussion - there was another way suggested long ago in a now defunct magazine - with your motor loosely in situ joined to the propshaft connect it to a single battery (1.2 to 1.5v) - 7.2 & 6v motors will run very slowly - you move the motor around on the mount (or move the mount) until it runs at its fastest no load speed on that voltage - (you can usually estimate that by the sound it makes by running it prior to placing in situ) then set the motor in that position A dab of silicone /glue would do . Always another way for everything.........

    And by the way you can use a Z bend on one end of a servo rod cut to size - tiny adjustments being made on the threaded end. Threaded end of purchased servo rods usually come with the plastic connector here in SA. (Expensive so tend to make my own). There is also a better system called a servo saver which has a spring incorporated to reduce the risk of overloading the servo - used instead of the Z bend.

    Your problem with the radio was probably caused by the fact they all tend to be made in China - and the Chingelese instructions are never clear......... That's why its useful to belong to a club or this forum where you can seek advice

    One thing further - Nimh batteries can tend to get very hot when charging - had a set that would almost burn you - lasted 5 years though. Used virtually every weekend once or twice. So do Ni Cads which also tend to explode if seriously overcharged or charged too fast . Lead acids can swell and leak - and its almost suicidal to charge Lipo's in situ. They need to be in a fireproof container . So I would tend to rather remove the batteries for charging if you can do so.
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    πŸ“ Promotion
    4 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Congratulations on your promotion Nerys - you are an inspiration to all of us.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Love it JB - must have been expensive .........
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    πŸ“ First Time Plank on Frame ?
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Have a few plans for small sailboats from Vic Smeed and others . Sail well and can be RC'd . Building triplet Elvers for my descendants - but small and vane steered - not quite what you wanted.
    If interested PM me and lets see what can be dug out. All in digital form so easily sent and printed tiled on an A4 size printer. Assemble with Pritt - or you can be extravagant and use your local print shop - from what I remember in UK they tend to be expensive.........
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi HW ,
    Take it you mean they are simply clamped down with nothing attached.
    If that's the case it would seem you definitely have a pair of duff motors .
    Think you need to be having a few serious words with mtronics
    You might also think about getting a pair of 385 motors instead - much more torque with 5 poles - and unless its a speed boat work much better - but beware like the 400s there are some serious amp eating versions around - ask your supplier for advice and get a pair that will happily run on 7.2v.- ones rescued from better halves old hair dryers prefer 19 to 24v.........
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi HWman- Martin has led to another chain of thought - are the motors connected up to your propshafts ? - if so another silly question - are they filled with grease or an oil mix?

    Very first RC boat motor ran very hot - struggled for power - had taken advice from a magazine and filled the tube with Lithium wheel bearing grease. Joined a club and the first bit of advice was clean it out - use an oil mix with a spot of grease to thicken very slightly . Problem solved , boat planed easily - motor ran cool ...........
    Now use a touch of Silicone grease with two stroke oil ( left over from Seagull days)
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi Doug - hate to argue but have had a couple that started to make a lot of very nasty noises and produced an alarming amount of smoke and the beautiful aroma of cooking motor - however agree with you that these are more likely to be Friday motors that someone wound the wrong way.................
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Theres a little red square below your Avatar in each posting - someone wanting to contact you via a PM uses that - and vica versa of course.

    Changed a lot since single channel radios and rubber powered escapements too - Only computer literate as previous life required it ..........

    Sister in UK takes care of the postage - so dont fret.

    Can give you an idea how to make the slide when measured & scanned - original only lightweight metal - as I said be a few days - now 1.30am - must go
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    5 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi David,
    You are welcome to the parts for the Fretsaw - Bench saw items in the 2nd pic I only have the ones for myself unfortunately - and will need to repair one piece anyway - but it might be a while till we find transport. Got a bargain when I bought the Fretsaw & 3 port VS Controller at boot sale near Lymington - also a big load of veneers for next to nothing from the same person - happy to pass it on . You can make a slide for yourself using a piece of hard timber and a bit of ply - will strip & measure the slide pieces for you . Send via a PM later this week - got to clear a bit of work first.

    Been making models for close on 67 years - so have had a fair few models over that time including the ones with wings......... Which mostly tended to come home in a bin bag - so much prefer waterborne ones.......
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Sounds like you have a problematic set of motors - perhaps you should try a query to mtronics - if you advise them you are also seeking help on the MB Forum you might get a response quicker !!

    Sorry the increased voltage did not work - perhaps oiling the bearings and running in on a lower voltage as Doug suggests might help.

    You could test them on lower voltages and see if they still get really hot - if they do so at 4 1/2 volts for instance there must be something fundamentally wrong with them. Are they getting hot enough to distort plastic or similar to a baked potato just out of the oven ? Any smell of burning ?

    One silly question - are the motors marked for positive & negative - often just a red dot for positive next to the connection. Come across some motors in the past that really did not like polarity reversed.
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi David .
    searched through the bits & pieces - Jigsaw is actually MB 490 like yours - round one is the Unimat attachment - need to check before I speak. Have some spares for that but sadly not for the table saw . Plastic safety shield is broken on the table saw - only noticed now - (hopefully with a bit of luck can adapt an old disposable lighter fairly easily) as is the width gizmo (see photo) . Take it what you were looking for is the slide piece in the picture - regrettably only have that one for myself.
    As regards the Jigsaw spares - previous owner used it commercially and bought a lot of spares - I can let you have whats shown in the picture - 2 square inserts plus 1 short , one long blade holders and the allen key.
    There is a slight possibility that someone might be going over to the UK in the next month or two- usually easy to find someone doing so - but this pandemic is a huge problem travel wise. Total waste of time using the post and with courier cost would be cheaper to buy another jigsaw.............

    As to the boats - currently on the stocks are 3 Small Elver vane steered Yachts, a 16" version of a Fairey Huntress , a Billings 100 series Trawler , and a pair of Q3 tug kits - all for grandsons & other family members - a 23"Huntsman for a friend plus a 19"Huntress for myself , and a pair of Cabin Cruisers 7" & 10" respectively started in Lockdown . Plastic Magic wise a Heller Smit London Tug and a Lindberg kit being converted to the SA Tug Alwyn Vintcent There are quite a few others lurking in the background too like a 80 % complete Billings Norden and a half completed Deans Marine mini Clyde Puffer ..............

    Unfortunately at 10 years past retirement age still having to run a small business with a Laser Cutter/Engraver in conjunction with better half . One good thing is that I am able to use it for making kits for the boats. Very much quicker than using the fretsaw - but the parts have to be drawn out first - not as easy as it sounds.........

    Have an extensive collection of paper/digital plans and articles which I'm always happy to share with other modellers and do so fairly often ........Also try and help with preserving model boat plans for posterity........

    Look forward to your Tina build - have a small Billings Cabin Cruiser also named Tina (long since out of production - one that was built for my son years ago - but it needs refurbishing)

    Use Red - everyone else does - only use real moniker on PM's - some people are odd - Martin forgot to add that .......
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi David - postage is not the problem on something that small - its more the problem of things tending to disappear en route. Be a real waste if it did - dug out a very rare spare set of transfers for Revell's Jaque Cousteau's Calypso and sent those off to someone in UK long before before lockdown - still no sign of them - still waiting for May MB Magazine - let alone all the current issues from August on..............
    As for the boats lets say I have eclectic taste and too many to list here . Working ones are all shown in my Harbour on this site and currently there are about 14 on the stocks in various stages of build - not all for me. Plus numerous unstarted kits and enough spare wood & running gear of all types to build at least another 20 . Roughly 35 of have been disposed of over the years - mostly given away - tend to only keep the ones that are really enjoyable for one reason or another.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Scratch built, Working Steam powered Drifter trawler LT100, to 1:24th scale.
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    What an incredible detailed build all round - love the mechanism
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Will have a look - not sure if I have a spare - broke the one guide trying to straighten it - problem would be getting it there if I have one - about 3000 miles away on the tip of Africa.
    Sister is probably coming over from UK in the New Year - could possibly bring it when she returns - but you probably need one before then.
    Postage is a waste - about 10% chance of it reaching you...........
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    6 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi Dave - much prefer the Minicraft tools to the Dremels - given one as a present - used it twice - gave it away.........
    Was lucky enough to be given an original Unimat that can be turned into a milling machine - also has a heavy duty fretsaw attachment - handles 1" thick pieces easily . Lovely old machine. Inherited by a friend who passed it on to me.
    Agree with you - belt & braces engineering of the Minicraft range makes for some great tools. Pity about the circular saw - cuts Balsa ok but that's better cut with a standard balsa cutter. Struggles with anything harder..........
    Stay Safe
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    πŸ“ Minicraft power tools
    7 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Also have Minicraft fretsaw - but it has a different fitting - round instead of rectangular . Must have been an earlier model - will need same thing for mine soon - came second hand with lots of spares plus a second large 3 place variable speed controller - nice to have two - but no inserts. Will have to try MDF - fortunately can cut that easily on the laser. Also have the simpler unit that uses the jigsaw held upside down - works just as well
    Found the circular saw a bit under-powered but the disc sander is terrific. The only thing that has gone wrong is one of the larger drills had the switch burn out - fortunately readily replaced from the bits that may be useful box. The drill press has been a really useful item - taking both the large and small drills. The drills have a great locking chucks and taking from 1.5 to 6.5 mm bits are the best . The only non minicraft tool used regularly is a mini orbital sander adapted for use with the Minicraft VS Controller
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    7 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Not found - only a pair of vision marine "400" (5 pole like 385's) - rated 4.8 to 12v - Hi Torque. Similar size to my mtronics ones - but obviously different. For the life of me cant remember what the boat ran on - have some 6v and 7.2 packs so not sure which.

    However found this data sheet for the 400s on the mtronics site
    Should be fine up to 12v - but there's a clue in the 12v stall current - 27 amps - these specs are for a normal length case and they say "new range"so yours are probably different
    None of my "hot" 400's have a stall current that high
    One planed my 19 1/2"police boat avatar drawing less than 10amps - but it did blow a 10amp fuse when the prop locked with weed - stall current turned out to be 14amps .
    Try using a higher voltage - be interesting to see what happens- supposedly draw less amps with a higher voltage - might help with the heating
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    πŸ“ Hot motors
    7 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Also have a pair - shorter than normal 400. Went on about watercooling and lower pitch prop

    So Whoops - pardon me - now seen you said no load - only thing could be they are not meant for 7.2v - have you tried them on 6v - not sure what Im using - not run that boat for over a year . Might have yet another pair loose - if so will try those and see what they do on 7.2v

    Lot of the Graupner full size 400s are meant for 6v - but seem to take 7.2v ok - they did have a 7.2v rated one too - much more powerful than the 6v ones - George Turner used to run those on 8.4v in his fast models
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    πŸ’¬ Re: AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,-SEALEGS
    9 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Cheeky B . Could have had him for a few traffic violations . Description of vehicle on the docket would have been interesting - imagine the beak saying "what sort of vehicle ?"

    Not much of a surfing beach then - is it always that flat ? Being on the tip of Africa the waves roll up here all the way from Antarctica ........ Not for nothing this place has two names - Cape of Good Hope - and Cape of Storms. Proved to live up to the latter this Winter - were told to batten down the hatches on a constant basis.......
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    πŸ’¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    9 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi JB - you do realise that crepe paper is not waterproof I hope - take it you varnished it - chances of a bit of water getting on it are quite high - at the least will leave white spots or at the worst a lot of blue stain in your good looking cabin.............
    Blue hanky would work as well - they are usually very fine cotton weave . No danger of colour run either .
    Once again probably teaching my grandmother.............
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Drawing coming along
    9 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Looking good Ron - look forward to the build.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Shaft alignment and electroniscs
    10 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    The boat is coming along well - glad to see you are taking your time and not expecting it to be finished overnight. doing a great job !
    And some very wise words coming from a so called "beginner" ( suspect you must have built other things before !) - single most important thing on any model boat is motor /shaft alignment (even if you are using Huco type couplings ) - full size boats too come to that. If you have a lathe an alignment tool is simple to make - with the right length piece of brass rod - gap to suit your coupling - (lucky to have lots of old round pin brass plugs - dismantled those and have lots of ideal size) All you need is one end drilled to suit the shaft and tother to suit the motor. With centre drills piece of cake.......If you don't possess a lathe sure a member of your club will be able to make you one easily. First one was made for me by a friend from hex brass .
    Sad that Graupner stopped making a lot of their nice items - amongst them the very useful gearboxes and shafts - included with those was a very nice setup for direct drive off a 380/400 motor - George Turner used those on all his fast models - only complaint was the plastic oiler fitting - so usually soldered a piece of brass tube on instead........ I bought all Westbourne's stock of them and any others found........Sadly only have a few left.
    They made things so simple ..............
    This ones going in a 16" model of a Fairey Huntress
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    πŸ’¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    11 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Getting a bit flashy then JB - excuse the pun - -are getting there - came across the 1/12 coke bottles , various cans and only one beer bottle - funny cant remember drinking the rest....... Would look good aboard - pity we live so far apart .
    Needed a blue flashing LED for the Police Launch - but only red or white available here. Bought a so called bright white - turned out to be one of those colour changing ones.
    Have plenty of the little flashing LED candles - used for a few of our laser products - but of course cant find a white one now..........
    Grandsons will have to have multi coloured flashing lamps in the lighthouses they are being given as part of their birthday presents. Dont suppose they will mind.........
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Leak fixed and a little fun!!
    12 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Wow Cash - last time I saw a boat leap onto the plane was a friends full size 18' T craft fitted with a large Dodge V8 motor..........
    The handling is great too - definitely a keeper
    Congratulations on a job well done
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    πŸ“ SEA COMANDER RE-FURB.
    12 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi Colin,
    If you can get 2mm Perspex or acrylic sheet for laser cutting (NOT the same) that's what you should use - Plastic shops usually have a bin full of offcuts - like B&Q do with MDF. Most of the specialist shops I found in UK were very helpful when you explained why you only needed a small quantity - even over the phone. Perhaps they know you will recommend them to other modelers & friends.
    3mm is very much more difficult to cut - needs a lot more power on the laser - and does not bend well - when you heat & bend it forms bubbles in the material - don't ask how I found out................
    As a last resort you could ask SLEC to cut them for you.
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    πŸ“ Motivation
    15 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Martin - that's got to be the best excuse I have heard since "The dog ate my homework !"
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rocket
    17 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Are you sure that's not the real thing - absolutely stunning - incredible workmanship.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: HARTLEY FLARELINE, NEW PROJECT
    18 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Don't forget the cooler bag for the beer JB - and the sami's
    Like your idea on the guages - Do you just paint the interior of the cut out to look like a rim - cant quite make it out - seen it done with thin slices of plastic tube as rims - gauges printed on paper & stuck on perspex buttons inlet into the board - but not with the backlight - that would have made a big difference. Given me ideas as there are a few buttons lying around from commercial jobs.........
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    19 days ago by redpmg ( Captain)
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    Hi Doug - sometimes as the saying goes - Caution :- Engage mind before opening mouth - is true for all of us . Hard to take back what ones said when its in writing - even if meaning is being read into it which was never intended.........
    Know Im guilty of it often - especially as I get older - we just have to be more careful with words like we are with other things - especially now we know we are not bullet proof........
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