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    ๐Ÿ“ Help Please Graupner 2351 Navy Sound Module
    7 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Guten Morgen Bruce,
    Found the manual (in German) on RC Groups site.
    First off-
    Lead #2 is labelled 'Blitzerausgang' = Flasher output.
    Seems to be intended for a flashing light, i.e. police or emergency service boat.
    Probably a mini light bulb back then as LEDs were still exotica and expensive.
    It has nothing to do with RPM variation of the diesel sound. So not needed unless you want to go flashing๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ™ˆ
    Unfortunately there is absolutely no reference to Lead 2 in the manual!๐Ÿค”

    "Should the sound of the RPM speed up when you advance the throttle?"
    Yes๐Ÿ˜‰ The module takes it's input for this directly from the terminals of the motor, i.e. voltage being applied via the ESC. So you need a mating connector for lead 3 wired to the motor - brushed only I suspect. Polarity is not important - logical since the motor can run both forward and backward.๐Ÿ˜‰

    "adjustment switches" these are actually adjustment potentiometers, variable resistors (known as pots).
    Diesel Drehzahl (RPM) - is used to set the diesel sound RPM to your taste when the motor is running full chat on a bench test.
    Diesel Lautstarke (volume) - is used to set the max volume of the diesel sound.
    Gesamt-lautstarke (total volume) - is used to set the total output volume , i.e. when all available sounds (diesel, horn, ship's bell, wave slap๐Ÿค”) are in use.
    NOTE: there are warnings about setting this too high as it risks damage to loudspeaker and/or the module amplifier. More about that later.
    For now; you need a minimum 4Watt loudspeaker.

    Have looked at the module specs ... but more tomorrow as it's now 2am here and I'm starting to nod off๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ’ค๐Ÿ’ค
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž



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    ๐Ÿ“ Dutch sailing barge
    10 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Simply exquisite Andy๐Ÿ‘ A 'proper job'.
    Our dear departed Fleet Admiral Nerys would have been ecstatic!
    Looking forward to the Sea Trials๐Ÿค“
    KUTGW
    Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ How do you create the coiled ropes?
    10 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice one Chug๐Ÿ‘
    As my German mates would say 'Klein aber fein' (small but fine)

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    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Oh hell. Another damn sailing ship question.โ˜น๏ธ
    I'm 'all at sea' again๐Ÿค”
    Late 19th century??
    Do I really look that old?
    Answers please in a sealed envelope together with a pony (a 20 pound note for the uninitiated๐Ÿ˜‰) to ... PM me for PayPal info๐Ÿ˜
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you create the coiled ropes?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Alessandro,
    Sorry if I appear pedantic BUT-
    Those are not concentric circles but spirals.
    Concentric circles do not intersect with each other.
    They simply have the same central point, or axis, but different radii.
    They are not formed from a continuous line as a spiral is.
    Translator cock up?
    Ciao, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ No motor coupling
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks Austin๐Ÿ‘
    At least one like minded compatriot๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ No motor coupling
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Steve / Mirangi,
    As you may have gathered from my previous to Roy (re straightening macaroni๐Ÿ˜‹) I regard your enquiry and this thread as somewhat frivolous.

    To your original 'query'
    "Has anyone tried running a boat by using a solid connection between the motor and the shaft and using an anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning."
    Later response from you to various answers -
    "Great answers and I understand where you are coming from but my original question was based on mounting the motor directly to the shaft, using the shaft to support the motor and using a spring loaded device to stop the motor from rotating. I.e the weight of the motor โ€œhangsโ€ from the shaft. Wear of the shaft bearing may be an issue hence the reason I asked if anyone has tried this.
    Look forward to continuing this conversation."

    Why oh why oh why would you want to even try that?
    Where is the fundamental difference between "using an anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning." and simply conventionally fixing the motor down in the hull?
    What advantage should it bring? The disadvantages are obvious.
    Your shaft bearing and the shaft itself will be worn down at a rate of knots and battery current will be wasted in the process.
    The arrangement and construction of the 'anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning.' would probably be much more complicated and tricky than simply doing the job right in the first place.
    You've received many weird and wonderful suggestions for various couplings, here's my recipe for a setup that works every time.
    Sorry folks, but for me any resort to even a single UJ or (God forbid) multiple UJ type couplings (dog-bones, extended dog-bones and the like) means the basic construction alignment was somehow screwed up and power loss increased, and thus duration on the wet stuff reduced.

    1. Use a rigid coupling between motor shaft and prop shaft to align motor to the shaft.
    (I knock up mine to suit the model (motor and shaft diameters) on my Proxxon mini lathe.
    But there are also many such adaptors commercially available for non-lathe owners.
    2. Set the motor to run at approx half speed, while monitoring the current drawn.
    Ammeter inserted between ESC and motor (brushed) or between drive battery and ESC for brushless.
    3. Twiddle the motor gently around until you reach the position where the current drawn is at minimum. This is then the position of perfect alignment and maximum power transfer to the propshaft. NOTE the current value for reference for step 5.
    4. Shim the motor mount to this position. This is an iterative process which should be checked from time to time by checking the current drawn by the motor as above. 'Less is more!๐Ÿ˜‰'
    5. When all is correct, i.e. minimum current draw, apply a few blobs from a hot glue gun to hold the motor in place prior to permanent fixing with screws or bolts.
    6. Fit motor - shaft coupling; preferably the 'bellows' type (correct English description learned from Lew's post๐Ÿ‘) which provides strength as well as accepting very small misalignment and runs silently. See attached pic; as fitted to my brushless powered Sea Scout.

    Bon chance mon ami๐Ÿคž
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS When I look at the original query again I start to wonder if this thread is not just another 'wind up'. Would not be the first time such has happened here.๐Ÿ™„

    ๐Ÿ“ No motor coupling
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent idea Roy๐Ÿ‘
    I'll be trying that to straighten out my macaroni๐Ÿ˜‹
    Just have to buy a few dozen more motors for the test/correction jig.
    ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜†

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    ๐Ÿ“ Model Boat Show
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very well done Pete๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Looking forward to some pics / vids.
    Wish I wasn't so far awayโ˜น๏ธ
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Construction report "Pilot Cutter Britannia" 1 : 24
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Selber schuld Wolle๐Ÿ™„
    You did have to want to go and get married๐Ÿ˜
    You made your bed - now lie in it๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ™ˆ
    So weit so sehr gut mit Britannia๐Ÿ‘ Weiter so๐Ÿ˜‰
    Alles gute, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Exactly Dave๐Ÿ‘

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    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Alessandro,
    Your post 5133- yes I did read your post 5039.
    That is about a totally different function and has nothing to do with this topic; i.e. reading comments to QOtD questions before answering yourself.
    Going back to look at previous questions, as your post 5039 refers to, is not the subject here.

    BTW; apropos not being able to do that if you don't contribute to site (as you contend in your post 5039, I can only check if that is the case next February when my current contribution expires) ...
    You have been a Basic member of our site for some years now and with your numerous posts (some multiplicity of posts within a very short time frame could have been reduced by use of the 'Edit' function) have risen very quickly to the rank of Fleet Admiral and have apparently enjoyed the debates here and maybe also learned a thing or two and benefited from the experience and knowledge of our members as well as contributing your own expertise.๐Ÿ‘
    So don't you think it is maybe time to contribute a few shekels/lira to the upkeep of the site which you are so obviously enjoying so much?
    Or have you contributed but declined the addition of the corresponding medal to your avatar?
    (EDIT- Does anyone actually do that? I doubt it.)
    If you had you would be able to 'time travel' and answer any questions you may have missed.

    As a regular contributor factually/humorously๐Ÿ˜and financially๐Ÿค‘for many years -
    I have to say that I am somewhat dismayed to see that over half of our senior Flag Rank members are merely Basic Members, i.e. do not contribute to the continued existence of the site which they are so obviously enjoying so much and often post experiences of their travels etc which indicate that they are not short of a bob or two.
    And before all the pensioner members start an outcry - I AM ALSO A PENSIONER, since Feb. 2017.
    But I still manage an annual contribution. I pay a single annual contribution rather than a monthly subscription as doing that reduces the amount taken by the Paypal or credit card institution and thus more of my donation actually goes to the upkeep of our unique and beloved site.
    Also consider; the more we members contribute to the site we love the less we are likely to be plagued by intrusive advertising. We are not Google or Amazon and server hardware/space etc, etc must be paid for and we wish to remain independent, don't we?

    Cheers All, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    BTW: Alessandro looking at the number of posts you have so often made within a very short space of time, often 3 or 4 within minutes on the same thread, instead of using the Edit function, I guesstimate that your true point score and thus rank would be- 3980 and thus Captain.
    Not really earth shattering but just distorting the ranking/contribution picture.

    PS (Edit - this is how it works Alessandro)
    I've now erected my Asgard ZPM powered Naquada enhanced shield to deflect eventual phaser/photon/torpedo/drone attacks from basic members.
    I have THE GENE๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Roy,
    'I like to add logic to knowledge and really only challenge myself.'
    Again I heartily agree๐Ÿ‘On both counts. I've never played Bridge but, many years ago, Brag, Poker and Canasta.
    It wouldn't have been half as much fun (but perhaps more lucrative๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿค‘) if I knew what the other players were holding.
    Where immediate knowledge/recollection fails many QOtD questions can be figured out using simple logic, and/or analysis of the syntax AI uses. That this doesn't always work is witnessed by my four recent cock upsโ˜น๏ธ Mostly sailing related. Not exactly my strong suit๐Ÿค”
    Interestingly; many neurologists and human brain researchers are proponents of the theory that we remember absolutely everything that we have ever experienced/seen/heard. Including from before our actual birth! Each new experience creating new synapses in the brain. Like adding a new zig Terabyte hard-drive/stick to our PC. It's ALL in there somewhere๐Ÿ˜€
    Unfortunately with advancing age our file retrieval systems can go a bit wonky and return zilch or wrong answersโ˜น๏ธ So folks re brain and memory 'Use it or lose it!'๐Ÿ˜Š

    Cheers All, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Oh yes he could Roy. You don't even need to be logged in๐Ÿ˜‰
    It's a simple trick which I'm sure Alessandro has figured out.
    He's a clever laddie.
    Ciao, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ No motor coupling
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Bob,
    Re 'I would suggest this is bad practice and not a great idea at all IMHO.'
    Quite so, I heartily agree. Can't see why anyone would even think of doing that.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Wait for it Roy!
    Alessandro can still do it, and he's been told the answer๐Ÿ™„
    Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    12 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Garth / Ross,
    UK does use British Summer Time; Spring forward - Fall back one hour.
    But this is irrelevant to our QOtD as the question changes at 00:00 hours Zulu time = GMT.
    Which doesn't change.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    12 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Alessandro,
    I guess you'll never understand British humour๐Ÿ˜‰
    You take everything much too seriously.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    13 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Alessandro.
    Re "In fact, it might be if you know the meaning of zenith well. "
    FYI, from Uncle Wiki (AI)๐Ÿ™„
    Zenith developed from an Arabic phrase meaning "the way over one's head," and then traveled through Old Spanish, Medieval Latin, and Middle French before arriving in English. As long ago as the 1300s, English speakers used zenith to name the highest point in the celestial heavens, directly overhead.

    Ciao ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ 120 years of modelboat history
    13 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Gut gemacht Herman๐Ÿ‘Hut ab๐Ÿ˜Š
    Schade das ich hier in Mรผnchen viel zu weit weg bin๐Ÿ˜ญ
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    13 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thinks!๐Ÿค”My bwain 'urts๐Ÿค•
    Aren't the engines on most large commercial airliners and larger military aircraft (B52, C5, C130, A400 and the like) also mounted outside the fuselage = outboard?๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‰
    "Aeroplane is incorrect as it uses jet engines or propellers."
    Strictly speaking irrelevant in terms of the question which only concerns where the engine is mounted, not what actually provides the motive force/thrust. ๐Ÿ˜
    Anyone ever sat next to an engine in the cabin of an airliner??๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Thinks 2: Do Cruise Ships count as Boats? If so do their Azimuth-pods count as outboards?๐Ÿ˜‰

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    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "A real mess. "
    Yes Alessandro, I agree.
    Seems that Stephen has been tinkering again and inadvertently caused a Right Royal Screw Up!
    Sure he's corrected the 'Doppelgรคnge' appearances, and deleted the individual current position display, but the scoring is still screwed.
    It now seems to calculate participant positions purely on the basis of how many participants are above him, rather than grouping together all those with the same score on one position as before.

    Frankly this doesn't bother me unduly BUT ...
    What does irritate me me is he is wasting time, and server space, on such tinkering but has done nothing about requests for other improvements to the user interface on the grounds that 'It would cost too much memory space on the server' or some such.
    Requests made some years ago-
    1. That PC users could use the same full range of emoticons that Smartphone App users can.
    2. That PC users could use GIF emoticons.
    (I have several with nautical connotations in my archive๐Ÿ˜‚)
    3. That full text formatting can be used, e.g. Italic, bold or underline.
    All these requests were rejected on the grounds that it would require too much server memory space!
    Question: How much has server memory capability increased and associated hardware and rental cost decreased in the intervening years?
    (Yes guys I do contribute to these costs, for several years now. But I'm starting to reconsider when I see Temu ads appearing. A company which is currently under EU investigation for fraudulent marketing practices and substandard products.)
    Question: What arrangement has Stephen entered into with Temu or is this yet another example of their intrusive marketing techniques that the EU is currently investigating?

    Question: How much server space is now being used for functions that are now simply irritating us all? Or we don't really need?

    Stephen: In all my decades of Electronic Service / Development and ultimately System Engineering one of the very first tenets I learned was -
    IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT!!
    So why are you now tinkering with things on your site that have worked for years, and 'inadvertently' upsetting both the function and your members through such tinkering, rather than addressing the PC user interface improvements suggested over recent years?

    Best regards, Doug.
    PS As a former development Programmer I can appreciate that often changes to one section of a program can have unforeseen consequences somewhere else in the same App (as they call software these days๐Ÿ™„).
    But that is what trials, simulations and debugging are for! Nicht wahr?

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    AI told me I got it wrong today (15.11.25) with answer C.
    Told me B. was correct!
    What a load of old cobblers awls!!๐Ÿ˜ 

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    15 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Roy,
    Re: 'Perhaps all of you are unreal and just a functioning algorithm to keep me sane?'
    "I think - therefore I am."๐Ÿ˜Š Hmm! Or do I just THINK I am?๐Ÿค”

    So where does that leave you Roy?๐Ÿ˜
    Do we just think that you are - and therefore YOU ARE? Or ...?
    Or are we all just figments of some omnipresent programmer's imagination?

    Commensurate with several scientist's conviction(๐Ÿ™„) that our entire universe and existence is nothing more than a hologram. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜†

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    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    20 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I was going to write 'I defy anyone to get this question wrong'.
    But I see that some 16% of participants DID fall for two of the obviously nonsensical AI answers๐Ÿ™„
    Better luck next time chaps๐Ÿคž
    Cheers, Doug
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    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    20 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Alessandro, S Sailor and Roy,
    Why don't you simply go back to the date(s) you 'apparently' missed and answer the question(s)?
    Yes it can be done. How do you suppose that EdW managed to find that missing question for S Sailor?๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS Roy, I have been using CCleaner since it's inception about 20 years ago.
    It was called Crap Cleaner back then๐Ÿ˜ฎ. At about it's 3rd or 4th incarnation it suddenly became CCleaner. Not so keen on the latest version CCleaner 7 though๐Ÿค”

    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    25 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Another revision test๐Ÿ™„

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    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Another 'Stroll down Memory Lane'๐Ÿ˜‰

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    ๐Ÿ“ Billings Boat Karoline #412
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    If it aint broke ... ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    ๐Ÿ“ Question of the Day?
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    30.10.25
    Heavens abovemold๐Ÿ™„
    AI must think we are all children.
    (I guess, in a way, it might be right๐Ÿค”)

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    PS just noticed I've got rid of my last duff answer๐Ÿ˜€
    Until tomorrow?๐Ÿค”



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