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(Pleasure Craft) "Jessica" A Sea Scout renovation
Originally built by my Dad in the early sixties, fitted then with a Taycol Target and two very wet lead acid accumulators.
First renovation about 26 years ago for my daughter Jessica, fitted with a 6V Decaperm. Performance was VERY sedate. Perhaps fitting for a Broads Cruiser? The Taycol will now go into the Danish fish cutter I am currently renovating.
First two pics show her condition, incl. engine room, last year after about 25 years in the cellar.
Last three pictures show current condition after extensive renovation, see 'Build Blog Jessica' and refit. Video shows her Sea Trial end of May 2018 https://youtu.be/b0BWJ3duzDw
Now just cockpit fit to do and suitable crew to find. Can't 'select' Speed here as she wasn't equipped with GPS! But quick! Now she planes well so I guess I've turned her into a Sport Fishing Boat!? Rating I also can't select for myself, that's something for you guys to do! ;-) (Motor: Propdrive 2830 1000kV) (ESC: Quicrun 16BL30 Hobbywing) (5/10)
Update: Crew have reported for duty
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(Naval Ship) HMS Belfast
Performance not yet known, still in the fitting out dock. Power is actually 2 x 6V 4Ah. ESC will be Graupner Navy V30R. Maybe 2 for differential control to support rudder. I've left 'Number of Props' as Please Select cos Belfast has 4 and this ain't an option!!
Long term plans for smoke (borrowed from model railway kit!) lighting and gun control. Have already bought magicians 'Flash Paper' for main battery gun flashes. Ignition using old 'out of work' glow-plugs? Any ideas welcome :-)
Ship is Graupner Premium line. NOT IMPRESSED with quality of cast resin parts, lots of air bubble depressions :-/ Fair amount of rework / repaint necessary! (Motor: Speed 540 x 4) (ESC: Navy VR30 or Viper Marine. Trials on 40MHz then 2.4GHz DX6) (7/10)
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(Naval Ship) Graf Spee
It's a Graupner premium line ARTR! ;-/ Wanted some 'quick fun' while working on more complex constructions (HMS Hotspur H Class Destroyer 1936, 1:72 and Type IA U26 also 1936).
Didn't work out that way! On first test of motors and ESC I discovered that the shafts were so badly fitted that they were binding ;-( So back in dry dock for some hull surgery! That's why some inputs are missing above. Plan is to gradually add functions and special effects; lighting, gun controls, magicians Flash Paper for gun flashes. Maybe fired using my old glow-plugs!!??
Now I'm freshly retired I have more time for this ;-), as long as Gisela doesn't drag me off around the world too often ;-) I also have HMS Belfast from the same series (approx 1:128) also awaiting fitting out. More soon - don't hold your breath please ;-) in the pipeline is some 'Plastic Magic' with Ark Royal, Hood and Bismark all to 350 scale ca 70-80cm. Sorry been in Munich for over 30 years don't think in inches any more (except when buying mag wheels for the chariot!)
Cheers, and as my German boating friends say 'Immer ein Handbreite Wasser unterm Kiel!) = I wish you always a hand-widths water under your keel.
I sail on the lake in the Ostpark near me in Munich. Very convenient, right next to the Biergarten! (Motor: 600) (ESC: Graupner Navy V30R) (5/10)
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Gina 2 Billing Boats Fish Cutter - Restoration & Conversion
As promised (or threatened?) stage two of the hull work and thoughts on motorisation. The hull was sprayed with two coats of grey primer/filler. Pic1.
As usual this showed up the remaining imperfections (pics 2 & 3), but I'm not going to worry about them until I've got prop shaft tube and rudder stock sorted out and permanently fitted
After my attempts to make and thread a 3mm prop shaft went awry Martin (Westway the Mechanicals Master) stepped in and made me a decent one complete with a bushed stuffing tube Vielen Dank Meister
I did however manage to make a 4mm to 3mm reducer so that I could fit a Rabeosch 35mm prop as seen in pics 2 & 3.
The tube and shaft from Martin, arrived Saturday an' he only made it on Monday, have been dry fitted so that I can start setting up the gears, necessary to bring the drive down to the prop shaft fitted very low down in the hull, and motor mount. Pic 4.
Motorisation: (Remember folks - this kit was designed and built as a static model!) I want to use the old 1950s Taycol Target motor which my Dad originally fitted in the Sea Scout which I have renovated and upgraded to work forward and reverse with a standard ESC. See Build blog 'Sea Scout - Jessica'
Many of you will know that the Taycol motors were field coil motors, meaning that they have no permanent magnet around the rotor coil, and thus reversing the battery connections to the brushes had no effect on the direction of rotation, as this simply reversed the magnetic fields of both stator and rotor coils
To counteract this so that the motor could be used in both forward and reverse with a conventional brushed ESC I modified the motor slightly (separated the two coils) and built a simple converter board to connect it to the ESC. Again see the Sea Scout blog for the details of the conversion.
Basically; once the field coil and brush-gear (rotor coil) have been separated a simple diode bridge can be used to apply the output of the ESC to the motor. This enables the reversal of EITHER field OR rotor coil polarity, depending on how you connect the converter to the motor. Thus reversing the direction of rotation of the motor. Beneficial side effect is that the diodes also suppress the commutator sparking
In my case, with the Taycol Target, I also cleaned, flattened and polished the commutator. Thus significantly reducing the potential for spark generation in the first place!
A peculiarity of the Taycol motors is that they all use metal brushes, pressed phosphor bronze strip, so they need oiling!
DO NOT oil conventional brushed motors with carbon brushes unless the brushes are exchangeable or you want to have to buy a new motor!!!!!
Pics 5 & 6 show the proposed position of the Taycol in Gina 2 and pic 7 the prototype converter board I knocked up to test the motor, together with a Graupner Navy V30R Marine Brushed ESC. Details and results in the Sea Scout blog, including video of the sparks and oscilloscope pics of the drive waveforms before and after conversion! The latter showing the spark suppression effect of the converter Some samples attached - last 3 pics.
Pic 8 pic shows a more compact version of the converter, one of a few types I'm doing for Martin's various Taycols as a trade for the prop shaft he made for me and some useful material he sent. Thanks mate
Next steps will be
1) mounting the gears correctly on the shafts, requiring the manufacture of a 3/32" to 4mm adaptor and a 1/8" to 4mm adaptor, and keying them to the shafts - Hooray for mini milling machines
2) manufacturing bushed end plates to hold the gears in place,
3) fitting the motor mounting platform. I'll probably borrow from my experiences of real shipbuilding and do this as a suspended 'false floor', i.e. mounted on stiff springs to enable adjustments to optimise the gearing mesh!
On real naval ships this is done to improve shock resistance and to minimise engine noise / vibration conduction to the hull, thus significantly reducing the acoustic signature of the ship.
Not that I'm tooo worried about being torpedoed
Worth a try
Pic 9 shows the cleaned up and renovated Taycol Target motor.
Pic 10 shows the drive waveform complete with sparks before modification.
Pic 11 the cleaned 'forward' waveform with the converter board.
Pic 12 the cleaned 'reverse' waveform, no suppression capacitors needed More soon folks, Cheers, Doug
PS Along the way a new keel was fitted as can be seen in pics 1 to 3.
The original builder had 'buried' the keel in the hull planking!
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Aerokit Sea Scout 'Jessica' Renovation
Some of you may already know part of the story but, spurred on by Martin 'Westquay' and commanded by Admiral 'Dave' here goes
Dad built her originally when I was about 12, so ca 53-54 years ago. (As at 2017!)
She was 'No name' and free running with a Taycol Target, ahead only, and a 6V (very) wet cell lead acid. (Down to the garage again for a 'top up!)
Anyway, to cut a long story slightly sideways
MY daughter Jessica found the boat in the cellar when she was about 12!
And immediately wanted to run it on the local lake in Munich, as I was doing with my HMS Hotspur (but that's another shaggy model story!).
Sooooooo, she was cleaned up, resprayed pink (!) and white, Taycol Target field motor (no reverse) removed and replaced with a Decaperm 6V 7A with 2.75:1 gearbox. 6V 4000mAH SLA (weight half ton or so) Performance was rather sedate. Well it seemed like a good idea at the time!
RX, battery and rudder servo were shoehorned into the aft compartment, Jessica nameplates stuck on and off we went. Jessie was happy with the boat and I was happy with the Biergarten. Can't remember where 'the management' was
Jessie soon lost interest so I used the boat as a test bed for a while.
So now, 25-26 years on; prompted by Martin, I took the old lady down off the shelf (I TOLD her not climb up there!) and started inspecting the damage. Photos attached. (Yes I know 35Megs is not for boats but I didn't have nowt else then) The ancient DIN Audio socket was for charging the RX bat, double throw switch on starboard quarter. The big 'ole was for the telescopic antenna borrowed from an old radio. Needs must when ...
The funny looking 'thing' hanging out the transom is a dummy exhaust hiding the bolt holding the antenna bracket inside!
Have also started dismantling and renovating the Taycol, which I want to put back in with a reversing circuit and a 2S or maybe 4S LiPo. That was day before yesterday. Yesterday I took out the junk (siren, water pump, servos & micro switches to operate them and the running lights) and wiped the dust off - last two photos, incl. THE JUNK.
Stripped of all the junk & Decaperm she weighs 1214gm (about 2lb 11oz).
Also tested (cautiously!) the Taycol with a regulated / current limiting PSU. She rattled and protested but ran Now being dismantled, cleaned up and brush gear refurbished. Might also fit proper bearings!
Next step: clean up the old gal, check for leaks and load capacity.
I will probably use the 4S LiPo ca 310gm, the SLA was 660gm, so lots of spare capacity, or maybe I can get her nose out of the water for once
More soon Cheers from Munich
PS to Dave and Martin: NO! I don't propose to go full authentic nostalgia with a wet cell accu
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Sorry Alessandro, Re 'I wanted to return to my question.' But what was your question?
Also can you explain what exactly you are trying to do and why you are wasting an unnecessary relay on the right in your wiring diagrams? Also you are wasting the NO contact in the one left in the diagram. Why the heck do you need 6 contacts? And why 20A?
BTW: the relay coil connections do not count to the number of relay contacts!
To switch batteries, or any other sources or loads, you should only need a single relay of single pole double throw type. Also make sure it is a 'Break before make' type, in order to avoid your fear of connecting the positive terminals of both batteries together.
To whit "What I'm not convinced by this scheme is the simultaneous mechanical action of the coils, especially because the batteries have different potentials and for a few moments I run the risk of them being closed in parallel. In that case, current would flow between them, with harmful effects."
Re; "most importantly, the coil energizes at 6 volts and can handle 40 amps."
I assume a translation problem here - the relay coil is unlikely to need more than 1A and has nothing to do with the contact rating, i.e. the maximum load current that the relay can reliably transfer without burning the contacts.
BTW: You WILL need some diodes!
Simple signal type diodes (max 1A) across the relay coils to suppress the back EMF pulse created when the relay coil switches off, which otherwise can destroy the output transistor of the switching device.
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Hi Chris,
Glad to help. Bin round that barbecue myself several years ago๐
Part 1 is relevant here. Use the BEC option.
BUT! Heed the warning about not connecting the battery to the ESC and switching on before the ESC is plugged into the Program Card. Otherwise the Card will not recognise the ESC.
Tried to post the Instructions but the site wouldn't accept itโน๏ธ
You can find it at the link below.
The ESC works fine in my Sea Scout which I inadvertently transformed from a River Cruiser into a Sport Fisherman/Offshore Power Boat, using a 1000kV brushless and 3S Lipo๐ฎ
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Hi Pat,
Don't know of any Battlecruiser named Vanguard!?
There were however three Battleships of that name.
* HMS Vanguard (1869) was an Audacious-class ironclad battleship launched in 1869 and sunk in a collision with HMS Iron Duke in 1875.
* HMS Vanguard (1909) was a St Vincent-class battleship launched in 1909 and sunk in an explosion in 1917.
* HMS Vanguard (23) was a unique battleship, the only one of her class. She was launched in 1944 and broken up in 1960.
Did you mean Britain's last Battleship? A fast battleship, pennant 23, built during the Second World War and commissioned after the war ended?
After several years searching I finally tracked down a Hasegawa kit of Vanguard 23 in the US of A๐, company called 'Old model kits' I believe. Came complete with motor even!
Scale 1:450 56.5cm LoA, 7.1cm beam.
Don't know of any other kit of this ship ever produced. She's a very rare Lady!
Tried to post photos of the original and the kit but site doesn't want to accept photos for some reasonโน๏ธ
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Hi Chris,
The so called 'updated' version of the 16BL30 is externally absolutely identical to mine, which I purchased eight to ten years ago. WP simply means Waterproof, which it in fact always was. G2 presumably Generation 2, so they've tinkered about inside, maybe new FETs or control chip. Who knows?
Just as the 'original', i.e. mine, it has no Programming Port like it's big brothers BL60 etc do.
Quite simply because being a 'Mini ESC' there is no room for it!๐
So what to do?๐ค
Easy peasy, they use the signal cable from the RX๐
If you look at the end of the LED programming Card there are two sockets. See pic 2.
One for the signal cable and one for an external battery. External battery not needed with the 16BL30 as it has a 6V 1a BEC.
Refer to attached Section 2 of the LED Programming Card manual.
Para 2.1, bullet 1 is relevant to the BL30.
For future reference I also attach a chart of which Programming Card works with which Hobbywing ESC. Courtesy of Krick, my local supplier here in Germany.
Rest assured, I would never have bought a stock of these ESCs if I knew I had to use the (**''@@๐ฅ expletives beeped out๐) bleep and beep system to program it!!
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Cheers, Doug๐
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Well done Wolle, enjoy, I'm sure you will๐
Several years ago, at the start of her career, Gisela and I had the immense pleasure of stumbling into a free open air concert of hers here in Munich.
Apart from the rain โน๏ธ a most enjoyable evening.
Grรผร, Doug๐
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Hi Bob,
I don't know the current draw of the motors you are using but ...
The from some members proposed servo and microswitch solution, albeit with caveat re current draw, can only work with relatively low motor currents. Microswitches are usually only rated for 1 or 2 Amps. There are higher current versions but they are much larger and maybe only 5 or 10A at most.
For higher currents the most simple and elegant solution would be an RC switch and a double pole/double throw relay, with contact rating in excess of the motor current draw.
Cheers, Doug๐
PS Precisely how the brushless motor/ESC would react to such treatment I don't know๐ค
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Hi Chris,
Re 'Apart from the 30amp Quicrun, ...'
I must beg to differ๐
The Quicrun 30A brushless ESC, type 16BL30, has been my go to brushless ESc for many years. I have a stock which I bought when Krick here in Germany had a special offer going๐
It is most easily programmed from the 'General' Programming card which I bought at the same time.
Cheers, Doug๐
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Hi Will,
Re "Too many projects, a lack of time, and needing to prioritise jobs in general is my enemy."
Like you like me!๐ค
My German mates have a solution, if not very productive๐
'So viel zu tun, so wenig Zeit. Ach, lassen wir es!'
Translates to -
So much to do, so little time. Aw heck, lets leave it!
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Staying in period-
Who said, and in what series-
1. "Stupid boy!"๐
2. "A pint! That's a whole arm full! I can't walk around with an empty arm!"๐ฎ
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Under my 'It might come in handy someday' inventory I have a 60 litre rubbish bag (that's trash sack for you unfortunate subjects of King DJT the First) full of expanded polystyrene or corn starch 'peanuts' salvaged from various deliveries. Haven't used any yet ... but you never know๐
Also from packaging; several slabs of 1" thick expanded polystyrene, some about 1' square.
Very useful for insulating plant pots on the terrace from subzero ground temperatures in winter.
Also for making simple lightweight boat stands and frames to hold batteries and other odds and ends in place inside the model๐
Recycling is King guys an' gals๐
Cheers, Doug๐
PS Some thirty years or so ago I read the following model boat builder's motto in 'Modell Werft'. (Model Shipyard).
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We never throw anything away which won't begin to stink in a week or two.๐
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Hi Garth, Using AI, Google or what ever is OK.
BUT ONLY AFTER you have given your answer to check the 'facts' .
Extract from my previous post-
"I DO use Google. BUT! Only to check my facts when I am given wrong by AI and vehemently protest when my answer proves correct and exposes an AI screw up. As is well documented below.
Anyone competing in a quiz and using Google (or similar) to find the answer is only deceiving himself, no one else."
BTW: Re If I stop, I'll get a ship load of emails to tell me to answer.
Don't understand this at all๐ค I have never seen such a mail demand.
Can you post a screen shot of an example?
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'Ye Gods and little fishes' finally a duff answer extinguished and one step up to joint 3rd at 93%๐With luck tomorrow (21.09) I can hike up another step.
Today's (19.09.) question was pretty easy, but even if you didn't know the answer 'vom Haus aus' as my German mates would say (or 'Off the bat' so to speak) it was pretty simple to work out using common (๐) sense logic. AI often tells you the answer in the offered options.๐
@ Pat;
I tend to agree๐100% day to day is unrealistic and borders on the superhuman.
When I look at the scoreboard I disregard the '30 correct, 100%' entries and bump everyone else one place higher.
I DO use Google. BUT! Only to check my facts when I am given wrong by AI and vehemently protest when my answer proves correct and exposes an AI screw up. As is well documented below.
Anyone competing in a quiz and using Google (or similar) to find the answer is only deceiving himself, no one else. By doing so he only degrades his integrity in the eyes of his peers.
Apropos University Challenge: "I've started so I'll finish"
G'night All,๐๐ด๐ด๐ค
PS I don't doubt I'll get another 3 foolscap page post from Alessandro defending his use of Google etc. As I think we've seen before.
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Ditto repeato๐
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And 'It Ain't 'arf Hot Mum'.๐
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Everything you never knew you needed to know about the Falkirk Wheel, in video.
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What a question for someone who spent nearly 40 years working on naval vessels of all classes from Patrol Boats to Aircraft Carriers๐๐
A 'No Brainer' - which is good for me coz I aint got no bwain no more๐ค
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(Only 11 more days now to the next hike up - to 97%. IF I get some more No Brainers like this.)
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We've had this one before as well.
Got it right this time๐
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So youโre in Kirkwall now Ron๐
Not far from Scapa Flow. I'm jealous!
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Deja vu ... Again๐
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Seemed kinda familiar to me 2๐
Caused a bit of an 'ash an ay' last time.
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Deja vu๐
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A magnificent and GINORMOUS๐ฎ fleet๐
Bravo Zulu that man.
Cheers, Doug๐
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Hi Ron,
I most certainly do remember David, 'Wells Boy', and the Romulus & Ramus saga. With a shudder!
We both went well out of our way to help him and were thanked with vile insults and abuse. A most objectionable character.
Ron, PLEASE do not let recent regrettable events stop you from posting photos and comments about your travels. Otherwise Brightwork will have won, and we don't want that do we. Post them in the 'Hobby chit chat' category, then those who are not interested need not open them.
I believe there are many members, me included๐, who WILL be interested.
Safe journey and KEEP US POSTED๐
All the best, Doug๐
PS Don't forget the single malt tasting, Slร inte mhath๐
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Off to Norway then are you Chug?๐
What bait do you use for Trolls?
Watch out for the Lemmings, or are they the bait๐ฎ
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Congrats Nick๐๐๐
Sheesh Pat 69?
I never got above 40, bad enough.
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Most of it Pat๐
But I wouldn't take up smoking again.
60 years of the weed is what is sapping my stamina now.
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Don't know about clean living Pat.
Spent 40 years zotting around the world climbing and crawling around alls sorts of ship and subs.
Evenings and weekends 'cigareets and whisky (rum in S America or Caipirinha, Pisco, Tequila in Brazil, Chile, Mexico respectively) and wild wild women was the motto.๐
Cheers, Doug๐
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๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (

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Alessandro,
Re "This way, those interested only in boats can visit only what interests them and ignore what doesn't. "
They can do that now, if only people would take note of the Categories (not Sections).
"the "Non-hobby chat" section is still within the forum. So the topics still overlap.
I meant a section outside the boat modeling forum. In other words, two different forum sections (on the same level as the builds and harbors)."
Outside the boat modelling forum means a totally different site to be created and maintained.
We don't need two more categories like Blogs and Harbour, they would still be within 'The Forum'. And as Nick rightly points out we already have a Non Hobby Chat category.
But like any human conversation you can never prevent a Thread within a category from meandering off topic. It's human nature.๐This discussion being a prime example.
Cheers, Doug๐
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"Old age"?? ๐๐คฃ
I've got 5 years on you, you young whippersnapper๐
Other members much more.
Cheers, Doug๐
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