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(Pleasure Craft) "Jessica" A Sea Scout renovation
Originally built by my Dad in the early sixties, fitted then with a Taycol Target and two very wet lead acid accumulators.
First renovation about 26 years ago for my daughter Jessica, fitted with a 6V Decaperm. Performance was VERY sedate. Perhaps fitting for a Broads Cruiser? The Taycol will now go into the Danish fish cutter I am currently renovating.
First two pics show her condition, incl. engine room, last year after about 25 years in the cellar.
Last three pictures show current condition after extensive renovation, see 'Build Blog Jessica' and refit. Video shows her Sea Trial end of May 2018 https://youtu.be/b0BWJ3duzDw
Now just cockpit fit to do and suitable crew to find. Can't 'select' Speed here as she wasn't equipped with GPS! But quick! Now she planes well so I guess I've turned her into a Sport Fishing Boat!? Rating I also can't select for myself, that's something for you guys to do! ;-) (Motor: Propdrive 2830 1000kV) (ESC: Quicrun 16BL30 Hobbywing) (5/10)
Update: Crew have reported for duty
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(Naval Ship) HMS Belfast
Performance not yet known, still in the fitting out dock. Power is actually 2 x 6V 4Ah. ESC will be Graupner Navy V30R. Maybe 2 for differential control to support rudder. I've left 'Number of Props' as Please Select cos Belfast has 4 and this ain't an option!!
Long term plans for smoke (borrowed from model railway kit!) lighting and gun control. Have already bought magicians 'Flash Paper' for main battery gun flashes. Ignition using old 'out of work' glow-plugs? Any ideas welcome :-)
Ship is Graupner Premium line. NOT IMPRESSED with quality of cast resin parts, lots of air bubble depressions :-/ Fair amount of rework / repaint necessary! (Motor: Speed 540 x 4) (ESC: Navy VR30 or Viper Marine. Trials on 40MHz then 2.4GHz DX6) (7/10)
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(Naval Ship) Graf Spee
It's a Graupner premium line ARTR! ;-/ Wanted some 'quick fun' while working on more complex constructions (HMS Hotspur H Class Destroyer 1936, 1:72 and Type IA U26 also 1936).
Didn't work out that way! On first test of motors and ESC I discovered that the shafts were so badly fitted that they were binding ;-( So back in dry dock for some hull surgery! That's why some inputs are missing above. Plan is to gradually add functions and special effects; lighting, gun controls, magicians Flash Paper for gun flashes. Maybe fired using my old glow-plugs!!??
Now I'm freshly retired I have more time for this ;-), as long as Gisela doesn't drag me off around the world too often ;-) I also have HMS Belfast from the same series (approx 1:128) also awaiting fitting out. More soon - don't hold your breath please ;-) in the pipeline is some 'Plastic Magic' with Ark Royal, Hood and Bismark all to 350 scale ca 70-80cm. Sorry been in Munich for over 30 years don't think in inches any more (except when buying mag wheels for the chariot!)
Cheers, and as my German boating friends say 'Immer ein Handbreite Wasser unterm Kiel!) = I wish you always a hand-widths water under your keel.
I sail on the lake in the Ostpark near me in Munich. Very convenient, right next to the Biergarten! (Motor: 600) (ESC: Graupner Navy V30R) (5/10)
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Gina 2 Billing Boats Fish Cutter - Restoration & Conversion
As promised (or threatened?) stage two of the hull work and thoughts on motorisation. The hull was sprayed with two coats of grey primer/filler. Pic1.
As usual this showed up the remaining imperfections (pics 2 & 3), but I'm not going to worry about them until I've got prop shaft tube and rudder stock sorted out and permanently fitted
After my attempts to make and thread a 3mm prop shaft went awry Martin (Westway the Mechanicals Master) stepped in and made me a decent one complete with a bushed stuffing tube Vielen Dank Meister
I did however manage to make a 4mm to 3mm reducer so that I could fit a Rabeosch 35mm prop as seen in pics 2 & 3.
The tube and shaft from Martin, arrived Saturday an' he only made it on Monday, have been dry fitted so that I can start setting up the gears, necessary to bring the drive down to the prop shaft fitted very low down in the hull, and motor mount. Pic 4.
Motorisation: (Remember folks - this kit was designed and built as a static model!) I want to use the old 1950s Taycol Target motor which my Dad originally fitted in the Sea Scout which I have renovated and upgraded to work forward and reverse with a standard ESC. See Build blog 'Sea Scout - Jessica'
Many of you will know that the Taycol motors were field coil motors, meaning that they have no permanent magnet around the rotor coil, and thus reversing the battery connections to the brushes had no effect on the direction of rotation, as this simply reversed the magnetic fields of both stator and rotor coils
To counteract this so that the motor could be used in both forward and reverse with a conventional brushed ESC I modified the motor slightly (separated the two coils) and built a simple converter board to connect it to the ESC. Again see the Sea Scout blog for the details of the conversion.
Basically; once the field coil and brush-gear (rotor coil) have been separated a simple diode bridge can be used to apply the output of the ESC to the motor. This enables the reversal of EITHER field OR rotor coil polarity, depending on how you connect the converter to the motor. Thus reversing the direction of rotation of the motor. Beneficial side effect is that the diodes also suppress the commutator sparking
In my case, with the Taycol Target, I also cleaned, flattened and polished the commutator. Thus significantly reducing the potential for spark generation in the first place!
A peculiarity of the Taycol motors is that they all use metal brushes, pressed phosphor bronze strip, so they need oiling!
DO NOT oil conventional brushed motors with carbon brushes unless the brushes are exchangeable or you want to have to buy a new motor!!!!!
Pics 5 & 6 show the proposed position of the Taycol in Gina 2 and pic 7 the prototype converter board I knocked up to test the motor, together with a Graupner Navy V30R Marine Brushed ESC. Details and results in the Sea Scout blog, including video of the sparks and oscilloscope pics of the drive waveforms before and after conversion! The latter showing the spark suppression effect of the converter Some samples attached - last 3 pics.
Pic 8 pic shows a more compact version of the converter, one of a few types I'm doing for Martin's various Taycols as a trade for the prop shaft he made for me and some useful material he sent. Thanks mate
Next steps will be
1) mounting the gears correctly on the shafts, requiring the manufacture of a 3/32" to 4mm adaptor and a 1/8" to 4mm adaptor, and keying them to the shafts - Hooray for mini milling machines
2) manufacturing bushed end plates to hold the gears in place,
3) fitting the motor mounting platform. I'll probably borrow from my experiences of real shipbuilding and do this as a suspended 'false floor', i.e. mounted on stiff springs to enable adjustments to optimise the gearing mesh!
On real naval ships this is done to improve shock resistance and to minimise engine noise / vibration conduction to the hull, thus significantly reducing the acoustic signature of the ship.
Not that I'm tooo worried about being torpedoed
Worth a try
Pic 9 shows the cleaned up and renovated Taycol Target motor.
Pic 10 shows the drive waveform complete with sparks before modification.
Pic 11 the cleaned 'forward' waveform with the converter board.
Pic 12 the cleaned 'reverse' waveform, no suppression capacitors needed More soon folks, Cheers, Doug
PS Along the way a new keel was fitted as can be seen in pics 1 to 3.
The original builder had 'buried' the keel in the hull planking!
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Aerokit Sea Scout 'Jessica' Renovation
Some of you may already know part of the story but, spurred on by Martin 'Westquay' and commanded by Admiral 'Dave' here goes
Dad built her originally when I was about 12, so ca 53-54 years ago. (As at 2017!)
She was 'No name' and free running with a Taycol Target, ahead only, and a 6V (very) wet cell lead acid. (Down to the garage again for a 'top up!)
Anyway, to cut a long story slightly sideways
MY daughter Jessica found the boat in the cellar when she was about 12!
And immediately wanted to run it on the local lake in Munich, as I was doing with my HMS Hotspur (but that's another shaggy model story!).
Sooooooo, she was cleaned up, resprayed pink (!) and white, Taycol Target field motor (no reverse) removed and replaced with a Decaperm 6V 7A with 2.75:1 gearbox. 6V 4000mAH SLA (weight half ton or so) Performance was rather sedate. Well it seemed like a good idea at the time!
RX, battery and rudder servo were shoehorned into the aft compartment, Jessica nameplates stuck on and off we went. Jessie was happy with the boat and I was happy with the Biergarten. Can't remember where 'the management' was
Jessie soon lost interest so I used the boat as a test bed for a while.
So now, 25-26 years on; prompted by Martin, I took the old lady down off the shelf (I TOLD her not climb up there!) and started inspecting the damage. Photos attached. (Yes I know 35Megs is not for boats but I didn't have nowt else then) The ancient DIN Audio socket was for charging the RX bat, double throw switch on starboard quarter. The big 'ole was for the telescopic antenna borrowed from an old radio. Needs must when ...
The funny looking 'thing' hanging out the transom is a dummy exhaust hiding the bolt holding the antenna bracket inside!
Have also started dismantling and renovating the Taycol, which I want to put back in with a reversing circuit and a 2S or maybe 4S LiPo. That was day before yesterday. Yesterday I took out the junk (siren, water pump, servos & micro switches to operate them and the running lights) and wiped the dust off - last two photos, incl. THE JUNK.
Stripped of all the junk & Decaperm she weighs 1214gm (about 2lb 11oz).
Also tested (cautiously!) the Taycol with a regulated / current limiting PSU. She rattled and protested but ran Now being dismantled, cleaned up and brush gear refurbished. Might also fit proper bearings!
Next step: clean up the old gal, check for leaks and load capacity.
I will probably use the 4S LiPo ca 310gm, the SLA was 660gm, so lots of spare capacity, or maybe I can get her nose out of the water for once
More soon Cheers from Munich
PS to Dave and Martin: NO! I don't propose to go full authentic nostalgia with a wet cell accu
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Just to restore the 'six pack' Phil ...
I'm a Brit (a Man of Kent), I just live in Germany๐
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Ye Gods and little fishes Gary,
These are even better than museum or yard model quality๐ฎ
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Would really like to see some video of her huffing and puffing๐
I envy you guys with the knowledge and GUTS to drive your models with true to original steam power. A mystic black art to me.
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She rides well Rogal, looks good๐Great build. Hat off๐
At that speed she'd sure keep the gunners on their toes!๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
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Thanks Bob๐
That was the final iteration with a 3S LiPo.
Scroll down a bit further and there are 3 more videos of initial trials with NIMH batteries, heavier๐ and competition from the local swans!
Sadly the videos and my sea trials Captains Report have disappeared from my Harbour๐
QUESTION TO STEPHEN (Fireboat)- Why is that?
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Hi Dutton,
I can also confirm that you definitely have a Sea Scout there๐
Attached are links to my Blog of the restoration of a Sea Scout built by my Dad in the early 60s. Also a link to my Harbour. 3rd link shows the boat on sea trials. You'll need to scroll down a bit!
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Roy,
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Curiously, rather than the FIFO system used by computer systems as we get older our brains start to work on a LIFO system๐ค
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Hi Stephen,
Re the submarine question of 4th December-
Despite various complaints please do not change anything.
Answer C was correct, see my post to Roy.
The question simply needs to be read and interpreted correctly.
Admittedly some knowledge of Naval Operational Requirements and Operational Areas helps๐
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'FIRE IN THE HOLD' or ...๐Phew๐ ???
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BTW Roy,
Re your post #5207 "Can't see the Americans abandoning Nuclear subs in favour of these."
You forget the Operational Requirement!
Sweden has no desire to play World Policeman like the USA.
Their main requirement is defence against the Russian Baltic Fleet not world cruises with a nuclear deterrent.
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Hi Roy,
Scarcely hundreds!
I make it around 130, although it is highly questionable how many of the Russian subs are actually operational.๐
Re Swedish subs-
Actually their diesel electric Gotland class (3 boats) has been happily operating Stirling Motors for nearly 30 years. The successor is already being built, 2 for Sweden and 3 for Poland, also using Stirling Motors from the Kockums yard.
Sure they are not going to win any speed competitions running on the Stirlings alone. But that's not the point.๐
When submerged the Gotlands can make 20 knots running the electric motors off batteries. Or tootle around at 5 to 6 knots on the Stirling motors driving a 75kW generator.
Alternately the Stirlings are used to recharge the batteries without the need to surface. Thus 'EXTENDING' the underwater endurance from a few days to a few weeks. And that is the key to this question!!
It asks about 'EXTENDED' operation NOT unlimited as per nuclear power.
Nuclear powered propulsion has never been designated AIP as it has never been dependent on air in the first place.
As for as acoustic stealth goes, the weak point of nuclear systems has always been the pumps in the essential cooling water circulation.
Sorry Roy but no cigar this time๐
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Good to hear from you Peter๐
Living a life of liquid luxury eh?
(Although my version would include some single malt๐)
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Hi Ron,
The plans and building instructions are still available from Krick, who took over the marine models when Robbe collapsed. They market them under the romarin brand name.
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Guten Morgen Bruce,
Found the manual (in German) on RC Groups site.
First off-
Lead #2 is labelled 'Blitzerausgang' = Flasher output.
Seems to be intended for a flashing light, i.e. police or emergency service boat.
Probably a mini light bulb back then as LEDs were still exotica and expensive.
It has nothing to do with RPM variation of the diesel sound. So not needed unless you want to go flashing๐ฎ๐
Unfortunately there is absolutely no reference to Lead 2 in the manual!๐ค
"Should the sound of the RPM speed up when you advance the throttle?"
Yes๐ The module takes it's input for this directly from the terminals of the motor, i.e. voltage being applied via the ESC. So you need a mating connector for lead 3 wired to the motor - brushed only I suspect. Polarity is not important - logical since the motor can run both forward and backward.๐
"adjustment switches" these are actually adjustment potentiometers, variable resistors (known as pots).
Diesel Drehzahl (RPM) - is used to set the diesel sound RPM to your taste when the motor is running full chat on a bench test.
Diesel Lautstarke (volume) - is used to set the max volume of the diesel sound.
Gesamt-lautstarke (total volume) - is used to set the total output volume , i.e. when all available sounds (diesel, horn, ship's bell, wave slap๐ค) are in use.
NOTE: there are warnings about setting this too high as it risks damage to loudspeaker and/or the module amplifier. More about that later.
For now; you need a minimum 4Watt loudspeaker.
Have looked at the module specs ... but more tomorrow as it's now 2am here and I'm starting to nod off๐ด๐ค๐ค
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Simply exquisite Andy๐ A 'proper job'.
Our dear departed Fleet Admiral Nerys would have been ecstatic!
Looking forward to the Sea Trials๐ค
KUTGW
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Nice one Chug๐
As my German mates would say 'Klein aber fein' (small but fine)
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Oh hell. Another damn sailing ship question.โน๏ธ
I'm 'all at sea' again๐ค
Late 19th century??
Do I really look that old?
Answers please in a sealed envelope together with a pony (a 20 pound note for the uninitiated๐) to ... PM me for PayPal info๐
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Alessandro,
Sorry if I appear pedantic BUT-
Those are not concentric circles but spirals.
Concentric circles do not intersect with each other.
They simply have the same central point, or axis, but different radii.
They are not formed from a continuous line as a spiral is.
Translator cock up?
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Thanks Austin๐
At least one like minded compatriot๐
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Hi Steve / Mirangi,
As you may have gathered from my previous to Roy (re straightening macaroni๐) I regard your enquiry and this thread as somewhat frivolous.
To your original 'query'
"Has anyone tried running a boat by using a solid connection between the motor and the shaft and using an anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning."
Later response from you to various answers -
"Great answers and I understand where you are coming from but my original question was based on mounting the motor directly to the shaft, using the shaft to support the motor and using a spring loaded device to stop the motor from rotating. I.e the weight of the motor โhangsโ from the shaft. Wear of the shaft bearing may be an issue hence the reason I asked if anyone has tried this.
Look forward to continuing this conversation."
Why oh why oh why would you want to even try that?
Where is the fundamental difference between "using an anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning." and simply conventionally fixing the motor down in the hull?
What advantage should it bring? The disadvantages are obvious.
Your shaft bearing and the shaft itself will be worn down at a rate of knots and battery current will be wasted in the process.
The arrangement and construction of the 'anti torque rotation arrangement to stop the motor from turning.' would probably be much more complicated and tricky than simply doing the job right in the first place.
You've received many weird and wonderful suggestions for various couplings, here's my recipe for a setup that works every time.
Sorry folks, but for me any resort to even a single UJ or (God forbid) multiple UJ type couplings (dog-bones, extended dog-bones and the like) means the basic construction alignment was somehow screwed up and power loss increased, and thus duration on the wet stuff reduced.
1. Use a rigid coupling between motor shaft and prop shaft to align motor to the shaft.
(I knock up mine to suit the model (motor and shaft diameters) on my Proxxon mini lathe.
But there are also many such adaptors commercially available for non-lathe owners.
2. Set the motor to run at approx half speed, while monitoring the current drawn.
Ammeter inserted between ESC and motor (brushed) or between drive battery and ESC for brushless.
3. Twiddle the motor gently around until you reach the position where the current drawn is at minimum. This is then the position of perfect alignment and maximum power transfer to the propshaft. NOTE the current value for reference for step 5.
4. Shim the motor mount to this position. This is an iterative process which should be checked from time to time by checking the current drawn by the motor as above. 'Less is more!๐'
5. When all is correct, i.e. minimum current draw, apply a few blobs from a hot glue gun to hold the motor in place prior to permanent fixing with screws or bolts.
6. Fit motor - shaft coupling; preferably the 'bellows' type (correct English description learned from Lew's post๐) which provides strength as well as accepting very small misalignment and runs silently. See attached pic; as fitted to my brushless powered Sea Scout.
Bon chance mon ami๐ค
Cheers, Doug๐
PS When I look at the original query again I start to wonder if this thread is not just another 'wind up'. Would not be the first time such has happened here.๐
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Excellent idea Roy๐
I'll be trying that to straighten out my macaroni๐
Just have to buy a few dozen more motors for the test/correction jig.
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Very well done Pete๐๐๐
Looking forward to some pics / vids.
Wish I wasn't so far awayโน๏ธ
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Selber schuld Wolle๐
You did have to want to go and get married๐
You made your bed - now lie in it๐๐ฎ๐
So weit so sehr gut mit Britannia๐ Weiter so๐
Alles gute, Doug๐
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Alessandro,
Your post 5133- yes I did read your post 5039.
That is about a totally different function and has nothing to do with this topic; i.e. reading comments to QOtD questions before answering yourself.
Going back to look at previous questions, as your post 5039 refers to, is not the subject here.
BTW; apropos not being able to do that if you don't contribute to site (as you contend in your post 5039, I can only check if that is the case next February when my current contribution expires) ...
You have been a Basic member of our site for some years now and with your numerous posts (some multiplicity of posts within a very short time frame could have been reduced by use of the 'Edit' function) have risen very quickly to the rank of Fleet Admiral and have apparently enjoyed the debates here and maybe also learned a thing or two and benefited from the experience and knowledge of our members as well as contributing your own expertise.๐
So don't you think it is maybe time to contribute a few shekels/lira to the upkeep of the site which you are so obviously enjoying so much?
Or have you contributed but declined the addition of the corresponding medal to your avatar?
(EDIT- Does anyone actually do that? I doubt it.)
If you had you would be able to 'time travel' and answer any questions you may have missed.
As a regular contributor factually/humorously๐and financially๐คfor many years -
I have to say that I am somewhat dismayed to see that over half of our senior Flag Rank members are merely Basic Members, i.e. do not contribute to the continued existence of the site which they are so obviously enjoying so much and often post experiences of their travels etc which indicate that they are not short of a bob or two.
And before all the pensioner members start an outcry - I AM ALSO A PENSIONER, since Feb. 2017.
But I still manage an annual contribution. I pay a single annual contribution rather than a monthly subscription as doing that reduces the amount taken by the Paypal or credit card institution and thus more of my donation actually goes to the upkeep of our unique and beloved site.
Also consider; the more we members contribute to the site we love the less we are likely to be plagued by intrusive advertising. We are not Google or Amazon and server hardware/space etc, etc must be paid for and we wish to remain independent, don't we?
Cheers All, Doug๐
BTW: Alessandro looking at the number of posts you have so often made within a very short space of time, often 3 or 4 within minutes on the same thread, instead of using the Edit function, I guesstimate that your true point score and thus rank would be- 3980 and thus Captain.
Not really earth shattering but just distorting the ranking/contribution picture.
PS (Edit - this is how it works Alessandro)
I've now erected my Asgard ZPM powered Naquada enhanced shield to deflect eventual phaser/photon/torpedo/drone attacks from basic members.
I have THE GENE๐๐๐คฃ
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