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    Brave Borderer
    Not finished yet but well on the way, a few more parts to fabricate, but slowly getting everything together ready for the final push. Keep calm and carry on. Finally finished if you can ever say that.
    AZIZ
    not built by myself, fitted radio gear had 1st test friday 22-3-19 works well steers great added quite a load of lead ballast to get her down to waterline. desperately needs a bow thruster fitting as cannot turn tight enough due to length
    (Tug Boat) Cervia
    My other nearly complete project, I have hundreds of photos of the full size boat berthed in ramsgate harbour. Built entirely from scratch , made my own hull plug and mold, fibre glass hull and part teak planked deck will complete this soon to sail in summer (Motor: Decaperm x) (10/10) Update16-4-20 99% finished,are they ever
    (Tug Boat) Yorkshireman
    Just purchased from retired sailor,stripping paint and all fittings,giving complete overall first sail date hopefully 15-3-19 (Motor: Decaperm x2) (ESC: x3?) (10/10) Updated 16-4-20 with photos,all ready for life when back to normal and can get to pond
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Shannon class lifeboat
    28 days ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Is this your model or photos of the real boat!!??, Stunning detail, what a modeller.
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    πŸ“ brave borderer 4th sea trial!
    28 days ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Typical yorkshire weather, after 5 minutes it chucked it down so had to make a quick retreat. used just one 2200 3s lipo for now but need a bigger lake/pond really as can only give full power for 3-4 seconds, so stop -go is not good but was hoping to get some good photos-videos, but the rain stopped play till another day.
    Edit, forgot to mention. most of run on centre prop only. the last 5 seconds or so is full power, well nearly.
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    πŸ“ brave borderer, new power plant + 100%
    29 days ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Thanks for that. They are apart and stored safely so looks like I've a spare y connector, for now I will go down the 5000mah battery route, I think until I become a little more experienced iwill use these two for my smaller single prop boats.
    I've looked on the component shop site, and they seem to be out of stock. Maybe when in stock a project for a later update.
    Once again thanks for putting me on the right track, if it wasn't for you knowledgable chaps us newbies would set the world on fire. I hope others reading this learn something aswell. If we don't know, we can't ask the right questions. Cheers Roger
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    πŸ“ brave borderer, new power plant + 100%
    30 days ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    hope this new set up will help with the running longevity, if i take it steady as well. the fuse blowing situation seems to have been fixed now. after running on sunday i felt the esc and battery, they were warm and not hot at all, i could keep my finger on them without it being uncomfortable. cannot wait for the next run with the extra battery and "y" cable, one each side of the hull should also help with the balance.
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 3rd sea trial
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Yes i am running 3 off 1 battery .watck this space. Regards Roger
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 3rd sea trial
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Thanks Rowen
    Our pond isnt that big about 2x tennis courts so i was leaving the centre motor stick at 3/4 throttle for turning, as on my transmiter the left stick is not self centering. Then opening up the 2 outer motors to give a diagonal blast down the pond, so i surpose doing this would use some power up . A bigger pond might have shown a better power return, we will see next time.i did have our pond to myself by the way. Regards Roger
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 3rd sea trial
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Thanks for that Andy, sounds like a great bit of kit to have in the tool box. I would have to change the connectors as i have ic3 type. Also it can be used on other boats as well so its not a lot for the correct info.
    I was wondering if it would be possible instead of buying a 5000mha battery to get another 2200 mha same as ive got and use a y connector. Would this do the job and it would balance the weight to each side of the hull, or am i wrong??.
    What are your thoughts.
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 3rd sea trial
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    After blowing the 20 amp fuse last week, I remodelled the wiring so each motor had its own fuse. While doing this I fitted a 30amp fuse to each holder. This did the job and I didn't blow one fuse today. I started runs just using the centre motor which worked and planed well, then progressed to the outer 2 motors by themselves, wow a great turn of speed planing was perfect. Then onto all three "woohoo" wow the boat just skimmed across the water surface. I just wish I could have videoed the runs, but not possible today, next week possibly.She turned very tightly on centre prop, with no digging in of the bow. So now with the lighter lipo battery this really suits the performance of the boat. My only problem now is run time, as the battery only lasted 15 mins. Would I be better with a 5000 instead of my current 2200??.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 2nd trial, new battery
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi Ronan
    Thanks for your input.
    Its starting to make sense now.
    I bit the bullitt and bought a lipo battery and charger. I ended with a spectrum smart 2200mhz,3s, 11.1v,100c.i had a choice of a 30c but thought it may not be man enough for 3 motors so looked at the 50c, but was out of stock, so i ended with the 100c it was the same price as the 50c anyway. The charger was a spectrum smart type to. This monitors the battery and hopefully does everything automatically.
    Once again thanks for your help and encouragement
    Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 2nd trial, new battery
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi
    Thanks for your input. Little by little everthing makes sense. Its a steep leaning curve but i feel im getting there.
    Thanks once more
    Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 2nd trial, new battery
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi there
    Thanks for your reply
    I have 2 esc 1 for the centre and the other on a y joint to the outer motors.both quikrun 1060,s i will now proceed to fit 3 seperate 30 amp fuses to each motors power feed.thanks for your input
    Roger
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    πŸ“ Brave borderer tries to fly
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Well she was billed as the "Spitfire of the seas" in 1959.
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    Brave Borderer trying to fly.
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 2nd trial, new battery
    1 month ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I've replaced the old 6v sealed wet battery with a lipo 3s,11.1 volt 2200mhz, 100c spectrum smart battery. so the 1st run was cautious i just fired up the centre prop to see how she performed, well i was surprised at the turn of speed she had on just 1 prop, and how well she planed, it was a little awkward filming and controlling the boat by myself as i was the only one pond side. this was not without mishaps though, see 2nd video
    After checking the boat over she was found to be unmarked and no bits missing, not bad to say she hit the pontoon at full speed, took off and plunged back in at the other side.
    So the second run i started on the centre prop and then opened her up on the outer 2, she shot forward and immediately stalled, dead in the water. luckily i could reach her with the ponds barge pole to pull her to the side. i found the fuse had blown , i had fitted a 20amp mini flat fuse, i didn't have a 30amp only another 20amp which blew just as quick, upon opening up the outer props.
    any ideas anyone or will a 30amp do the job, or a 2s battery? help any suggestions considered.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    hi there
    great info
    I`ll read and digest
    roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    i think i must have given wrong info somewhere my battery is only 6volt 12amp
    Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi Martin
    Yes I agree with you, I didn't want to, as most members, as have I, have tugs for towing comps and scale steering models. I don't think it would go down too well racing around at full chat. But its like my "Ferrari" the power is there if you want it. LOL. I wish.
    Regards Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi Doug
    Excellent feedback, thankyou so much it must have took a while to type that reply. I am so grateful.
    A point you make about the 1060 running both outer motors, got me thinking. yesterday at the pond I was running on the centre motor and then gave it full power on the two outers, she picked her bow up momentarily and then dipped ever so slightly. thinking about it now this could have been the temperature protection kicking in, it felt as if something had checked the top speed slightly. I thought at the time it was battery drain from giving it full power.
    The props by the way are 35mm x 3blades
    I have also disconnected a red wire, this was a query the site resolved last year at the time of fitting the esc`s.
    So one partial solution to start with is probably to upgrade to a"1080" esc and definitely change battery type.
    things are looking good, thankyou for your comments, I will certainly be working on them in the coming weeks
    Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    hi Doug
    Thanks for your comments
    The battery is 6v /12Ah, Is this the problem. Should i be using 12V?
    the esc is quicrun 1060 brushed, 60amp x2, 1 for the 2 outer motors and 1 for the centre.
    their spec states Input: 2-3S LiPo/6-9 Cells NiMH
    BEC Output: Linear Mode:6V/3A, sorry for being a novice, what does this mean,
    I was also under the impression that you could not use lipo with brushed motor only brushless and then i would need another type of esp. this is why i have gone down my present route, it was easier to understand and not as expensive,(well so i thought), if i can use lipo or niMH this may be the simple solution, if my grasp of what you are suggesting is correct.
    Roger
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer 1st test run
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    well finally got there. she sits a little low in the water, but evenly along the water line. this was with the battery central to the hull. when powered up the centre screw alone moved her quite serenely and was very manoeuvrable. when power was added to the outer screws I would say she didn't plane well as she wasn't going fast enough. even with all props on full power, I think also she is to heavy and the battery too far forward.
    So to remedy this I moved the battery back a compartment, positioning it over the 3 motors , it was a tight squeeze, but fitted just.
    This sat the stern down a little and the bow up and gave the impression of planeing, she still not fast enough though. the scale speed still doesn't look right.
    I'm going to have to have a rethink on this one. having said all this though she looked well in the water if i say so my self.
    Roger
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer internals
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    As requested some internal photos, not as neat as I would like but I'm still at the "may change things stage".
    Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Brave Borderer finally ready for her sea trials.
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    the shark ate it Martin!!
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    πŸ“ Brave Borderer finally ready for her sea trials.
    2 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Finally finished, well if you can ever be, there is always something to add or change or maybe improve, I'm happy with her, for now anyway. Thanks to R.H.Baker for his help and inspiration over the last year. also to everyone who contributes to this site, it is surprising how much can be learned by reading other peoples messages.
    Thanks to everyone.
    Now to the next project on the slipway
    Regards Roger
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    πŸ’¬ Re: RAF RTTL 2762 E
    3 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Wow you have been busy, hope the water is sailable soon.very nice clean lines not as much deck clutter as the borderer.is the hull similar to the borderer Rowen, as I've got my original i made last year then went and bought a glass fibre hull for my now nearly finished borderer,I was toying with the idea of building a rttl 2755 as the contrast with the white hull and superstructure would compliment the brave border. One if done something like the enclosed photos with the sun shade would make for an interesting model! Thoughts please?. Regards Roger.

    http://www.rafboats.co.uk/gallery/2755/
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    πŸ’¬ Re: RAF RTTL 2762 E
    4 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Good evening from a raw Doncaster
    Well Rowan you certainly know how to put the cat among the pigeons. I've been wondering for 8 months now what to do with the original hull I made for the brave borderer, at the time of making I couldn't get my head around the fibre glassing, so left to one side and chose the easy way out and bought a grp hull.
    So always on the search for my next project maybe now is the time to go lipo and out runners with this type and I get to use the mothballed brave hull, once I've got the "Orca" nearly finished.
    Once again thanks for your inspiration
    Regards Roger
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    πŸ“ Props
    4 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I started my Cervia steam tug in 1972 and finished it last year in lock down
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    πŸ“ Brave borderer torpedos
    5 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    After having some success building the twin orekelon gun for the stern of the brave borderer, I had toyed with the idea of making 2 torpedos for each side of the deck, these items are readily available to purchase, but thought I could do as good a job. The only stumbling block was the tapered rear end. I had successfully made the front end using 18mm plastic tube with a domed end cap.
    The next bit of luck came last week when I acquired a small Myford lathe, so using a piece of the wifes broom handle ,turned 2 tapered rear ends, I then made 2small 4 bladed props and 4 fins, fixed in position I was pleased with the result.
    Next using the photos supplied be our friend Rowen in Canada I made up 2 racks for the deck to hold the weapons in place, they may not be perfect ,but using a bit of modellers licence I think they are acceptable if you don't put you glasses on and view from the lake side, anyway see photos below this may give others a bit of help.
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    5 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Yes they are my fleet.the Aziz,Yorkshireman,Cervia. Then I thought I'd have a change from tugs, now having nearly completed the scratch built 1/32 scale Brave borderer which can be seen on various posts on this site. Plus the new addition on the slipway to be revealed shortly.
    Keep safe, regards Roger
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    5 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Looks like more good luck than judgement, maybe I should get a lottery ticket this week.
    Thanks for your interest
    Stay safe Roger
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    Good evening
    Thanks for your reply I have just tried as you suggested, and nothing happened at all not even the servo working.
    So I plugged the esc into channel 6 port and the motor started to turn, I waggled the stick and it turned faster, then centre - stop then down - and it reversed, I then plugged servo into channel 3 port ( don't ask me why ) and we have steering, left- right - centre,
    I then moved the esc to channel 2 port - perfect
    I switched everything off and on a few times and everything worked perfect ,just like a real one,
    How ,what ,why when. I don't care it works.
    Thankyou everyone for your input, it really gave me confidence to have a go rather than bin it and buy new
    Now back to the brave borderer and the latest secret boat on the slipway, all will be revealed, as soon as I get stuck ,more than likely
    Regards Roger
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    πŸ“ Receiver Ariel
    5 months ago by Rogal118 ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi there
    My Cervia was built from scratch by me, I purchased the plans in1973 and built the hull soon after,making a plug then a mould and then the final hull,my only regret was giving the moulds away at the time,I eventually finished it in1st lockdown, I have a pile of photos that I took of the real Cervia on a trip to Ramsgate harbour some years ago, these have helped with the finishing off greatly.
    Here's a few more photos
    Thanks for your interest Roger
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