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💬 Re: CGINGA1V
14 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM (
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The same story in my life. OUT OF THE WORK ROOM AND ONTO THE WATER!!
GOOD LUCK CHRIS!!
GOOD LUCK CHRIS!!
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📝 Videos of fantastic sailing trips.
14 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Alessandro,
There is VINTAGE MODEL YACHT GROUP which operates in both Europe and North America. They operate restored or reproduction vintage yachts. I am a member. (they have plans!!)
I would not have thought lateens could work with RC control
I counted at least 3 schooners
There is VINTAGE MODEL YACHT GROUP which operates in both Europe and North America. They operate restored or reproduction vintage yachts. I am a member. (they have plans!!)
I would not have thought lateens could work with RC control
I counted at least 3 schooners
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📝 Videos of fantastic sailing trips.
14 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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That was fantastic!! (Nice touch with the classic American cowboy music accompaniment!)
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💬 Re: CGINGA1V
17 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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That's not punched, its burned. The first two (on the left) were too big. The third (far right) is about right. Currently in testing on the RG65. That's Ripstop Nylon, takes the heat well.
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💬 Re: CGINGA 1V
17 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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I have been practicing with 4mm eyelets and seams
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📝 Sail servos
22 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Yes, that would be the issue. You would have to move the sheet exit point from the deck, back further. This gets complicated quickly.
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💬 Re: CGINGA 1V
22 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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She looks wonderful!
Thank you for your information on your decking of 3mil ply and 1 mil planking. Also for the information on 4 mil eyelets. I will take it to heart
Ross
She looks wonderful!
Thank you for your information on your decking of 3mil ply and 1 mil planking. Also for the information on 4 mil eyelets. I will take it to heart
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📝 Sail servos
22 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Glad I could be of assistance.
Would moving the mainsheet attachment point on the boom closer to the mast give you more range of movement of the boom to full out?
I do this alot with the DF65 to adjust the boom because it is so simple to adjust the attachment on a DF65
Would moving the mainsheet attachment point on the boom closer to the mast give you more range of movement of the boom to full out?
I do this alot with the DF65 to adjust the boom because it is so simple to adjust the attachment on a DF65
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📝 Question of the Day?
24 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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I wonder if they are related to my boat?!?😉
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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If you want to have good laugh before starting, check my video on moving a STAYSAIL between 2 masts. (only the engineering mock-up)
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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can your pulley handle the LOOP LINE, MAINSHEET, and ELASTIC LINE volume?
This is going to be a BUSY pulley. can you put the tensioner on the back side of the loop? 2 idler pulleys side-by-side with the tensioner pulley between them, pulling away. the usual method. see also my KUBOTA picture. I think some elastic line might suit you for the tensioner spring
This is going to be a BUSY pulley. can you put the tensioner on the back side of the loop? 2 idler pulleys side-by-side with the tensioner pulley between them, pulling away. the usual method. see also my KUBOTA picture. I think some elastic line might suit you for the tensioner spring
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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A simple LOOP KNOT in the LOOP LINE
expanded size for display. Tightened and half tightened
Then tie the mainsheet to that loop
repeat to tie the elastic to the mainsheet 4 inches or so down the line
anchor elastic other end to the SHEET SIDE of the loop
expanded size for display. Tightened and half tightened
Then tie the mainsheet to that loop
repeat to tie the elastic to the mainsheet 4 inches or so down the line
anchor elastic other end to the SHEET SIDE of the loop
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Main sheet is tied to the loop line
Elastic is tied to the mainsheet, about 4 inches down
Elastic begins to stretch as the mainsheet rounds the pulley
This keeps the tension on the mainsheet as it rounds the pulley
Travel is about 4 inches more as the mainsheet rounds the pulley
I think all you need is an 8 inch elastic in the right place
Elastic is tied to the mainsheet, about 4 inches down
Elastic begins to stretch as the mainsheet rounds the pulley
This keeps the tension on the mainsheet as it rounds the pulley
Travel is about 4 inches more as the mainsheet rounds the pulley
I think all you need is an 8 inch elastic in the right place
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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ELASTIC
I am thinking that the elastic will be too tight at full extension and too slack at retraction. SET THE ELASTIC ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOOP
Can you bring the mainsheet AROUND the upper PULLEY to gain the extra length? That would mean that you would have to rout the MAINSHEET right along side the PULLEY LOOP line and attached to the elastic that tensions as it rounds the pulley.
Have the ELASTIC line tug on the MAINSHEET, JUST AS IT STARTS AROUND THE PULLEY, to keep it seated in the pulley. Is that what you were thinking in your diagram? So the elastic would only have to stretch the distance between LENGTH BETWEEN THE PULLEYS and LENGTH OF MAINSHEET. Approximately 5 inches. Shows ELASTIC at FINISH POINT
I am thinking that the elastic will be too tight at full extension and too slack at retraction. SET THE ELASTIC ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOOP
Can you bring the mainsheet AROUND the upper PULLEY to gain the extra length? That would mean that you would have to rout the MAINSHEET right along side the PULLEY LOOP line and attached to the elastic that tensions as it rounds the pulley.
Have the ELASTIC line tug on the MAINSHEET, JUST AS IT STARTS AROUND THE PULLEY, to keep it seated in the pulley. Is that what you were thinking in your diagram? So the elastic would only have to stretch the distance between LENGTH BETWEEN THE PULLEYS and LENGTH OF MAINSHEET. Approximately 5 inches. Shows ELASTIC at FINISH POINT
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Just an idea . . .
Instead of running the sheet from the 'too short' MAIN SHEET LOOP, (because the loop is too short), run the required LEVER from the MAIN SHEET LOOP.
How much lever length-arc do you need to run the MAIN SHEET?
How much run do you have on the MAIN SHEET LOOP?
Instead of running the sheet from the 'too short' MAIN SHEET LOOP, (because the loop is too short), run the required LEVER from the MAIN SHEET LOOP.
How much lever length-arc do you need to run the MAIN SHEET?
How much run do you have on the MAIN SHEET LOOP?
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📝 Sail servos
25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Is this the Bristol Pilot Cutter- THREE DAUGHTERS?
Is there a tensioner pulley? I have spent many years with continuous loops and tensioner pulleys. The tensioner pulley is in the centre, the spring is along side it (a Kubota). It doesn't slack or tangle
BillH2 is correct
Is there a tensioner pulley? I have spent many years with continuous loops and tensioner pulleys. The tensioner pulley is in the centre, the spring is along side it (a Kubota). It doesn't slack or tangle
BillH2 is correct
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25 days ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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It sounds like a lot of torque. BUT before throwing the baby out with the bathwater can you post some pics of your layout?
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📝 STAYSAIL POWERED
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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. . . and powered . .
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📝 JIBS WINCH
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Yes Alessandro, you are correct
The JIBS WINCH is doing a similar job to the STAYSAIL WINCH. PORT & STARBOARD lines up and over the JIB TOPSAIL STAY & the JIB STAY, 4 lines
PORT JIB TOPSAIL
STARBOARD JIB TOPSAIL
PORT JIB
STARBOARD JIB
So the STAYSAIL WINCH can be a copy of the JIBS WINCH
The JIBS WINCH is doing a similar job to the STAYSAIL WINCH. PORT & STARBOARD lines up and over the JIB TOPSAIL STAY & the JIB STAY, 4 lines
PORT JIB TOPSAIL
STARBOARD JIB TOPSAIL
PORT JIB
STARBOARD JIB
So the STAYSAIL WINCH can be a copy of the JIBS WINCH
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📝 staysail control winch
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Using a copy of the JIBS WINCH, one side will pay out 76 cm of line, while the other side takes up 76 cm of line. To change side, reverse motor
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📝 STAYSAIL CONTROLS
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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There are actually 4 lines 2 starboard 2 port (at top and bottom)
One pair pull around foresail to port side, the opposite pulls around foresail to starboard side
The line to left and the lower line are the slack line that travel around the foresail. The line to right pulls to foremast
Using your diagram, the slack, dotted line doesn't go from behind the foresail to the mainsail, the slack, dotted line goes from behind the foresail to the luff of the staysail. Pulling on that dotted line will (hopefully) pull the staysail to the rear of the foresail and then back up the the front of the foresail, on the other side.
The staysail remains attached to the mainmast at all times
There are actually 4 lines 2 starboard 2 port (at top and bottom)
One pair pull around foresail to port side, the opposite pulls around foresail to starboard side
The line to left and the lower line are the slack line that travel around the foresail. The line to right pulls to foremast
Using your diagram, the slack, dotted line doesn't go from behind the foresail to the mainsail, the slack, dotted line goes from behind the foresail to the luff of the staysail. Pulling on that dotted line will (hopefully) pull the staysail to the rear of the foresail and then back up the the front of the foresail, on the other side.
The staysail remains attached to the mainmast at all times
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📝 STAYSAIL
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Alessandro,
Thank you for your support! By LEACH of the foresail, I was referring to the rear edge of the foresail. The leach of a schooner foresail is almost vertical. It may not be clear from the video, but the line that travels around the rear of the FORESAIL will always be slack, the second line will take the tension. It will then be reversed as the STAYSAIL moves aft of the FORESAIL, to the other side. If I am not explaining properly ask again, I need your challenges.👍
Thank you for your support! By LEACH of the foresail, I was referring to the rear edge of the foresail. The leach of a schooner foresail is almost vertical. It may not be clear from the video, but the line that travels around the rear of the FORESAIL will always be slack, the second line will take the tension. It will then be reversed as the STAYSAIL moves aft of the FORESAIL, to the other side. If I am not explaining properly ask again, I need your challenges.👍
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📝 staysail movement
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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movement of staysail around the foresail
stick on left represents the mainmast
stick on right represents the foremast
stick in centre represents the leach of the foresail
bow to right side
stern to left side
(starboard side view)
stick on left represents the mainmast
stick on right represents the foremast
stick in centre represents the leach of the foresail
bow to right side
stern to left side
(starboard side view)
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📝 sailing 6 channel
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Ah, Mr Holmes, you saw through my attempt to misled you with a very thorough answer to only half the question!
The second half
Why?
Firstly, to see if it could be done. Could a 6 channel vessel be put together and operate as hoped? The evidence for and against is still being gathered. More later.
Secondly, 52 years ago I created my own design of schooner, much smaller and simpler. It sailed in breezes I couldn't even feel, a good light wind boat. Total sailing time on that hull might have been 2 hours before life got in the way and it was left behind (ROSEBUD).
Now I have all the time in the world
Thirdly. my design time greatly exceeds my sailing time. So I need lessons and practise. The local model sailing club has been very generous with their time, knowledge, and experience. They have shown me that even the simple 2 channel class racing boats are tuned to performance. Millimeters and grams count in winning races. So, minute changes in configuration, greatly change performance. I have spent most of my career working with and against wind and water, constantly readjusting to adapt. I can now do it as a hobby.
I carry the adjust-adapt philosophy with me to the boat.
The more adjustments that you can control, the better the adaption to the conditions, and the better the performance. I have seen your work displayed here, you do strive for better performance. Your construction performance is art. With more sail controls you can improve your sailing performance. Be it better sailing in light winds (my staysail), faster speed (adjusting the slots between the sails for optimal flow), faster tacking (controlling the jibs), sailing closer to the wind (each sail will have its own optimal setting for maximum force). In the end, it will be how pleased you are with your better performance. You have achieved that with your construction performance. Are you ready to take it to your sailing performance?
The second half
Why?
Firstly, to see if it could be done. Could a 6 channel vessel be put together and operate as hoped? The evidence for and against is still being gathered. More later.
Secondly, 52 years ago I created my own design of schooner, much smaller and simpler. It sailed in breezes I couldn't even feel, a good light wind boat. Total sailing time on that hull might have been 2 hours before life got in the way and it was left behind (ROSEBUD).
Now I have all the time in the world
Thirdly. my design time greatly exceeds my sailing time. So I need lessons and practise. The local model sailing club has been very generous with their time, knowledge, and experience. They have shown me that even the simple 2 channel class racing boats are tuned to performance. Millimeters and grams count in winning races. So, minute changes in configuration, greatly change performance. I have spent most of my career working with and against wind and water, constantly readjusting to adapt. I can now do it as a hobby.
I carry the adjust-adapt philosophy with me to the boat.
The more adjustments that you can control, the better the adaption to the conditions, and the better the performance. I have seen your work displayed here, you do strive for better performance. Your construction performance is art. With more sail controls you can improve your sailing performance. Be it better sailing in light winds (my staysail), faster speed (adjusting the slots between the sails for optimal flow), faster tacking (controlling the jibs), sailing closer to the wind (each sail will have its own optimal setting for maximum force). In the end, it will be how pleased you are with your better performance. You have achieved that with your construction performance. Are you ready to take it to your sailing performance?
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1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Alessandro,
In my 'previous' life (sounds a little Buddhist, doesn't it) operating a skid steer loader (BOBCAT S70 LOADER, if you want to Google it) required left heel control, left toe control, right heel control, right toe control, left arm control, right arm control, strapped into the bouncing machine in a roll cage. ( one of my operator flipped one on its side, they got it back upright on their own and didn't tell me for 2 weeks). To transport this equipment on a truck in a snowstorm, was up 2 ramps 45cm wide, backwards, in the dark about two thirds of the time. I had about 2000 hours on skid steers. I could go on further about 14 hours days in a plow truck, it's boring. Sailing 6 channels is a retirement holiday requiring 2 thumb control and 2 fore finger control. enough of my rant
In my 'previous' life (sounds a little Buddhist, doesn't it) operating a skid steer loader (BOBCAT S70 LOADER, if you want to Google it) required left heel control, left toe control, right heel control, right toe control, left arm control, right arm control, strapped into the bouncing machine in a roll cage. ( one of my operator flipped one on its side, they got it back upright on their own and didn't tell me for 2 weeks). To transport this equipment on a truck in a snowstorm, was up 2 ramps 45cm wide, backwards, in the dark about two thirds of the time. I had about 2000 hours on skid steers. I could go on further about 14 hours days in a plow truck, it's boring. Sailing 6 channels is a retirement holiday requiring 2 thumb control and 2 fore finger control. enough of my rant
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1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Yes, I used to find it would take 10 hours of operation to get to the point that I didn't have to think about it, just do it. Skid steers and snow plow trucks
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📝 SPRING STAY
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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- CAPTAIN! CAPTAIN! I'VE JUST HAD AN APOSTROPHE!!
- I THINK YOU MEAN AN EPIPHANY!!
-RIGHT! RIGHT!
I can run the STAYSAIL up the SPRING STAY, which runs between the lower FORE MAST, at the trestle, and the MAIN TOPMAST and carries the STAYSAIL!!! Just retract it backwards up the SPRING STAY
- I THINK YOU MEAN AN EPIPHANY!!
-RIGHT! RIGHT!
I can run the STAYSAIL up the SPRING STAY, which runs between the lower FORE MAST, at the trestle, and the MAIN TOPMAST and carries the STAYSAIL!!! Just retract it backwards up the SPRING STAY
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📝 SERVOS
1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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Question:
Was your problem proper controls for all 6 servos or eye hand coordination for appropriate stick/switch for appropriate servo at the exact instant it was needed?
Question:
Was your problem proper controls for all 6 servos or eye hand coordination for appropriate stick/switch for appropriate servo at the exact instant it was needed?
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1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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The transmitter is a FLYSKY FS-i6 6 channel, connected to FS-iA6B 6 channel receiver, running 6 servos, (one rudder and 5 winches). 1 servo for each channel.
3 channels are running 2 sails each
1 JIB & JIB TOPSAIL
2 FORESAIL & FORE TOPSAIL
3 MAINSAIL & MAIN TOPSAIL 6 sails
2 channels are running 1 sail each
1 JUMBO JIB
2 STAYSAIL 2 sails
8 sails when the STAYSAIL control is complete
5 WINCHES
3 channels are running 2 sails each
1 JIB & JIB TOPSAIL
2 FORESAIL & FORE TOPSAIL
3 MAINSAIL & MAIN TOPSAIL 6 sails
2 channels are running 1 sail each
1 JUMBO JIB
2 STAYSAIL 2 sails
8 sails when the STAYSAIL control is complete
5 WINCHES
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1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RossM ( Lieutenant)
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I will be up to 6 servos:
1 JIB TOPSAIL & JIB
2 JUMBO JIB
3 FOREMAST SAILS
4 STAYSAIL
5 MAINMAST SAILS
6 RUDDER
I will send the engineering drawings for approval as soon as I get them out of my head. STAYSAIL moving back and forward was never on the original plan but you inspired me to push through👍!
I will be up to 6 servos:
1 JIB TOPSAIL & JIB
2 JUMBO JIB
3 FOREMAST SAILS
4 STAYSAIL
5 MAINMAST SAILS
6 RUDDER
I will send the engineering drawings for approval as soon as I get them out of my head. STAYSAIL moving back and forward was never on the original plan but you inspired me to push through👍!
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