Join Us On Social Media!
|
|
|
Download The App!
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
Model Boats Website
Lieutenant)
Captain)
Sub-Lieutenant)
Commodore)
Fleet Admiral)
Admiral)
Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
United Kingdom
Recent Posts
📝 San Diego Argonauts Model Boat Pond
15 hours ago by 🇬🇧 roycv (
Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 19 Views · 4 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
HI Ronald, loved your video and Gary always makes me smile, so for me a great start to the morning.
Personal comment on the yachts, they are best sailed as upright as possible, Gary's sail boats looked just right.
Several of the other yachts could have done with a smaller suite of sails and one or two skippers some reminders of how to go around the buoys!
I think no ill will was intended but many model boaters know where their models are, but necessarily, where they are going.
I am going to watch again!
Well done
Roy
Personal comment on the yachts, they are best sailed as upright as possible, Gary's sail boats looked just right.
Several of the other yachts could have done with a smaller suite of sails and one or two skippers some reminders of how to go around the buoys!
I think no ill will was intended but many model boaters know where their models are, but necessarily, where they are going.
I am going to watch again!
Well done
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Len1
Ronald
RodC
hermank
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
📝 Apologies for non participation
1 day ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 47 Views · 7 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
Hi Doogle, sorry to hear of your loss, pets are like one of the family.
Regards
Roy
Regards
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
jumpugly
Len1
Wolle
hermank
Doogle
Scamp
DuncanP
💬 Re: Clive Puffer
3 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 99 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Hello Garth, the puffers did most of their trade on the Forth and Clyde canal in Scotland, and were known as Clyde Puffers.
But they have been in existence since 1856 to 1939. There is loads of history on the Internet.
Roy
But they have been in existence since 1856 to 1939. There is loads of history on the Internet.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Doogle
hermank
Len1
📝 Decals
3 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 23 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
Hi all, I have been reading about placing decals on models. I was shown a different way which might surprise.
So, perhaps not for transfers but decals thin plastic and sticky this works very well and I have used this way for many years.
First peel the backing off and place the decal into warm soapy water. Leave it for a bit and make sure the surface it is to be stuck on is cleaned and wet.
Take the decal out and position it where you want. It can be slid about until you are happy. Then, with a sponge, start at the centre and firmly squeeze out all the water and any bubbles. Because it is warm, the decal will take up any slight curve without any difficulty.
Gently wipe dry and job done!
Yes I didn't believe it until I tried it!
I was finishing a model yacht (Graupner Libera Ocean) and it has the name about 10 inches long to be applied to the hull sides.
This way it was placed exactly in the right position, which I doubt could have been done the dry way.
Roy
So, perhaps not for transfers but decals thin plastic and sticky this works very well and I have used this way for many years.
First peel the backing off and place the decal into warm soapy water. Leave it for a bit and make sure the surface it is to be stuck on is cleaned and wet.
Take the decal out and position it where you want. It can be slid about until you are happy. Then, with a sponge, start at the centre and firmly squeeze out all the water and any bubbles. Because it is warm, the decal will take up any slight curve without any difficulty.
Gently wipe dry and job done!
Yes I didn't believe it until I tried it!
I was finishing a model yacht (Graupner Libera Ocean) and it has the name about 10 inches long to be applied to the hull sides.
This way it was placed exactly in the right position, which I doubt could have been done the dry way.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Olly999
Fred
📝 Question of the Day?
4 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 56 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
I googled this morning to find China had 85 subs. Now it is only 65.
Nothing on the news about 20 missing subs or maybe I need to go to Specsavers, (again).
Roy
Nothing on the news about 20 missing subs or maybe I need to go to Specsavers, (again).
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
hermank
💬 Re: sailing
5 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 34 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Hi Ross agree entirely! The 4% I quoted is for the yacht illustrated it has also worked for a standard Bermuda rig.
I have a schooner on the back burner and thanks for your info advising 7 % I will take note of that and apply.
Always learning! I love it!
Best
Roy
I have a schooner on the back burner and thanks for your info advising 7 % I will take note of that and apply.
Always learning! I love it!
Best
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
AlessandroSPQR
Len1
hermank
💬 Re: cartesian coordinates
5 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 36 Views · 1 Like
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Hi all, nice to do the maths but which is most important, the calculation and solution or constructing a practical model?
When scaling down from a prototype as we know, hulls and sails do not change in proportion to each other. I start from the size of the finished model, i.e. will it fit in my car and also have a place in the house.
So working out a suitable hull size comes first. Dividing the model length into the prototype length gives a scale. The cube of the scale gives a 'scale displacement', in some scales just not practical! All my models have to earn their living at the lakeside.
It is fortunate that to make a model sail, the invisible part under the water can be doctored in many ways.
The models by Glynn Guest have relatively crude hulls and what used to be called 'stand off scale' appearance. I have built several and they look good on the water. I also enjoyed the construction.
So we have to decide where your interest lies? Doing exact calculations for hull displacement is conditioned by sailing in water (and waves) that have obstinately remained at full size.
Hull displacement calculations could have a 10% error but it would not be noticeable when on the water. Bearing in mind that all the mentioned calculations have an end in practical sailing.
If only constructing a display model the numbers are irrelevant!
It reminds me of the radio control of the 1950s where the boat was the least important aspect of the model!
Just my two pennorth!
Roy
When scaling down from a prototype as we know, hulls and sails do not change in proportion to each other. I start from the size of the finished model, i.e. will it fit in my car and also have a place in the house.
So working out a suitable hull size comes first. Dividing the model length into the prototype length gives a scale. The cube of the scale gives a 'scale displacement', in some scales just not practical! All my models have to earn their living at the lakeside.
It is fortunate that to make a model sail, the invisible part under the water can be doctored in many ways.
The models by Glynn Guest have relatively crude hulls and what used to be called 'stand off scale' appearance. I have built several and they look good on the water. I also enjoyed the construction.
So we have to decide where your interest lies? Doing exact calculations for hull displacement is conditioned by sailing in water (and waves) that have obstinately remained at full size.
Hull displacement calculations could have a 10% error but it would not be noticeable when on the water. Bearing in mind that all the mentioned calculations have an end in practical sailing.
If only constructing a display model the numbers are irrelevant!
It reminds me of the radio control of the 1950s where the boat was the least important aspect of the model!
Just my two pennorth!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
AlessandroSPQR
💬 Re: block coefficient
5 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 42 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
If you look at the hull lines, draw the limiting line under the hull before it drops at right angles to the keel. Everything above is the hull to use in calculations.
The keel is then measured almost as a trapezium in cross-section by the area.
With a hull built and ready to float and weighted correctly fore and aft. I put the hull into a bath full of water. I do not make big ones any more!
I have already put some cheap masking tape around the middle and side of the hull. With a pencil I push the hull sideways through the water.
Find the sweet spot where the hull moves evenly, not going to one side or the other, and mark it.
This is the CLR.
When the sail area calculations are done and the C of E of the sail area is worked out, it is this point that should be placed 4% ahead of the waterline length. This will give a nicely balanced sailing attitude.
The mast can then be mounted in the position already determined by where the C of E is to be. I do all this before working out where access and s/s should be.
By this I mean with sails at 30 degrees she will sail a straight course with no rudder adjustment needed.
My last 3 yachts have been set up in this way and they work fine.
With Bella there was a set mast position on the plans, I ignored this and moved the mast position back aft 2cms, which was as far as I could.
To get a better balance, i installed a bowsprit and the fore jib is moved forward until the C of E is just ahead of the CLR by 4%. The length of the bowsprit was now determined. Fittings were soldered up and she looks just right as well!
The fore jib is on a loop and fixed, but after a year sailing her I decided to have a standard servo with a small arm fitted to pull in the fore jib sheet and tighten sail.
The effect is dramatic! Careful control creates a wind slot for the jib and main sail and she speeds up.
Roy
The keel is then measured almost as a trapezium in cross-section by the area.
With a hull built and ready to float and weighted correctly fore and aft. I put the hull into a bath full of water. I do not make big ones any more!
I have already put some cheap masking tape around the middle and side of the hull. With a pencil I push the hull sideways through the water.
Find the sweet spot where the hull moves evenly, not going to one side or the other, and mark it.
This is the CLR.
When the sail area calculations are done and the C of E of the sail area is worked out, it is this point that should be placed 4% ahead of the waterline length. This will give a nicely balanced sailing attitude.
The mast can then be mounted in the position already determined by where the C of E is to be. I do all this before working out where access and s/s should be.
By this I mean with sails at 30 degrees she will sail a straight course with no rudder adjustment needed.
My last 3 yachts have been set up in this way and they work fine.
With Bella there was a set mast position on the plans, I ignored this and moved the mast position back aft 2cms, which was as far as I could.
To get a better balance, i installed a bowsprit and the fore jib is moved forward until the C of E is just ahead of the CLR by 4%. The length of the bowsprit was now determined. Fittings were soldered up and she looks just right as well!
The fore jib is on a loop and fixed, but after a year sailing her I decided to have a standard servo with a small arm fitted to pull in the fore jib sheet and tighten sail.
The effect is dramatic! Careful control creates a wind slot for the jib and main sail and she speeds up.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
AlessandroSPQR
hermank
RossM
💬 Re: block coefficient
5 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 44 Views · 1 Like
Flag
💬 Add Comment
I don't think the extended keel is taken in to account in the calculation. The numbers I see are 0,45 - 0.55 for sailing yachts.
When I modified the Aero-naut Bella yacht I beefed up the keel with 3mm bass wood each side as I did not think a 3mm keel could support a 1 Kgrm lead weight.
It was given an aerofoil finish and the 2 keel weights were screwed back in place.
I worked out the additional buoyancy from the keel which by chance equalled the filled in lead between the keel pieces. The waterline stayed exactly the same and the righting moment had improved.
With the gaff rigged sail suite I drew up and made, there was a 40% increase in sail area but the C of E had dropped much lower so she sails very nicely.
I am still trying to find someone with a standard Bella with the Bermuda sails to compare.
Roy
When I modified the Aero-naut Bella yacht I beefed up the keel with 3mm bass wood each side as I did not think a 3mm keel could support a 1 Kgrm lead weight.
It was given an aerofoil finish and the 2 keel weights were screwed back in place.
I worked out the additional buoyancy from the keel which by chance equalled the filled in lead between the keel pieces. The waterline stayed exactly the same and the righting moment had improved.
With the gaff rigged sail suite I drew up and made, there was a 40% increase in sail area but the C of E had dropped much lower so she sails very nicely.
I am still trying to find someone with a standard Bella with the Bermuda sails to compare.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Len1
📝 Question of the Day?
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 48 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
I think there is something going wrong as I have been advised again I have answered the QoD before. No score change except when I entered the wrong answer again.
I feel I am letting my country down!
Roy
I feel I am letting my country down!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
hermank
💬 Re: displacement
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 50 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Remembering back too many years I recall multiplying frame areas 1-4-2-4-2-4-1 and doing things to them I have forgotten.
On another point of kit production by Deans. Ron told me that they obtained permission to produce models from original plans by Camper and Nicholson.
We had a couple of motor yachts, Melita and Dufresne and the very large yacht Blue Leopard. The proviso was that he could use only the prototype drawings and not adjust them for a model.
I talked to Ron when Blue Leopard was first put on the market. He challenged me to find out what he had done. As I knew what to look for I saw he had made the keel very wide to gain more displacement.
I was hoping to have the model to do a build review for the International Boat modeller magazine. The then editor was also a yachtsman and did not like the way it was set up as a model and said he did not want it reviewed.
I was a bit 'iffy' about it as well so there we are.
If anyone is interested the original Blue Leopard model yacht, which when viewed, does look good on the water is now on sale.
I have sailed this one as Ron let me take her out for a spin at the late Pangbourne model boat show now defunct and she does sail well.
Roy
On another point of kit production by Deans. Ron told me that they obtained permission to produce models from original plans by Camper and Nicholson.
We had a couple of motor yachts, Melita and Dufresne and the very large yacht Blue Leopard. The proviso was that he could use only the prototype drawings and not adjust them for a model.
I talked to Ron when Blue Leopard was first put on the market. He challenged me to find out what he had done. As I knew what to look for I saw he had made the keel very wide to gain more displacement.
I was hoping to have the model to do a build review for the International Boat modeller magazine. The then editor was also a yachtsman and did not like the way it was set up as a model and said he did not want it reviewed.
I was a bit 'iffy' about it as well so there we are.
If anyone is interested the original Blue Leopard model yacht, which when viewed, does look good on the water is now on sale.
I have sailed this one as Ron let me take her out for a spin at the late Pangbourne model boat show now defunct and she does sail well.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Len1
RossM
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
📝 Question of the Day?
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 49 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
Another repeat, I put keel before and got it wrong and so I put hull, wrong again. BUT my significant 'other' has been there before me!!!
I am being haunted on-line!
Roy
I am being haunted on-line!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
hermank
💬 Re: "Turtle"
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 28 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Lovely attractive lines, they knew how to do it then. Very similar to the plans of Mistral which can be found on-line.
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Brightwork
Mike Stoney
💬 Re: displacement
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 53 Views · 5 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
I started learning the basics from an EUP notebook size book called 'Teach yourself Naval Architecture'
I got halfway!
Roy
I got halfway!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
xtramaths
Len1
AlessandroSPQR
RossM
hermank
💬 Re: transport
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 44 Views · 0 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Hi again another thing I frequently do is to work out the expected underwater volume of the prototype and then work out what size model I want.
Then scale it down. This usually produces a hull which is either too light or unstable. Using experience to judge what a practical model should weigh, I see about making the hull larger.
Some years ago I was asked to take a scale display model of a sailing yacht, and make it a practical sailing boat with RC.
The model is a metre long but weighed in at just 7 pounds. I calculated a minimum displacement of the hull for sailing and decided on around 11 pounds.
Lots of thinking came up with having no noticeable changes in hull shape. I did this by double planking with the first planking at 3mm and then the kit supplied 1mm planking diagonally on top. Unexpectedly the fine point of the bow increased the length by 2 cm, well you can't think of everything!
This was not enough. I gained the rest by making the keel fatter and extending it down by about 6 inches and then fitted a bulb keel.
The model is still available as a kit and is the Amati Endeavour Americas cup yacht at 1:35 scale.
The yacht has an enormous sail area and would overwhelm the model. So this was cut back which also allowed a backstay to be fitted.
You may have to pay extra for the conversion information.
Roy
Then scale it down. This usually produces a hull which is either too light or unstable. Using experience to judge what a practical model should weigh, I see about making the hull larger.
Some years ago I was asked to take a scale display model of a sailing yacht, and make it a practical sailing boat with RC.
The model is a metre long but weighed in at just 7 pounds. I calculated a minimum displacement of the hull for sailing and decided on around 11 pounds.
Lots of thinking came up with having no noticeable changes in hull shape. I did this by double planking with the first planking at 3mm and then the kit supplied 1mm planking diagonally on top. Unexpectedly the fine point of the bow increased the length by 2 cm, well you can't think of everything!
This was not enough. I gained the rest by making the keel fatter and extending it down by about 6 inches and then fitted a bulb keel.
The model is still available as a kit and is the Amati Endeavour Americas cup yacht at 1:35 scale.
The yacht has an enormous sail area and would overwhelm the model. So this was cut back which also allowed a backstay to be fitted.
You may have to pay extra for the conversion information.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
No likes yet
This member will receive 1 point
for every like received
This member will receive 1 point
for every like received
💬 Re: displacement calculations
6 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 55 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Have you tried the old methods? I get a good estimate using the Prismatic coefficient.
This takes the immersed centre area bulkhead area multiply by the length at the waterline and apply the coefficient for that type of hull which will be a decimal value.
Yachts are around 0.45 - 0.55 ranging to bulk carriers at 0.95. A solid block would be 1.0.
Another way for similar ended hulls is to treat the ends as half each so two ends = 1 and then calculate the centre portion.
The first programme I ever wrote was to produce a look-up fanfold printout to do just this. That would be in 1966 and written in PLAN.
I hate programming! It can take you over thinking about it. I leave it all to my son.
This takes the immersed centre area bulkhead area multiply by the length at the waterline and apply the coefficient for that type of hull which will be a decimal value.
Yachts are around 0.45 - 0.55 ranging to bulk carriers at 0.95. A solid block would be 1.0.
Another way for similar ended hulls is to treat the ends as half each so two ends = 1 and then calculate the centre portion.
The first programme I ever wrote was to produce a look-up fanfold printout to do just this. That would be in 1966 and written in PLAN.
I hate programming! It can take you over thinking about it. I leave it all to my son.
▲
⟩⟩
AlessandroSPQR
hermank
Len1
📝 Question of the Day?
8 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 53 Views · 0 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
The quiz master said I have already answered this question. It is my ruddy alter ego again!
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
No likes yet
This member will receive 1 point
for every like received
This member will receive 1 point
for every like received
📝 Question of the Day?
8 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 51 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
Oh! no it is'nt!!!!!
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
DuncanP
📝 Question of the Day?
9 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 49 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
There was a very good episode on a paddle steamer in Egypt!
But he is not the type to be too close to because of all the crime around him, dodgy altogether.
Captain Hastings is a product of the private schools in the early 1900s, terribly nice been in the army and trades on his last rank of Captain, but a good gopher.
However the actual filming is a delight and alternate episodes were directed by their own team and both won awards.
I love the old London taxis used and had a dinky toy model of one when younger.
The series could not go on forever and eventually he dies on his last case!
Other actors have tried their hand in the role but pale (especially the current one) into insignificance in comparison to David Suchet. Some might note his brother was a TV newsreader.
I should add I did like Peter Ustinov in the part!
Roy
But he is not the type to be too close to because of all the crime around him, dodgy altogether.
Captain Hastings is a product of the private schools in the early 1900s, terribly nice been in the army and trades on his last rank of Captain, but a good gopher.
However the actual filming is a delight and alternate episodes were directed by their own team and both won awards.
I love the old London taxis used and had a dinky toy model of one when younger.
The series could not go on forever and eventually he dies on his last case!
Other actors have tried their hand in the role but pale (especially the current one) into insignificance in comparison to David Suchet. Some might note his brother was a TV newsreader.
I should add I did like Peter Ustinov in the part!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
DuncanP
📝 Question of the Day?
9 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 46 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
If England is more advanced I feel sorrry for the Canadians.
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
GARTH
hermank
📝 Question of the Day?
9 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 44 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
I the Model Boats magazine a few decades ago there was a model boat kit review by a friend of mine and one of the photos was on the cover.
The graphics designer decided that the picture looked better if laterally inverted (going the other way). However his nautical experience was zero as the starboard side now had a red light.
Also when colour was first introduced there were just 4 pages of colour in the middle. A photo of a model boat was spread across 2 pages with the front half in colour and the back half black and white!
Roy
The graphics designer decided that the picture looked better if laterally inverted (going the other way). However his nautical experience was zero as the starboard side now had a red light.
Also when colour was first introduced there were just 4 pages of colour in the middle. A photo of a model boat was spread across 2 pages with the front half in colour and the back half black and white!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
hermank
RossM
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
📝 Question of the Day?
11 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 47 Views · 2 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
If at first you don't succeed then Sky diving is not for you!
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
jumpugly
Commodore-H
📝 Question of the Day?
13 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 56 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
I have had a couple of set backs on answers lately, got this one right but lurking in the high 80's now.
It all makes a good talking point and generates much comment.
Off to the lake after I have had a coffee. Looks like a nice day but not much wind.
Roy
It all makes a good talking point and generates much comment.
Off to the lake after I have had a coffee. Looks like a nice day but not much wind.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
DuncanP
💬 Re: Devonport Maritime Museum
13 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 151 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Nice set of pictures. I have always liked the Spray. But there are many versions of it among the plans available.
I am thinking of doing a deck layout on a 32 inch yacht hull I have which will be similar in layout to this boat.
My only enemy is anno domini as it edges on day by day. Today though it is off sailing on the pond.
Roy
I am thinking of doing a deck layout on a 32 inch yacht hull I have which will be similar in layout to this boat.
My only enemy is anno domini as it edges on day by day. Today though it is off sailing on the pond.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Peejay
Len1
peterd
📝 Flywheels - gyros for stabilization
13 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 29 Views · 1 Like
Flag
📝 Reply
Hello Ross I plead research not plagiarism!
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Len1
📝 Names of Fishing Boats
14 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 34 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
Fishing is a hard life as we all know, we have a fishing series on TV at the moment (from 2018). It was to illustrate the changes due to the UK leaving the EU.
However it is an education about the fishing industry that many who just buy their battered cod in the suoermarket are just not aware.
The current technology is frightening with underwater CCTV of what is in the net and then using special 'pumps' that feed the fish into the hold without anyone touching a net.
The programme I saw had the skipper selling his catch for well over £1million!
He was fishing between north Scotland and Scandanavia and homed in on a shoal of fish 7 miles long! It all went to Sushi-land!
It is all a political football as the folk of Cornwall have found out. Rather than selling a fishing boat for conversion to leisure use the E.U. (when we were in it) said the boats must be sawn in half!
Roy
However it is an education about the fishing industry that many who just buy their battered cod in the suoermarket are just not aware.
The current technology is frightening with underwater CCTV of what is in the net and then using special 'pumps' that feed the fish into the hold without anyone touching a net.
The programme I saw had the skipper selling his catch for well over £1million!
He was fishing between north Scotland and Scandanavia and homed in on a shoal of fish 7 miles long! It all went to Sushi-land!
It is all a political football as the folk of Cornwall have found out. Rather than selling a fishing boat for conversion to leisure use the E.U. (when we were in it) said the boats must be sawn in half!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
hermank
RodC
Len1
📝 Flywheels - gyros for stabilization
15 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 62 Views · 6 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
Hi Lew, I seem to remember prior perhaps to RC that the 'straight runner' boats could use a spinning gyro. It assisted directional travel and was more steady.
You said in your post "not spinning" not sure what you mean?
As far as bobbing about, weight distribution can help. Think of a barbell in weight training. If you ballast a model towards the bow and stern there is less bobbing about. But there is a penalty in steering.
I have a yacht that relies on internal ballast and not a deep keel and this does not bob about.
Cruise ships have stabilisers and there is an electronic device that senses movement that could be used to operate stabiliser fins. I think model helicopters and submarines use it.
A cheap way I read about was to have a tank of water like a slightly lengthened coke can and fill to one third with water. It would have baffles inside to slow the transfer of water from one side to the other and mounted high up.
This causes a delay in the water transfer and does combat the boat movement.
Intriguing!
Roy
You said in your post "not spinning" not sure what you mean?
As far as bobbing about, weight distribution can help. Think of a barbell in weight training. If you ballast a model towards the bow and stern there is less bobbing about. But there is a penalty in steering.
I have a yacht that relies on internal ballast and not a deep keel and this does not bob about.
Cruise ships have stabilisers and there is an electronic device that senses movement that could be used to operate stabiliser fins. I think model helicopters and submarines use it.
A cheap way I read about was to have a tank of water like a slightly lengthened coke can and fill to one third with water. It would have baffles inside to slow the transfer of water from one side to the other and mounted high up.
This causes a delay in the water transfer and does combat the boat movement.
Intriguing!
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Fred
RossM
Peejay
Doogle
Len1
hermank
📝 Names of Fishing Boats
15 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 47 Views · 12 Likes
Flag
📝 Reply
We know now that there is not an infinite number of fish or any other living thing.
When men go fishing on a commercial basis they overtake the replacement rate of the fish.
In the North Sea we had the 'silver darlings' or herring, and they were fished out.
Actually when man goes to war, this benefits the fish!
During the 2nd. world war the fishing in the North Sea was very limited and over the 6 years the fishing stock recovered very well.
I have to say that fish is one of my favourite foods but I am still aware of the implications to the fish.
On a lighter note, my son and I have eaten fish and chips as a treat in many places.
In Australia NSW the favoured white fish is flathead, a really ugly fish but very tasty.
In Tasmania we had 'gummy shark' as the prefered white fish, also good, a bit like rock salmon (also from the small shark species).
My favourite though is skate, part of the Ray family.
As far as fishing boat models go I do like the North Sea Norwegian fishing boats of the 30's that have survived through to be tourist attractions now. They evolved as the result of years of fishing and bad weather.
The Billing kit Mary Ann is my favourite I have two of them plus an unfinished kit. The kit was almost the first from that company (1958) and it is still in production today in much modified form, well it has evolved as well.
When working on my latest model whenever I look up I see a Mary Ann and I smile.
I have included pictures from a week or so back. It would be nice to think that one boat had had a good catch. Unfortunately she was sinking quietly, another plank opened up maybe?
Roy
When men go fishing on a commercial basis they overtake the replacement rate of the fish.
In the North Sea we had the 'silver darlings' or herring, and they were fished out.
Actually when man goes to war, this benefits the fish!
During the 2nd. world war the fishing in the North Sea was very limited and over the 6 years the fishing stock recovered very well.
I have to say that fish is one of my favourite foods but I am still aware of the implications to the fish.
On a lighter note, my son and I have eaten fish and chips as a treat in many places.
In Australia NSW the favoured white fish is flathead, a really ugly fish but very tasty.
In Tasmania we had 'gummy shark' as the prefered white fish, also good, a bit like rock salmon (also from the small shark species).
My favourite though is skate, part of the Ray family.
As far as fishing boat models go I do like the North Sea Norwegian fishing boats of the 30's that have survived through to be tourist attractions now. They evolved as the result of years of fishing and bad weather.
The Billing kit Mary Ann is my favourite I have two of them plus an unfinished kit. The kit was almost the first from that company (1958) and it is still in production today in much modified form, well it has evolved as well.
When working on my latest model whenever I look up I see a Mary Ann and I smile.
I have included pictures from a week or so back. It would be nice to think that one boat had had a good catch. Unfortunately she was sinking quietly, another plank opened up maybe?
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
DuncanP
Mike Stoney
JockScott
Len1
BarryS
Wolle
Ronald
jumpugly
hermank
flaxbybuck
RossM
Peejay
💬 Re: MM337 Thorneycroft MTB Model Boat Plan
15 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 26 Views · 4 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
Sorry did not read the title!!! MM337 a very old plan!
This is only a guess but models of this era were built over strongly as they had to stand up to being gripped tightly between the knees to start the i/c engine.
You might want to review the strength of and weight and size of materials used.
I have just passed on a model not built by me but similar which is very heavy due to the above.
It will not plane with a powerful electric motor as it is too heavy to get the hull up, and part out of the water.
Roy
This is only a guess but models of this era were built over strongly as they had to stand up to being gripped tightly between the knees to start the i/c engine.
You might want to review the strength of and weight and size of materials used.
I have just passed on a model not built by me but similar which is very heavy due to the above.
It will not plane with a powerful electric motor as it is too heavy to get the hull up, and part out of the water.
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Doogle
Len1
Peejay
hermank
💬 Re: MM337 Thorneycroft MTB Model Boat Plan
16 days ago by 🇬🇧 roycv ( Vice Admiral)
Vice Admiral)✧ 43 Views · 3 Likes
Flag
💬 Add Comment
1938 was an excellent year! What Is the plan number you have?
Roy
Roy
▲
⟩⟩
Len1
Peejay
hermank
Login To
Remove Ads
Remove Ads
