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💬 Re: Fire Crash Tender
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Hi Heners2332,
You could support the underwater exposed length of the propeller shaft by making or fitting a "P" bracket (with a bearing) just in-front of the propeller.
This would give the shaft some good support that could help to reduce (or prevent) any vibration that would in turn extend the working life of the prop shaft bearings, if you are wary about replacing the shaft with a replacement that has a longer outer tube to support it properly.
I have restored a lot of model power boats over the years, and most of them have benefitted by fitting a brand new prop shaft assembly..
As robbob has suggested, propeller shafts can be removed from any glass fibre or wooden hulls without too much trouble.
My technique is to remove as much material as possible that is surrounding the shaft tube (such as old dried adhesive and filler) that can be removed using a file or a chisel etc.
After removing the "inner" shaft (and any coupling and motor etc), the end of the "outer" shaft can be hit with a hammer to produce a shock that is often enough to break any bond between the hull and the outer shaft.
The shaft can also be gripped firmly with pliers or a wrench and twisted back and forth to twist off any remaining bonded areas.
Once at this stage, the outer shaft tube can usually be turned and twisted out of the hull - sometimes after chipping away any large lumps of hardened glue or filler that expose themselves during the fracturing away from the hull.
A replacement shaft can be accurately aligned with the motor using a solid coupling of the same length as the intended (and advised) flexible coupling whilst it is being bonded into the hull.
A good epoxy resin (such as Araldite 24 hour) gives enough time to align everything before it sets, and masking tape fitted on the underside of the hull can be used to stop it "leaking" during its lengthy curing process.
Once the epoxy glue is set (I usually leave it over-night), a good glass fibre filler paste can be used to fill any gaps and to repair any minor damage that may have been caused when wrenching out the old shaft.
I usually also take the opportunity to fit (and blend-in) a triangular shaped piece of plywood between the underside of the hull and the new shaft outer.
This "fillet" gives the most solid shaft fitting that will not only look good but also help to reduce any vibration and noise that an unsupported shaft could give.
Bob.
You could support the underwater exposed length of the propeller shaft by making or fitting a "P" bracket (with a bearing) just in-front of the propeller.
This would give the shaft some good support that could help to reduce (or prevent) any vibration that would in turn extend the working life of the prop shaft bearings, if you are wary about replacing the shaft with a replacement that has a longer outer tube to support it properly.
I have restored a lot of model power boats over the years, and most of them have benefitted by fitting a brand new prop shaft assembly..
As robbob has suggested, propeller shafts can be removed from any glass fibre or wooden hulls without too much trouble.
My technique is to remove as much material as possible that is surrounding the shaft tube (such as old dried adhesive and filler) that can be removed using a file or a chisel etc.
After removing the "inner" shaft (and any coupling and motor etc), the end of the "outer" shaft can be hit with a hammer to produce a shock that is often enough to break any bond between the hull and the outer shaft.
The shaft can also be gripped firmly with pliers or a wrench and twisted back and forth to twist off any remaining bonded areas.
Once at this stage, the outer shaft tube can usually be turned and twisted out of the hull - sometimes after chipping away any large lumps of hardened glue or filler that expose themselves during the fracturing away from the hull.
A replacement shaft can be accurately aligned with the motor using a solid coupling of the same length as the intended (and advised) flexible coupling whilst it is being bonded into the hull.
A good epoxy resin (such as Araldite 24 hour) gives enough time to align everything before it sets, and masking tape fitted on the underside of the hull can be used to stop it "leaking" during its lengthy curing process.
Once the epoxy glue is set (I usually leave it over-night), a good glass fibre filler paste can be used to fill any gaps and to repair any minor damage that may have been caused when wrenching out the old shaft.
I usually also take the opportunity to fit (and blend-in) a triangular shaped piece of plywood between the underside of the hull and the new shaft outer.
This "fillet" gives the most solid shaft fitting that will not only look good but also help to reduce any vibration and noise that an unsupported shaft could give.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Fire Crash Tender
3 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi robob,
That is a really good video of the full size RAF Crash Tender in action that I have viewed several times. Thanks for sharing it with us Rob.👍
The RAF Fire and Rescue boat is very much a classic power boat that demonstrates its excellent performance that can be just as rewarding to enjoy when driving our Classic Model Power Boats at a similar speed.
Bob.
That is a really good video of the full size RAF Crash Tender in action that I have viewed several times. Thanks for sharing it with us Rob.👍
The RAF Fire and Rescue boat is very much a classic power boat that demonstrates its excellent performance that can be just as rewarding to enjoy when driving our Classic Model Power Boats at a similar speed.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
3 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Sea Rover - Sea Commander - Sea Queen.
The very well known Aerokits Sea Commander and Sea Queen kits were thought by some to be based on Norfolk Broads cruisers, but there is also a claim that they were both based on a full-sized boat called "Sea Rover" - that actually won an off-shore race in 1960/61 !
Not to be confused with the well known Aerokits Sea Rover model of the same name that has a different design!
The use of the same "Sea Rover" name by the different shaped model and the full size craft can be a bit confusing!
Maybe the Aerokits Sea Rover model kit came along after the Sea Commander and Sea Queen designs were already on sale and the name was used by Les Rowell as a "nod" to the boat that inspired what has turned out to be his most popular and well known design that has been available in two different sizes for over half a century.
Bob.
The very well known Aerokits Sea Commander and Sea Queen kits were thought by some to be based on Norfolk Broads cruisers, but there is also a claim that they were both based on a full-sized boat called "Sea Rover" - that actually won an off-shore race in 1960/61 !
Not to be confused with the well known Aerokits Sea Rover model of the same name that has a different design!
The use of the same "Sea Rover" name by the different shaped model and the full size craft can be a bit confusing!
Maybe the Aerokits Sea Rover model kit came along after the Sea Commander and Sea Queen designs were already on sale and the name was used by Les Rowell as a "nod" to the boat that inspired what has turned out to be his most popular and well known design that has been available in two different sizes for over half a century.
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💬 Re: Aerokits Sea Commander. Strange Handling ?
3 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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I have just re-found this short online video of a Sea Queen that suggests that the Aerokits Sea Commander and Sea Queen models were based on a boat called the "Sea Rover" that won an off-shore race in 1960/61...but it doesn't say which off-shore race......
...but I knew that I had heard this claim somewhere before, but I couldn't remember where I had heard it
If true, this would be a very good result for a model that some still think was based on a Norfolk Broads cruiser .
I only included this here as there was some mention about the suitability of this design for fast running when I was experiencing the handling problems that formed the reason for this thread.
Either way, my own Sea Commander (Kopy Kommander) is now running beautifully at speed and looks very much at home making white water!
Bob.
...but I knew that I had heard this claim somewhere before, but I couldn't remember where I had heard it
If true, this would be a very good result for a model that some still think was based on a Norfolk Broads cruiser .
I only included this here as there was some mention about the suitability of this design for fast running when I was experiencing the handling problems that formed the reason for this thread.
Either way, my own Sea Commander (Kopy Kommander) is now running beautifully at speed and looks very much at home making white water!
Bob.
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📝 120 years of modelboat history
4 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Chris,
I just noticed your mention of being interested in a glass fibre hull - there are two Precedent glass fibre kits here for the Huntsman 31 - I only need one of them, so let me know of you would like the other one.
Bob.
I just noticed your mention of being interested in a glass fibre hull - there are two Precedent glass fibre kits here for the Huntsman 31 - I only need one of them, so let me know of you would like the other one.
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📝 120 years of modelboat history
4 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Chris,
When I first started to make my scratch build version of the Swordsman, I based it on the Aerokits model and a copy the plans that you had drawn.
That was some years ago, and back then you mentioned the Swordsman 37 and I was immediately interested in building one.
Other projects and health issues have combined to prevent this project getting underway and I have no access to any of those superb limited edition glass fibre hulls - but if you should ever get tempted to draw some plans for one, I would be very pleased to build the prototype for you!
Merry Christmas!
Bob.
When I first started to make my scratch build version of the Swordsman, I based it on the Aerokits model and a copy the plans that you had drawn.
That was some years ago, and back then you mentioned the Swordsman 37 and I was immediately interested in building one.
Other projects and health issues have combined to prevent this project getting underway and I have no access to any of those superb limited edition glass fibre hulls - but if you should ever get tempted to draw some plans for one, I would be very pleased to build the prototype for you!
Merry Christmas!
Bob.
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💬 Re: Re: R.A.F Crash Tender
4 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Your model looks very convincing Boatshed and you have captured the authentic look of its original.
I am guessing that you had to make your own smaller scale fittings to use on this smaller scale craft?
Nice work, I look forward to seeing it when it is finished.
Bob.
I am guessing that you had to make your own smaller scale fittings to use on this smaller scale craft?
Nice work, I look forward to seeing it when it is finished.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
4 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Boatshed (Thomas ),
I share your interest in fast patrol and rescue craft as my main interest for many years has been Coastal Command and over the years I have gained a large reference library of this type of craft and have previously modelled and owned several different types of them.
Like yourself, I also like to see these craft (and other Classic Model Power Boats) being driven at a realistic speed and I really enjoy driving them as often as possible and making "white water" with them.
In more recent years I have broadened my interest to include other Classic Model Power Boats, and in particular those that I remember seeing on the water in the late 50's and through the 1960s when I first started my own journey of building and restoring them.
These days I still enjoy driving and restoring craft of this type, but I now find that I enjoy driving them even more, so actually running them as often as possible is now the part of the hobby that I probably enjoy the most.
With 10 Classic Model Power Boats actively in regular use and 15 or more Classic Power Boats currently either under construction or restoration I have hardly given up on spending far too much time in my workshop(shed), but I find that driving these craft helps to keep my "eye to hand" co-ordination working well.....something that I also sharpen-up every week by racing 1/12 scale Minis, Sports/GT and LMP cars as well as 1/10 Touring cars and off-road buggies in the better weather.
I no longer race large scale cars (they are now too heavy for me to carry!), but I raced them for many years both on-road (1/4 and 1/5th scale touring cars, sports/GT and Racing Trucks) and and 1/6 scale off-road biggies (2WD and 4WD).
.....so I guess I also share being a bit of a speed freak too - as far as r/c models are concerned !
Bob.
I share your interest in fast patrol and rescue craft as my main interest for many years has been Coastal Command and over the years I have gained a large reference library of this type of craft and have previously modelled and owned several different types of them.
Like yourself, I also like to see these craft (and other Classic Model Power Boats) being driven at a realistic speed and I really enjoy driving them as often as possible and making "white water" with them.
In more recent years I have broadened my interest to include other Classic Model Power Boats, and in particular those that I remember seeing on the water in the late 50's and through the 1960s when I first started my own journey of building and restoring them.
These days I still enjoy driving and restoring craft of this type, but I now find that I enjoy driving them even more, so actually running them as often as possible is now the part of the hobby that I probably enjoy the most.
With 10 Classic Model Power Boats actively in regular use and 15 or more Classic Power Boats currently either under construction or restoration I have hardly given up on spending far too much time in my workshop(shed), but I find that driving these craft helps to keep my "eye to hand" co-ordination working well.....something that I also sharpen-up every week by racing 1/12 scale Minis, Sports/GT and LMP cars as well as 1/10 Touring cars and off-road buggies in the better weather.
I no longer race large scale cars (they are now too heavy for me to carry!), but I raced them for many years both on-road (1/4 and 1/5th scale touring cars, sports/GT and Racing Trucks) and and 1/6 scale off-road biggies (2WD and 4WD).
.....so I guess I also share being a bit of a speed freak too - as far as r/c models are concerned !
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
7 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Dutton73,
Here is the picture of my Sea Scout - as promised.
Bob.
Here is the picture of my Sea Scout - as promised.
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17 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Ronald,
I just use the closest Former (bulkhead) template to give me the correct shape to cut out at each end of the boat stand and allow for the thickness of the bottom skins.
In the case of the Sprite Plus, the ends of the stand locate part-way between Formers, so I averaged the bottom line (that will fit against the skin) between the Formers that are in front and behind the ends and it worked out perfectly.
A cut-out to clear the prop shaft at the desired location was added so that the hull sits really neatly on the stand.
Once the foam pipe insulation is added to each end of the boat stand it does remove the need to be quite so accurate with the cut shapes - but it is nice to know that mine fit well with the boat in the chosen position on the stand before the foams are added.
Bob.
I just use the closest Former (bulkhead) template to give me the correct shape to cut out at each end of the boat stand and allow for the thickness of the bottom skins.
In the case of the Sprite Plus, the ends of the stand locate part-way between Formers, so I averaged the bottom line (that will fit against the skin) between the Formers that are in front and behind the ends and it worked out perfectly.
A cut-out to clear the prop shaft at the desired location was added so that the hull sits really neatly on the stand.
Once the foam pipe insulation is added to each end of the boat stand it does remove the need to be quite so accurate with the cut shapes - but it is nice to know that mine fit well with the boat in the chosen position on the stand before the foams are added.
Bob.
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📝 RTTL2755 having a run out
18 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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She picks her skirts up and runs very nicely 👍
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
19 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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That's quite a collection of model boats you have there Boatshed.
I especially like the two unmade Classic Model Power Boat kits of the Aerokits Sea Commander and the MFA Spearfish.
The two Taycol electric motors are classic's too!
Please let us know how the Sea Queen goes with either of the Taycol motors fitted as this is a combination that could have been used in the 1960's - especially with the vintage McGregor 2 channel radio control system - that could be very interesting !
Bob.
I especially like the two unmade Classic Model Power Boat kits of the Aerokits Sea Commander and the MFA Spearfish.
The two Taycol electric motors are classic's too!
Please let us know how the Sea Queen goes with either of the Taycol motors fitted as this is a combination that could have been used in the 1960's - especially with the vintage McGregor 2 channel radio control system - that could be very interesting !
Bob.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
21 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Doug,
Nice video of your restored Sea Scout in action and planing nicely 👍
Bob.
Nice video of your restored Sea Scout in action and planing nicely 👍
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21 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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I am in the process of "knocking-up" a basic (very basic) stand to put the Sprite Plus on, because when I am working on it (now that it has the bottom skins fitted) - I cannot hold the hull by its keel in the vice any longer!
My "boat stands" look just like the little wooden orange boxes that used to be seen in the green grocers years ago (anyone remember them?) - except those were probably made out of better wood than I use !
I always use scrap wood to make my boat stands from, which may seem a little bit strange to those that spend hours designing and crafting beautifully elegant stands to sit and display their model boats on (some can be works of art in themselves).
My boat basic boat stands are more likely to get a gravel rash from the car park than to be used to display an elegant model boat - but they are very practical and work well enough in the workshop(shed) or beside the lake when they can also be handy for carrying some basic oddments in that may be needed.
Anyway, I am splitting a length of rough-cut square timber to make a pair of sides for the stand, and some plywood has been gained from our r/c model truck club when the garage unit that had been used to practice reversing manoeuvres in etc became surplus to requirements!
Once the stand is put together I can start to make the parts for a good solid engine mount and get a motor and coupling fitted.
Bob.
My "boat stands" look just like the little wooden orange boxes that used to be seen in the green grocers years ago (anyone remember them?) - except those were probably made out of better wood than I use !
I always use scrap wood to make my boat stands from, which may seem a little bit strange to those that spend hours designing and crafting beautifully elegant stands to sit and display their model boats on (some can be works of art in themselves).
My boat basic boat stands are more likely to get a gravel rash from the car park than to be used to display an elegant model boat - but they are very practical and work well enough in the workshop(shed) or beside the lake when they can also be handy for carrying some basic oddments in that may be needed.
Anyway, I am splitting a length of rough-cut square timber to make a pair of sides for the stand, and some plywood has been gained from our r/c model truck club when the garage unit that had been used to practice reversing manoeuvres in etc became surplus to requirements!
Once the stand is put together I can start to make the parts for a good solid engine mount and get a motor and coupling fitted.
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💬 Re: Vintage sea scout ?
22 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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There is no price for regaining an important part of your family history, but £60 is not too bad a price to pay these days in any case - especially if you bought it from an antiques shop!
If you decide to restore it, it will make a very nice model to see afloat, but you may choose just to repair it and clean it and keep it as it is.
A good compromise would be to sympathetically repair and gently restore it so that it looks like it did when your dad made it for your uncle, but you could also add a modern r/c system that could be hidden enough not to be obtrusive and enjoy sailing it.
Either way, I am pleased that you found the actual boat that your dad built all those years ago, it is a true Classic Model Power Boat.
Bob.
If you decide to restore it, it will make a very nice model to see afloat, but you may choose just to repair it and clean it and keep it as it is.
A good compromise would be to sympathetically repair and gently restore it so that it looks like it did when your dad made it for your uncle, but you could also add a modern r/c system that could be hidden enough not to be obtrusive and enjoy sailing it.
Either way, I am pleased that you found the actual boat that your dad built all those years ago, it is a true Classic Model Power Boat.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
22 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Aerokits Sea Scout.
This Classic Model Power Boat is only two feet long, but it has a lot of character and is a model that is not seen anything like often enough these days.
I have one that is waiting for some attention but it is basically OK as it was not a size of model that was too often powered by diesel or glow plug engine, so most are not fuel soaked and easy to work on.
Invariably they were powered by a small early type electric motor (often a Mabuchi)
or even an old KaKo (if my memory serve me correctly?) and others of similar size and power..
I will dig a picture out of my Sea Scout and add it later......but hopefully a better one will come along first and beat me to it!
Bob.
This Classic Model Power Boat is only two feet long, but it has a lot of character and is a model that is not seen anything like often enough these days.
I have one that is waiting for some attention but it is basically OK as it was not a size of model that was too often powered by diesel or glow plug engine, so most are not fuel soaked and easy to work on.
Invariably they were powered by a small early type electric motor (often a Mabuchi)
or even an old KaKo (if my memory serve me correctly?) and others of similar size and power..
I will dig a picture out of my Sea Scout and add it later......but hopefully a better one will come along first and beat me to it!
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💬 Re: Vintage sea scout ?
22 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Dutton,
The Classic Model Power Boat that you have acquired is indeed an Aerokits Sea Scout.
I have one just the same that is in need a bit of TLC.
Yours is probably in better condition than mine, and yours has more detail on it as well, so it can be made into a really nice r/c model.
Please add it to the Classic Model Power Boats thread on here as you go along as it will help to keep the thread growing as a superb reference point for anyone interested in Classic Model Power Boats like yours where we can all learn and help each other.
Given the type of motor and layout that you have, I think it could well be a model that was made sometime in the late 1960's - early 1970's - just like mine!
Good luck with your restoration .
Bob.
The Classic Model Power Boat that you have acquired is indeed an Aerokits Sea Scout.
I have one just the same that is in need a bit of TLC.
Yours is probably in better condition than mine, and yours has more detail on it as well, so it can be made into a really nice r/c model.
Please add it to the Classic Model Power Boats thread on here as you go along as it will help to keep the thread growing as a superb reference point for anyone interested in Classic Model Power Boats like yours where we can all learn and help each other.
Given the type of motor and layout that you have, I think it could well be a model that was made sometime in the late 1960's - early 1970's - just like mine!
Good luck with your restoration .
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
23 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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That's a nice addition to your fleet Harry.
Thanks for sharing it with us here,
38" long is a good size Classic Model Power Boat. Big enough to be used under most conditions and small enough to be able to carry, store and transport .
I have not seen a Chris Craft Commuter before - was it built from a Sterling kit?
Bob.
Thanks for sharing it with us here,
38" long is a good size Classic Model Power Boat. Big enough to be used under most conditions and small enough to be able to carry, store and transport .
I have not seen a Chris Craft Commuter before - was it built from a Sterling kit?
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23 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Aero-Naut Victoria.
This Classic Model Power Boat has been around for a long time, but has never been seen on this thread before.....so here it is!
Based on a 1960's luxury motor yacht at 700mm long it is a nice sized model.
Bob.
This Classic Model Power Boat has been around for a long time, but has never been seen on this thread before.....so here it is!
Based on a 1960's luxury motor yacht at 700mm long it is a nice sized model.
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💬 Re: A BIT MORE PROGRESS....
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Good progress Nick - you should be out playing with the goldfish in your garden boating pond in no time at all 🤣
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24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Thanks Harry,
All the information I could ever need about the Aerokits Patrol Torpedo Boat.
Many thanks 👍
Bob.
All the information I could ever need about the Aerokits Patrol Torpedo Boat.
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Aerokits Torpedo Boat
I remember seeing this boat being advertised in one of the Keil Kraft catalogues in the 1960's, but I have never seen one in real life, so I am guessing that it did not sell very well?
Was it 40" long?
Does anyone own one of these or have any pictures of one as I have lost my old KK catalogue and so I have no reference for it any longer?
A set of plans would be good to see as well.!
I saw this boat of sale on eBay recently, and I did wonder if perhaps it is a genuine Aerokits Torpedo Boat?
Can anyone help?
Bob.
I remember seeing this boat being advertised in one of the Keil Kraft catalogues in the 1960's, but I have never seen one in real life, so I am guessing that it did not sell very well?
Was it 40" long?
Does anyone own one of these or have any pictures of one as I have lost my old KK catalogue and so I have no reference for it any longer?
A set of plans would be good to see as well.!
I saw this boat of sale on eBay recently, and I did wonder if perhaps it is a genuine Aerokits Torpedo Boat?
Can anyone help?
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📝 Bluebird
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Yes John, I absolutely agree that this would have been a far better use for the money .
Bob.
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📝 Bluebird
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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It would seem to me that Bluebird is not likely to ever run again safely at anything like its top speed........and maybe that is just as well?
Having the Bluebird reconstructed to look something like it did just before that fateful run may be the best option available, and it gives us all something that we can see and enjoy in the future.
If anyone really wanted to make a serious attempt at achieving a 300mph plus speed on water with a replica of the original Bluebird it could be engineered from new with the hindsight and advantages of todays engineering knowledge and materials ........but why bother?
The same amount of time, cash and effort could be spent making a totally different new design of water speed boat that could be even faster.........it probably wouldn't have anything like the appeal of Bluebird, or achieve anything like the support that the iconic original has.....but it could benefit from the interest that this sad Bluebird story has generated?
Bob.
Having the Bluebird reconstructed to look something like it did just before that fateful run may be the best option available, and it gives us all something that we can see and enjoy in the future.
If anyone really wanted to make a serious attempt at achieving a 300mph plus speed on water with a replica of the original Bluebird it could be engineered from new with the hindsight and advantages of todays engineering knowledge and materials ........but why bother?
The same amount of time, cash and effort could be spent making a totally different new design of water speed boat that could be even faster.........it probably wouldn't have anything like the appeal of Bluebird, or achieve anything like the support that the iconic original has.....but it could benefit from the interest that this sad Bluebird story has generated?
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📝 Early Radio Control Experiences
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Taycol Standard?
I have just received my first Taycol motor, that I purchased on eBay for the princely sum of £18.94 including post and pack.
Unfortunately it was delivered by EVRI - a courier that does not have a very good record or reputation in this area.
The package was late arriving and so it arrived when I was away, and in true local EVRI fashion it was dumped on the doorstep in the pouring rain and left there unattended over the weekend!
Our local postman found it this morning and put it in the shed for us (the designated "safe place" that EVRI should have used) with a note to let us know that he had placed it into safe keeping for us but that it was already soaking wet! Very kind of him as he has nothing to do with EVRI ......and I wish I didn't either !
If it had been sent by GPO it would have got here much faster and been given a lot more care - it would not have been dumped on a wet doorstep and left unattended !
Anyway, the seller did pack it well and as I cut away the Gaffa Tape wrapping that totally mummified it, the water run out and the soggy corrugated card that was wrapped around it was gently scraped away with my thumbnail.
I believe that the motor is a Taycol Standard?
I am not into electronics, but I guess that the cracked cylinder on the front of the motor was a type of "capacitor" that had been fitted to try to prevent interference from the motor affecting some other electronic device - such as a radio control receiver?
Because the grey coloured "cracked cylinder" clearly looks like it is "past its best", I doubt that removing it is likely to have any adverse affect?
The motor will be allowed to dry-out gently and the "capacitor" will be removed before I strip and clean the motor to tidy it up before adding any power to see it if actually runs.
Bob.
I have just received my first Taycol motor, that I purchased on eBay for the princely sum of £18.94 including post and pack.
Unfortunately it was delivered by EVRI - a courier that does not have a very good record or reputation in this area.
The package was late arriving and so it arrived when I was away, and in true local EVRI fashion it was dumped on the doorstep in the pouring rain and left there unattended over the weekend!
Our local postman found it this morning and put it in the shed for us (the designated "safe place" that EVRI should have used) with a note to let us know that he had placed it into safe keeping for us but that it was already soaking wet! Very kind of him as he has nothing to do with EVRI ......and I wish I didn't either !
If it had been sent by GPO it would have got here much faster and been given a lot more care - it would not have been dumped on a wet doorstep and left unattended !
Anyway, the seller did pack it well and as I cut away the Gaffa Tape wrapping that totally mummified it, the water run out and the soggy corrugated card that was wrapped around it was gently scraped away with my thumbnail.
I believe that the motor is a Taycol Standard?
I am not into electronics, but I guess that the cracked cylinder on the front of the motor was a type of "capacitor" that had been fitted to try to prevent interference from the motor affecting some other electronic device - such as a radio control receiver?
Because the grey coloured "cracked cylinder" clearly looks like it is "past its best", I doubt that removing it is likely to have any adverse affect?
The motor will be allowed to dry-out gently and the "capacitor" will be removed before I strip and clean the motor to tidy it up before adding any power to see it if actually runs.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Roger,
The engine looks like it is an old diesel engine, but from the picture I cannot identify it for you.......but it could be an ED Hunter?
The ED Hunter would be the right sort of age and with its 3.5cc capacity it was one of the engines that was favoured for boats of that size at the time.
I can't see clearly through the "murk" of the "servo"picture, but my guess is that it is not a servo, but some sort of escapement suggesting that the boat was run on an old type single channel radio in its past - perhaps?
Good luck restoring your Aerokits model boat - something that I have enjoyed doing many times over the years, and the RAF Crash Tender is a really nice model when it is finished that runs nicely.
Bob.
The engine looks like it is an old diesel engine, but from the picture I cannot identify it for you.......but it could be an ED Hunter?
The ED Hunter would be the right sort of age and with its 3.5cc capacity it was one of the engines that was favoured for boats of that size at the time.
I can't see clearly through the "murk" of the "servo"picture, but my guess is that it is not a servo, but some sort of escapement suggesting that the boat was run on an old type single channel radio in its past - perhaps?
Good luck restoring your Aerokits model boat - something that I have enjoyed doing many times over the years, and the RAF Crash Tender is a really nice model when it is finished that runs nicely.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Sea Queen VICTORIA
24 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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Good News Stephen - I am pleased to hear that your Sea Queen went well 👍
I ran my Sea Commander (copy) on the same day and it ran well too, so now I have got that one fully sorted, I can turn my attention to its bigger sister.
My Sea Queen needs some attention but hopefully I will get to look at it in time to run it next season (only a few weeks away!).
Bob.
I ran my Sea Commander (copy) on the same day and it ran well too, so now I have got that one fully sorted, I can turn my attention to its bigger sister.
My Sea Queen needs some attention but hopefully I will get to look at it in time to run it next season (only a few weeks away!).
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💬 Re: Aerokits Sea Commander. Strange Handling ?
25 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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I ran my Sea Commander (Kopy Kommander) yesterday afternoon with the keel now almost completely removed and it performed flawlessly.
The boat is now a pleasure to drive and has no longer has the tendency to nose dive when turning RIGHT into choppy water or a wake.
It has taken a long time and lots of “false leads” as every suggestion offered was followed-up and tested in the search for a solution, but the most simple fix was to chop-off the keel and that was the only one that made a substantial difference.
The strakes that I added during the building of this Sea Commander replica do not affect the nose diving and so they can stay and continue (in my opinion) to enhance the appearance of the boat.
The wedge that was added to the stern makes no real difference either, and so it has been left on as it is now part of the history of of the boat, and in its developed “grooved” form it looks as good as the strakes.
I have left the commercially available “large” size rudder fitted (I forgot to refit the “medium: size rudder) so that is how it is running now, but I didn’t think that the change of rudder size (or the use of a “shaped” rudder) made much difference either.
The two layers of roof lead that I cut and shaped to hook behind the rudder post have stayed as I like the attitude of the boat as it rides when it is planing.
The two large 2C 7600mah LiPo cells remain either side of the motor to give balance and ballast so that the boat “sits” nicely in the water.
The boat has still only ever been run with a single 2C LiPo connected (the second LiPo is only carried to balance the boat left to right) and this produces plenty of power to use on the small Southport boating lake.
The only remaining “curiosity” that remains to be resolved is the “gurgling” sound that comes from the propeller when the rudder is turned (either left or right).
This “gurgling” sound is best heard when the boat is being driven closely away from me, but once identified it can be heard at any speed and anywhere when the rudder is deflected to the left or the right.
The may (or may not) be caused by the three rows of strakes on either side of the hull (?) and it does not detract from the boats much improved handling in any way……..but it does remain as a curiosity.
When the chance to test drive another Sea Commander arises (it is unlikely to have any strakes fitted) I will listen and observe to see if it also has a similar “gurgling” sound when the boat is turned to the left or right (but disappears when the rudder is returned to the straight ahead position).
Bob.
The boat is now a pleasure to drive and has no longer has the tendency to nose dive when turning RIGHT into choppy water or a wake.
It has taken a long time and lots of “false leads” as every suggestion offered was followed-up and tested in the search for a solution, but the most simple fix was to chop-off the keel and that was the only one that made a substantial difference.
The strakes that I added during the building of this Sea Commander replica do not affect the nose diving and so they can stay and continue (in my opinion) to enhance the appearance of the boat.
The wedge that was added to the stern makes no real difference either, and so it has been left on as it is now part of the history of of the boat, and in its developed “grooved” form it looks as good as the strakes.
I have left the commercially available “large” size rudder fitted (I forgot to refit the “medium: size rudder) so that is how it is running now, but I didn’t think that the change of rudder size (or the use of a “shaped” rudder) made much difference either.
The two layers of roof lead that I cut and shaped to hook behind the rudder post have stayed as I like the attitude of the boat as it rides when it is planing.
The two large 2C 7600mah LiPo cells remain either side of the motor to give balance and ballast so that the boat “sits” nicely in the water.
The boat has still only ever been run with a single 2C LiPo connected (the second LiPo is only carried to balance the boat left to right) and this produces plenty of power to use on the small Southport boating lake.
The only remaining “curiosity” that remains to be resolved is the “gurgling” sound that comes from the propeller when the rudder is turned (either left or right).
This “gurgling” sound is best heard when the boat is being driven closely away from me, but once identified it can be heard at any speed and anywhere when the rudder is deflected to the left or the right.
The may (or may not) be caused by the three rows of strakes on either side of the hull (?) and it does not detract from the boats much improved handling in any way……..but it does remain as a curiosity.
When the chance to test drive another Sea Commander arises (it is unlikely to have any strakes fitted) I will listen and observe to see if it also has a similar “gurgling” sound when the boat is turned to the left or right (but disappears when the rudder is returned to the straight ahead position).
Bob.
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📝 Bluebird
25 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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It would be nice if the Bluebird had been mechanically “sorted” before it went to London Ed.
I think the two parties concerned should start to work together and stop fighting a war that neither can win without the other.
Bob.
I think the two parties concerned should start to work together and stop fighting a war that neither can win without the other.
Bob.
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💬 Re: Classic Model Power Boats
25 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Vice Admiral)
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RAF Range Safety Launch. (often confused with the RAF Rescue and target Towing Launch RTTL) 🙄
I have long been an admirer of the RAF Range Safety Launch since I first saw one powered by a Gannet 4 stroke engine sometime in the 1960’s.
The one that I pictured today at the Southport club is owned by a friend of ours called Jim.
He did not build it new, but he has owned it for a long time after picking it up at a car boot sale (!) and has tidied it up over the years that he has owned it to look like it does now.
Jims Classic Model Power Boat is about 40” long and was probably built from the same plans as the one that I first saw all those years ago.
Now electric powered this is a lovely looking model that makes white water and performs as it should.
Bob
I have long been an admirer of the RAF Range Safety Launch since I first saw one powered by a Gannet 4 stroke engine sometime in the 1960’s.
The one that I pictured today at the Southport club is owned by a friend of ours called Jim.
He did not build it new, but he has owned it for a long time after picking it up at a car boot sale (!) and has tidied it up over the years that he has owned it to look like it does now.
Jims Classic Model Power Boat is about 40” long and was probably built from the same plans as the one that I first saw all those years ago.
Now electric powered this is a lovely looking model that makes white water and performs as it should.
Bob
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