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    ๐Ÿ“ Time for Epoxy
    23 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Once the hull was fully planked it was time to make it fair and to give it some strength.

    With a hull thickness of 1.5mm the hull needs some reinforcement. The first task was to get a base coat of epoxy onto the hull. I used West with 206 hardener, with a workshop temperature of 14-15 degrees this gave a working time of 25-30 minutes.

    The base coat had West 410 fairing microfibres added so that the sanding to a fair hull was pretty straightforward and the addition of the 410 allows a good feather edge.

    With the hull reasonably fair it was time to do the job I'd been putting off, cutting the aperture for the bow rudder. I doubt this will have a major impact on turning the HMS Medway Queen as it is to scale, but it's an interesting challenge to get it to work.

    Once the bow rudder aperture was cut I could start to cover the hull in epoxy and e-glass. To try and make life easy with the minimum of fairing to do at the end of the epoxying process I added a daily laminate, starting with 86g biaxial cloth, then a 48g cloth followed by a 25g cloth and finally a layer of surface tissue.

    The West Epoxy has colour granules added so ends up grey, hopefully meaning I don't have to apply lots of paint just to cover the hull colour.

    Just need to let the final coat cure then hopefully a thin layer fairing epoxy before cutting the holes for portholes then paint before releasing from the build board.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    After a break while more timber was delivered the hull is finally planked. 60 planks in all, has the expected lumps, bumps and hollows so after some longboarding and fairing will be ready for epoxy & e-glass.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Doug

    It will be painted as the skin thickness is only 1.5mm so does need reinforcing with epoxy and glass, trying to keep the hull light but strong.

    There will be some nice varnished timber on display and deck will be done the same as my BYMS with 3mm x 1mm mahogany planks with 0.25mm black styrene as caulking, all varnished. The varnished deck is a step away from authenticity but breaks up a sea of grey.

    Have enough proper varnish to keep me busy with the larger boat in the workshop that still needs a last few coats of varnish when it gets a bit warmer.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Neil,
    I suspected it might be mahog๐Ÿ‘Really nice work๐Ÿ˜€
    Ya know, that would look really really great flattened off and varnished๐Ÿ˜€
    How about turning her into a 4 masted schooner? The hull has the sleek lines for that. she could look sooo majestic on the wet stuff๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Would be a great shame to cover ever scarcer mahog with black or grey paint.๐Ÿ˜ญ
    I would seal it with Deluxe Materials Ezekote resin, diluted with 20% water.
    Then two coats of Ezekote neat. Flatten with 180 wet & dry.
    Then work down to 1500 -2000/3000 W&D and then spray varnish.
    Flatten with 3000 W/D and polish.
    You'll end up with a hard shell finish with the look and feel of glass๐Ÿ˜Š
    And all the grandeur of the wood grain will be on show.
    (For the coup de grace; I polish with auto surface finishing paste.)
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Neilw, I was also wondering what type of wood it was. I had thought about mahogany but was doubtful because the one we use has a reddish shade. I was also a little surprised by the coarse grain of the wood.
    I understand from what you say that it was hard work but it turned out well.
    Don't you intend to do the second planking?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Doug

    The timber is mainly 5mm x 1.5mm mahogany with a mix of 2mm x 1.5mm and 3mm x 1.5.mm on the turn of the bilge. As it is only available in 1000mm lengths I had to scarf joint many planks as the hull is 1.2m.

    Glad this part is finished.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    What a planker!๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
    (Maybe you're too young Neil to remember the old TV series 'Only Fools and Horses'.)
    Looks like it would be a shame to paint over that wood.
    What wood type is it?
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Plankety Plank
    29 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Rear Admiral)
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    Looks great Neil!
    ๐Ÿ“ HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Following the build of my BYMS and the restoration of my Zambezi River Gunboat sternwheeler I was looking for a new build.

    Obviously have been aware of the PS Medway Queen so the next project had to combine paddle wheels with minesweeping so HMS Medway Queen is now in build.

    I bought a 3D printer in the summer and have had lots of fun printing various trimarans, an air boat and a pontoon boat along with a rock crawler, trailers and a range of model boat fittings. The plan is to scratch build the hull and print the paddle wheels and as many fittings as possible.

    I bought a set of modellers plans from the Medway Queen Preservation Society a few months ago and found that some of the dimensions were getting to be unreadable as the plans have been copied many times, this was a major issue with the paddle wheel plans as I couldn't read the dimensions for the wheel diameter and eccentric diameter. After emailing the society to see if they had a better copy they mentioned they had all the original plans in their archive and I was welcome to inspect and photograph anything I needed.

    We were on holiday in Kent in September so added to trip to the Medway Queen and had a great day on board and examining the plans, highly recommend a trip to see her - details at

    https://www.medwayqueen.co.uk/
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jump,
    My German mates have an expression for that.
    'Es gibt nichts was es nicht gibt'.
    Basically meaning 'There is nothing that is not.'
    Sort of covering all bases๐Ÿ˜
    Cheers, Tschรผss, Caio, Salut shipmates wherever you hang out.
    Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    USS Wolverine looks great, though at 1:48 might be a bit too big at over 10โ€™.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Rear Admiral)
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    Will wonders never cease!!!!!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    A Paddler Carrier! Whooda thought it๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Original built 1912 as a luxury Cruise Paddler 'Seaandbee', converted to a Training (Freshwater) Carrier, operating on Lake Michigan in 1942.
    Second USN ship to carry the name 'Wolverine'.
    Nickname for the state of Michigan apparently.
    You learn something new every day๐Ÿ˜‰
    (Fรผr Wolle und Michel; Man learnt nie aus!)
    Cheers All, happy paddling. Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wolverine_(IX-64)
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Vice Admiral)
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    I suppose the ultimate paddle steamer has to be the USS Wolverine! Check it out for a surprise!
    Roy
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง neilw ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    All the paddle wheel components are 3D printed using Carbon Fibre PLA, the float shafts are 2mm stainless threaded bar, everything else is fixed with M1.7 screws.

    It took a couple of goes to get the right diameter holes printed to get floats to rotate without friction.

    The paddle wheels are based on Graupner ones, I scaled it to 1:48, increased the float width to be correct for the Medway Queen then increased the thickness and the width of the eccentric rods to be as large as possible without jamming the rotation.

    They have been tested in my test tank and run at higher speeds than they will encounter when in use on the boat. If they fail I have a backup plan of printing a set of non-feathering paddle wheels.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ RPLedm ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Very nice paddles.
    What method did you use to make the great circle rims?
    What materials did you use?
    How long did it take you?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Neilw, another ship model with paddle wheels is added, fantastic. Great start.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Rear Admiral)
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    Whoa! That's a serious build! Keep us looped in Neil!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Commodore)
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    I wish you every success with your project! Really crazy great ship model!
    I will follow you!
    Best regards
    Michel-C.
    Ps: Please enter the mass of your project
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Medway Queen
    1 month ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi looks good and an interesting project.
    As far as construction goes can you note when you remove the planked hull from the baseboard whether it sort of springs off? I have twice had hulls done in this way slightly hog when they are removed from the board, perhaps only by an 1/8th of an inch over the entire length but the planking does bring with it a lot of tension.

    Regards
    Roy


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