Or start a new website of your own for your own interests. Why do we have to accommodate stuff that has no bearing on model boats?

or start a new forum section for general knowledge.
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Nickthesteam..... that's the point. Scroll on by takes two days.

Brightwork, that's a bit unfair, if you don't want to participate scroll on by, there is no need for unpleasentness.....

Hey Pat, the grp whalers were usually fitted with an Enfield HO2, two cylinder horizontally opposed air cooled diesel, initially hand cranked but some of the later ones were fitted with electric start. Transmission was either an Enfield box or a Hurth hydraulic gearbox... I still have a load of Enfield engine spares...

Picture of a 3 in 1 whaler

A picture of a montague whaler

Good Evening Mariners

The answers

Kitchen Gear - The Kitchen rudder is the familiar name for "Kitchen's Patent Reversing Rudders", a combination rudder and directional propulsion delivery system for relatively slow speed displacement boats which was invented in the early 20th century by John G. A. Kitchen. The rudder consists of a pair of slightly conical (usually but not always - designs vary), semi-cones mounted on a pivot either side of the propeller with the long axis of the cone running fore and aft when the helm is midships. They are pivoted about a vertical axis such that the cone may close off the propeller thrust aft of the propeller, directing the thrust forwards and thus creating motion astern. The point being the propeller rotates all the time in the same ditection even when stationary.

The seaboats name was indeed a Whaler but this came in two forms

a. The Montagu whaler was the standard seaboat of the Royal Navy between 1910–1970, it was a clinker built 27 by 6 feet (8.2 m × 1.8 m) open boat, which could be pulled by oars or powered by sail – a shorter version of 25 feet (7.6 m) was also built. It was double-ended; having a pointed stem and stern. Retired Rear Admiral The Honourable Victor Montagu proposed the design.

The Royal Navy - and associated Commonwealth navies such as the Royal Australian Navy, Royal New Zealand Navy - used the whalers until the 1960s. They were used for service, training and recreation. Whaler races were organised between ships and ports; minor royalty often handed out the trophies.[1] After service, some were passed on to other groups, including the Sea Cadets. The sailing rig involed a standing lug main and a mizzen sail.


b. 3 in 1 Whaler was basically the same hull as the Montague whaler but made of GRP but fitted with a diesel engine - they could also be propelled by oars or a sail but this was a bermuden main sail.

Well done Nick - can you be more specific about the Whaler ?

27' Whaler.
Kitchen gear, used to steer and control fore and aft movement utilising half "buckets".

I used to coxswain 30ft launches with Kitchen gear -great control with the bucket swings. Answer 2, I used to sail them -they are whalers.

Try the question with the three ships you should manage that - don’t want you to feel you have not done well in the questions

We are all learning - you the English terms and me a bit of italian🤗🤗🤗

A lot of the naval term in English can be quite strange but others have been adopted and become every day sayings for a lot of folks - thing like ship shaped and Bristol fashioned - the bitter end - the list is endless

I'm sorry about this question (and many similar ones), Pat, but I'm having trouble understanding specific technical naval terms in English.

When I read the answers, I realize that if I'd had the questions in Italian, I would have answered almost every time.

Let me tell you something: I don't know if it's the same for you English speakers. Italian nautical terms seem grotesque and strange to most people here in Italy and are known only by those in the know or by enthusiasts. They have no connection to common words.

What way it you quoted to me - near but no cigar LOL - answer later tonight - there is one person I can think of taht should know the correct answers so we will see if he replies

Double ender?
Push me pull you?😁

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Well done anyway Doug - I will wait to see if anyone else answer before I post the answers

Sorry Pat. I only know Whaler as a generic term.🤔

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Well done Doug mostly right but two types of Whaler where is use in the RN - which one am I taking about ?

1 A type of steering gear, using buckets to redirect the propeller thrust.

2 A Whaler.

Ciao Pat.🤔

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Hi Pat. Sorry no idea on the answers to your questions as I have no naval experience whatsoever. I look forward to the answers.