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    Revell 1/72 scale Flower Class Corvette
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    📝 Better, she’s starting to look the part…at least the hull is😁
    1 day ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Just finished spraying Dickys hull with the lighter blue I acquired. Tell me what y’all think then I’ll own up to what I painted her with….😁

    💬 Re: Better, she’s starting to look the part…at least the hull is😁
    1 day ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    MUCH better Cash👍

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    📝 Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    5 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I decided to start slowly building up some of the upper deck structures while waiting for the (hopefully) right, or “closer to right than what I have now” paint to come in. I had already started building up the aft deckhouse, and was in the process of building up some of the smaller detail pieces when I decided to look at the gun tub, and realized that the Sackville has her aft gun tub almost at the very aft end of the house, whereas the kit boat, the Snowberry has hers about 2/3s of the way fwd. AND….the gun tub sits on a rounded, tapered mount which is molded into the roof of the aft house.
    *Cue sad music…an empty whisky bottle is on the workbench..the modeler reaches for the wheelhouse,holds it in his hands and screams why? WHYYYYYY!!?*
    Okay, so I’m being a bit dramatic. And…I can’t bitch. This is all on me, as I was, and still am bound and determined to build Dicky, simply because I want to run up to my buddys 1/72 scale U-Boat and yell “Give’em hell Dicky!!”
    Anyway, I’ve decided to go forward with Dicky. To that end I had to cut the mounting post off of the roof, which left a roughly 12mm hole that I’m having to fill, plus the scuffing around the hole from the er….ah..”procedure”. I cut a piece of 2mm thick plasticard to fill the hole, tacked it in place, then backed it up on the inside of the roof with an approximately 1” square piece of the same plasticard, then sanded and filled. Once dry I’ll sand and paint.
    There yall have it. I have a very long way to go. I dont have any plan views of the Sackville as she sits now, but I’ve found a few good renderings, pics, and one scale model donated to a museum to go from. This boat will likely not be perfect, some details may be omitted for easier building and servicing, not to mention my sanity, but in the end, I hope to present y’all with pics of a Flower class that co-starred in Greyhound.
    Pray for me yalll…🤣
    Cash
    PS: the first pic is the scale model I’m using for reference.

    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    4 days ago by 🇨🇭 Mike Stoney ( Commodore)
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    Hello everyone, hello Cash!
    Wow, we have some really great posts here!
    Soon some members of this homepage will become real authors! Yes, and luckily we have no duties on these great contributions!
    One day, one of you will surely write a book here with the title:
    My crafting stories!
    You all are just great, I can't say that often enough.

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    4 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    By the way y’all…thanks for all the help in the way of pics, plan views, comments, and ideas. You guys are the best!! Just don’t give me too hard a time if I screw it up🤣
    Thanks again.
    Cash
    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    4 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Doug, I have a much lighter blue very close to what you posted, should be here Wednesday. If there’s no reaction to my paint test piece then I’ll redo the blue on the hull.
    Frühschoppen, huh? Sounds good! If I’m ever up that way again I’ll take you up on it. And if any of y’all are down my way, we can do all sorts of different cuisines…but I’m going here when I hit 65 next year..

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    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    4 days ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,
    Sackville started her career as a short forecastle Flower.
    In 1944 she was refitted and heavily modified: new propulsion and a long forecastle.
    Which is the version you are re-creating as used for 'Greyhound'.
    Attached are the appropriate deck plans.
    The deck plan in Ron's pic is as she was built with the short forecastle.
    Z62 is the designation she was given in 1944 when she was converted to a 'loop layer' Workboat following a boiler failure, and used to lay induction loops across harbour entrances to detect submarines.

    Re Camo paint
    You are right, the blue you've used is much too garish.
    It looks more like 'Flight deck blue'. See pic 2.
    What you need is Western Approaches Blue, which is more like a pale turquoise.
    See pic three.
    Camo colours should 'fuzz' the image of a warship, not highlight it!
    For this reason it should also be matt or most likely a satin/eggshell finish.
    To avoid sunlight glinting off the ship attracting attention.

    More info on authentic paints and sources, and links to zillions of Sackville photos tomorrow (later today🙄) coz it's now almost 3am here! 😴💤💤💤
    Ciao for now, Doug😎
    PS If you ever make it to Munich I'll buy the brunch, 'Frühschoppen'😉😋


    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/hmcs-sackville.html?sortBy=relevant
    https://www.military-modelling.com/a-47066911/lifecolor-colors-from-paint-sets-u
    https://www.military-modelling.com/a-44113719/lifecolor-paint-sets/cs34-lifecolo
    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    5 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald. Dallas Fort Worth metroplex. I’m 30 miles North of Dallas, Texas
    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    5 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Where is DFW?
    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    5 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Thanks for the pics Ronald!! If you're ever in the DFW area let me know, we'll do brunch on me...
    💬 Re: Oh my word what have I roped myself into!!??!
    5 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    The post-war and war versions Canadian Flower class which mag have been the HMCS Sackville. Photos are a collection from various sources. I have not worked on this project for awhile.
    📝 Paint came in, hull painted…the blue is mot quite right
    6 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. It’s been a bit since the last update. I wanted to get the hull painting done before moving on as I’m building this in sections before final assembly…hull, aft deck and superstructure, fwd deck and superstructure. This way I’ll be able to make sure she’s watertight, I’ll have access to internals, and it’ll be easier to get the ballast right. So, I ordered my paint, including a light blue from Tamiya. It’s not that light. Looking at my hull vs the Sackville that blue is about 3 shades too dark. Since I’m building “Dicky” from the movie Greyhound, and the Sackville was used for the cgi model of Dicky, I at least want to get it close. I have a different shade of blue coming in Tuesday, and a test piece painted with the Tamiya light blue ready to check compatibility.
    Cash

    💬 Re: Paint came in, hull painted…the blue is mot quite right
    4 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    DFW = Dallas Fort Worth, eh? Never ventured into Texas, with all them open carry folks, someone might not like my Canadian Licence plates on my car. Not you, but there are some radical ones out there.

    If you need a change in scenery from tumble weeds to lush green fields, then Go North!
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    6 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    My son sent me this, “ getting the grey right” 😵‍💫

    The photo below is taken from a recent Today’s Defense article showing these problems to be industry wide. The U.S. Navy warship is painted with the newest paint from various manufacturers that all “meet the spec”. The traditional “haze gray” is variously being described as “dim gray, light gray, tannish gray, pinkish-gray, and green-gray”. Although the new paint is extremely weather resistant and environmentally friendly, it does not seem to hold its colour well.
    Clearly, we are not the only ones having colour challenges, the U.S. Navy’s “Sea Gray”...
    💬 Re: Paint came in, hull painted…the blue is mot quite right
    6 days ago by 🇺🇸 ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    Cash,
    Looking good!
    Two paint comments. 1) Is the Tamiya a flat or a shiny finish? If the latter, a layer of dull coat will soften the color a bit. 2) Blue contains Red, the fastest fading color found on ships. As such, Blue's dull quite rapidly and often chalked. All that said, the color at the ship yard, vs even 3 months at sea will look appreciably different.
    It has been interesting to follow several museum ships that have recently been re-paint in camo scheme. The comment most often heard is "they don't look right".
    😁😁😁
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    6 days ago by 🇺🇸 jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Cash! Good to see ya’

    Happy to see the words “test piece!”

    😁👍🏻
    📝 Leakproofing the seams
    20 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Nothing really interesting this week, as I spent my time going over the hull and making sure that the hull is as leakproof as I can make it. The hull was initially assembled with ca. I’ll use traditional plastic cement on smaller or non critical joints, but I feel more secure with ca. Once the hull was assembled, I recoated all joints. Then the fun began. The area just forward of the motor is covered with thin ca soaked fiberglass with a light epoxy coating over that. The joints under the tube and rudder bush are covered by the thin epoxy used to set those parts in place. I then used sheet plastic to build up a strip level with the middle side hull flange joints, then glued a strip over that to help spread the load. The whole flange from one side to the other was coated in filled epoxy. I used baking powder and thin ca to pack the bow joint, then coated that with filled epoxy. Lastly I covered the fwd hull seam with fiber glass, tacked down in the middle with thin ca, then coated with 30 minute epoxy squeegeed thru the glass and liberally coated with the remainder of the epoxy. I’m going to leak check the hull soon.
    Cash

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    19 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    She sat in the tub with some ballast for a good hour and a half-no leaks!! Not a drop. now I can go forward...after I figure out what paints I need to order.
    Cash
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    19 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald. To my knowledge, or at least in my experience, neither ca nor epoxy has any ill effects on styrene, as they don’t melt plastic together like plastic cement does. Now, if your talking about heat developing during curing, and that can be mitigated to a degree, depend on fillers used and how much one uses, and how much accelerator. The styrene used for the hull is pretty thick, so it would have to get very hot to affect it.
    As far as the portholes go, I’ll do what I did on my Vosper, which has some portholes in the hull. I’ll glue in the portholes with plastic cement or canopy glue, then I’ll glue a piece of the thin clear plastic that covers say, one bank of portholes, wide enough to get a solid joint between the plastic and the hull, making sure to not get glue on the portholes proper. That way, even if one or more of the portholes came out of the hull, that hole will still have sealed plastic around it. I try to build for reliability. My methods my seem different, but they work for me. Only time I’ve had a problem is when I try ro get something finished for the weekend, and I have a cavalier “I’ll do that after the maiden” attitude. It’s bit me twice, no more.
    Cash
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    20 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You are fortunate that none of the styrene has melted or deformed from any of those adhesives.

    What are your plans for keeping water from coming in at the portholes?
    📝 Revell 1/72 scale Flower Class Corvette
    26 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I haven’t posted the video yet, but the Patriot ran well, stayed dry, and pumped a lot of water, luckily I got her maiden done before the wind hit 22 or so gusting to 35. We had some drama but all turned out well.
    So, I’ve said this before, I like to keep my bench busy…building is therapy for me, and my wife lets me have 6 or so hours on the weekends and unless I’m needed for something or there’s a family emergency, about 2-3 hours a week on average. I’m going to use a lot of that time over the course of the next 3-4 months I think. Maybe more. Let me explain. About 2 Christmases ago I was searching for something for my Christmas present. Now, sometimes I give my wife a list of things I would like to have and I am pretty good about budgeting money for gifts, food, donations, etc. Also…I’m intrinsically cheap. Blame my mom. That woman could stretch a penny clean around the house…and to her credit, I don’t remember ever going without anything I needed or wanted growing up. She and my dad drilled that into my head, which I promptly forgot the first few years of adulthood. Anyway, the budget was settled. Looking thru EBay I found a new in the box Revell Flower class corvette kit. I had read of several conversions that were done, all done differently, all ran and performed well…and it’s not the Tecnic kit, which isn’t cheap…if you can find one. It was an earlier kit after Revell bought the rights to the Matchbox kit…and the price was extremely reasonable. So I got it for Christmas and it’s been in my project stash for a couple of years. Now, she’s on the bench.
    This kit is pretty nice, there’s tons of parts to her, over 1000. There are things I’ll have to address going forward, like making railing from brass wire instead of plastic, what to glue down vs what’s removable, but the first thing to do is build the stand. Now, the stand provided is fine for a display model, but just a little sketchy for an rc model. The for and aft rods that connect the ends are just plastic styrene rod. I had 2 hardwood dowels and a piece of 6mm cf tubing that would work. Later on I’ll build a proper stand and cut the dowel and tubing away to put back in the wood/brass/whatever stash. But for now, it works.
    The hull is a 4 piece affair, you have fwd port and starboard halves, and aft port and starboard also. Now, I built 2 sides then assembled the hull, thinking about it now it might have been a good idea to build a fore and aft section then complete the hull, as I had some minor fiddly alignment issues, but was able to resolve them fairly easily. Once that was done I added the chine rails, then decided on internals.
    Hers where you have to stop and think about what you’re going to do. The aft deck has a good sized opening, maybe 10x4 or so. Not huge, but workable if you plan things out. All my equipment , running gear,etc is built into this hull with that in mind, as I’m going to make the aft house removable for aces and battery changes. Looking at the instructions this looks like a good way to go. I may have to make a compromise how the foscle and bridge connect to this, but from what I can tell this will work.
    I thought I had a Fineline stuffing box but I only had a standard box in my stash, so I had to carefully drill and ream the propshaft exit to fit the box. I added a greasing tube, then scuffed the tube and the inside of the hull, then glued it in place with copious amounts of epoxy mixed with microballoons. I heated the mixture with a heat gun till it got runny, and poured it in, around and under the tube, the heating makes the epoxy runny enough to get into nooks and crannies, but it also makes it fire off quicker so you gotta be quick.
    I built the rudder next. Instead of making a rudder from brass, I opted to use the kit rudder and modify it into something useable. I had a Robbe rudder tube in my parts bin, but I was out of 3mm brass stock. Luckily I remembered that I had a short 3mm steel shaft that I wasn’t using for anything. It was bent at an angle, cut to fit into the rudder halves. The shaft was centered, the angle boxed in with wood strip, then filled epoxy was laid in both halves and clamped together. Works like a champ.
    I used a piece of 1 inch thick balsa, drilled to fit the rudder tube. I glued a piece of 2 mm sheet on top to prevent splitting, sanded the bottom to reasonably match the hull contour, then once lined up epoxied into place.
    I decided on a 650 KV Zippkits outrunner for power. This motor is wound for tugs and workboats, and it hauls my Taucher Wulf around with no issues whatsoever..bench running I’m pulling less than 1 amp at full chat. I made up a motor mount and once jigged up I tacked down with ca, double checked motor to shaft alignment then epoxied it down. I then made up a rudder servo mount from scraps and an electronics shelf just fwd of the motor. I’m still on the bench about the receiver placement there though, as it’s awful low in the hull, and 2.4 doesn’t like being surrounded by water. That might change.
    That’s where she’s at now. Next up is reinforcing the hull joints, making a battery shelf then loading the hull up with ballast to the waterline and a leak check. Then..,the real fun begins.
    Cash

    💬 Re: Revell 1/72 scale Flower Class Corvette
    24 days ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi TD,
    As my last foray onto the site for tonight😉 let me huff in your ear and blow the fog away!
    In the case of this thread, the Revell 1to72 Corvette, the scale factor is 72.
    Decimal, no fractions😉
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    24 days ago by 🇺🇸 ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    OK Doug,
    You got me, how is scale expressed in your converter? As a fraction or as a decimal? Foggy brain cells want to know😀😀
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    25 days ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Attached is a link to a Scale speed calculator using the formula I posted below, from Froude's calculations.
    It doesn't offer knots as a unit but that is irrelevant as we are looking for the result of a ratio - the scale factor.
    If you enter the knots value of the full size vessel, 16kn in the example shown, the answer given will be in knots.
    To convert the answer to mph multiply by 1.15087😉
    Happy number crunching All.

    Cheers, Doug😎


    https://calculator.academy/scale-speed-calculator/
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    25 days ago by 🇺🇸 ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    I am attaching scale speed chart that I save from an old Ship& scale magazine. I have used it for 1/48th models, my scale, and it seems to provide a fairly accurate basis.
    We need to remember that scale speed will almost always appear to be to slow, so some adjustment maybe warranted. Also, it is always nice to have just a tad more power, in one's back pocket, for those unexpected moments.
    Cheers All.
    😊
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    26 days ago by 🇺🇸 jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Will report back on another thread soon. Thanks Doug!!!!!!!!!!
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    26 days ago by 🇬🇧 PeterL3 ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Great write up encouraged me to find my old kit up in the loft will keep watching thanks peterl3
    💬 Re: Revell 1/72 scale Flower Class Corvette
    26 days ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jump,
    Your model is going to need SOME GRUNT!😮
    Scale record speed = 276.33 / root 10 = 87.383 mph (or 76knots!!)
    Bon chance mon ami, and don't flip it😁
    276.33 was the highest official record recorded.
    On practice runs she was clocked at 320mph until ...🤔☹️
    Scale speed ~320/3.16=101.2mph. Go for it Jump😁
    Don't forget to add her RYA registration number, see attached pics.
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    26 days ago by 🇺🇸 jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Doug! I will need your help with scale speed when I get going on my 1/10 scale Bluebird K-7!
    I am getting the shakes just thinking about!
    😉😂
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    26 days ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald,
    Based on William Froude's experimentation with models, producing the same wave form as the full size ship, the consensus is
    scale speed = full size speed / the square root of the scale factor.
    In your case: 16/root 72. or 16/8.485281374 = 1.885618083kn😁
    Call it 2 knots (~2.3mph) and you are close enough. Cheers, Doug😎
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    26 days ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I am also building this kit, though as a Canadian post war research vessel. No guns, they were removed and scientific instruments were added.

    I researched the top speed of these vessels and found on a good day it was 16 knots. Question? What is that at 1/72nd scale model? 🤔

    Here was the response from Google:

    0.256 mph that’s maximum speed!

    I will be using a brushed motor and probably geared to keep the model moving along in a stately manner.

    Research photos and the model in various stages of development.
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    26 days ago by 🇺🇸 jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Cash going to town!!!!!! This is going to be awesome!!!!!! Keep the pix coming!
    👍😉


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