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💬 Re: That didn't end well
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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Hey SS. Any progress getting operational? I mentioned you were building an ATB but what you’re building, as you previously mentioned, is a powered barge.
This will be a very interesting build, especially when you are kindly testing two different Kort configurations. ▲
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Remove Ads 💬 Re: That didn't end well
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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Too bad. Not altogether surprising given that
there are at least four or five lengthy threads about problems with Mtroniks escs in a U.S. forum. Most issues related to failures when they are used with twin motors. I myself had failure problems using their escs in a twin motor application. Mtroniks replaced about four esc’s that failed. Working directly with tech support we were unable to resolve the problem; finally gave up even after optically isolating them. Small consolation but you are not alone…… by a long shot. ▲
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💬 Re: That didn't end well
4 months ago by 🇬🇧 SouthportPat (
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I have always found Mtronics to be good at replacing defective units - give them a try - they are too expensive to just write it off
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💬 Re: That didn't end well
4 months ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Simple Sailor, you meant (brushed) not (brushless), right?
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💬 Re: Caught by the Kort
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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SS; I just saw this post.Way cool idea! After you get by the esc failure your results will be very interesting. 👍👍
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Remove Ads 💬 Re: Caught by the Kort
4 months ago by 🇬🇧 SimpleSailor (
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Hi Chum444. Are you a mind reader ?😁. I am just designing a test rig where I can measure in Kg the thrust produced. I will use the same prop in all cases and start with a none Kort as the reference. The picture is just the start. I will post the finished rig when done and eventually the results.
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💬 Re: Caught by the Kort
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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Good afternoon SS. Interested in an experiment? Since you are versed in 3D printing, you could create two Korts; one with an airfoil internal diameter, the second with a constant (straight) diameter. Try them both on your ATB to see if you notice a difference in maneuverability. All of this if set up on the printer is not too onerous.
Interestingly I read that the Korts were originally used to reduce erosion of the banks & bottom of European canals. In addition, their main value in 1:1 vessels is to increase thrust per shaft horsepower. I had thought they were employed to improve maneuverability. Shows what I know! ▲
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💬 Re: Caught by the Kort
4 months ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Simple Sailor, your study and practical application of Kort nozzles is truly interesting and commendable.
By the way, a quick aside: did you know that even though it bears the name Kort, it was developed in 1930 by the Italian aeronautical engineer Luigi Stipa and perfected by the German naval architect Ludwig Kort? You're doing great things with the 3D printer. I believe you're the most advanced and skilled among us in this field. You don't just make small parts, but entire boats—well done. To the question I asked in another thread about tools, you'd answer: just a 3D printer, hahaha. You don't need anything else. You also need a PC, of course. I'll be following further developments on Kort nozzles with interest. ▲
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💬 Re: Caught by the Kort
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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SS, you are really into the concept! I’m certain you will love the Kort. However, you will need to change your user name from SS. How about Hydro D Sailor?
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💬 Re: Next challenge.
4 months ago by 🇬🇧 SimpleSailor (
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Hi Chum444. Yes I have and I might well make that an option. I am just messing with the rudder design at the moment and have opted for a symmetrical aerofoil section with upper and lower plates. It is supposed to be very manoeuvrable and lessen cavitation. Not that cavitation would really be a problem on a thing this size.😁
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💬 Re: Next challenge.
4 months ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 (
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Nice project. Have you considered a single steerable Kort nozzle? The difference in maneuverability over an open screw will please you.
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💬 Re: New idea for printing
5 months ago by 🇬🇧 SimpleSailor (
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Hi Boatshed. It is a difficult thing to quantify without putting a Watt meter in circuit with the printer. However my printer has a 300 Watt power supply. That does not mean it uses 300 Watts, it is what is available. The heated bed and the hot nozzle are controlled by a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) signal so are not on all the time. The average power used would have to be taken. I might actually measure the AC current one day and work it out. As an estimate, if you were paying £0.26 per KWH (per 1000 watt hour) and the printer used an average of 200 Watts it would cost £0.052 per hour, so 30 hours of print time would be £1.56. For me it is about the time hanging around waiting for it to print. The cost does not bother me. I try and design my items to be robust but print fast.
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💬 Re: New idea for printing
5 months ago by 🇬🇧 BOATSHED (
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Ian confused with the 3d printing, you say 30 odd hours??
What does that add to your electric bill ?? ▲
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💬 Re: Hopper Barge
5 months ago by 🇬🇧 PeterJ (
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Looks good can you make these for sale ?
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Remove Ads 💬 Re: Hopper Barge
5 months ago by 🇦🇺 B rian J ames (
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Keep it 'Simple Sailor'?, Have U tried skeg(s), aft, & or a 'yoke & or bridle' forward? 'B J', 'B'ad Dad 'J'oke???). 🤔 ( No 'Yoke' intended, let alone a pun. I'm normally very 'punny'? 🤣 All the best.
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💬 Re: Hopper Barge
5 months ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR (
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Bravo SimpleSailor, well done.
I am very interested in the program you mentioned FreeCad, but I do not know it. I assume it is free, according to its name. How do you like FreeCad? Can you make hulls with more curved lines? ▲
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