John, I am quite familiar with most of the devices needed for RC vehicles. I have a few land vehicles (trucks and a half track) that were operated by model specific RC controllers pre-installed and converted to standard RC trans/rec.

In this wide world one would think someone would have created a replacement for an inline the old resistor/rheostat for reducing bipolar voltage.

Lew
Florida ⛱️, USA

hi there Lew

I have a feeling, my friend, you may have to bite the bullet with this one and alter the gearing to slow the crane down. I have been reading back through the posting and it does look like an 'all in one' circuit board that you are working with - very difficult to alter / tamper with.

I suppose though the other alternative would be - to gut the old electronics out and replace with say a Futaba receiver. Then, you would obviously have to have speed controller for the tracks on one channel (forward and back of the actual movement of the crane) - then you would require the other 3 channels for the operation of the crane itself and they could be done with small, cheap, speed controllers.

I have done this myself before on a model - but - for the winches on the crane, I used continuous rotating servos with drums attached for the cables & etc.

The speed controllers I bought came from a local Company - and I will try and find the link - because it is a long time since I made this model. I can put the link on for you if I find it.

John

Thanks John. I've built this circuit for a "radar" motor speed controller. Unfortunately this will not work for this application as I need the input and output reversible.

Lew
Florida ⛱️, USA

hi there

If you are handy with a soldering iron, I suppose that you could construct this little voltage regulator. This would vary the speed of your motor.

The only downside is that you only have 5 volts input which is on the low side for a lot of I.C control units.

John

What speed are you looking for and what does the motor operate?

I doubt that this device would work for a bunch of reasons. Thanks anyway.

Also, the output of the toy receiver is not variable. Just forward, stop, and reverse.

Lew
Florida ⛱️ ,USA

Hi ya Lew

My main concern about what you are trying to do is - the power supply from that circuit board to the crane motor may already be a variable voltage supply, by a pulse with voltage gizmo on the circuit board. Similar to the way the circuitry in a speed controller works. It sends a pulse of signals. I suppose one way of testing would be to replace the motor with a 6 volt bulb. If the bulb dims as you move your lever on your control and it starts to flash, this will be an indication that it is a pulse system. If not, you may be able to replace or fit a little gizmo from China, which I have used quite often and it is a motor speed controller from 'Ali Express'.

I will put a link on here as well, when I refind it for you.

John

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001051202952.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.55d56b8dBFGuuj&algo_pvid=3e07e4ab-e6ea-46e1-82b4-4b355e02b663&algo_exp_id=3e07e4ab-e6ea-46e1-82b4-4b355e02b663-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%212.07%211.78%21%21%2117.99%21%21%40211b612817005811675992422ee509%2110000013766661165%21sea%21GB%213028795333%21&curPageLogUid=Mwk1y1DAPO8K

Doug, thanks for the info on servo speed reducers. I was not aware of them before.
Len

Thanks Doug. I was also wondering about these servos speed reducers and if that would answer my questions. (Crane was supplied by Marquis de Peking.)

In the receiver output for channels, the red wire varies the voltage from (approximately) +5v to -5v. The black wire is common, and the white wire is sense.

So the relationship between the red and black varies in that range. The DC motor doesn't recognize that or if the polarity on the terminals is reversed for a direction change.

How about the output from the receiver I have? Is there a way of testing to see if the polarity is changing or is there a common on one wire and the other is going positive to negative?

Lew
Florida ⛱️, USA

PS:
Lew, sorry to read of the pain scheme 🤕😭 of the crane.
Was the crane model supplied by Marquis de Sade Models?😁🤣
😎

Hi Lew,
How about this little gizmo😉
Good for cranes and gun turrets, anything that rotates.
Happy twiddling.
Doug😎

https://www.componentshop.co.uk/p96-servomorph.html.html

Hi LewZ,
Resistors are the only thing I can think of, Sorry.
Trev

Huina # 1572. Individual motors for caterpillars (2), pan, lift, and boom tilt. Scale is about 1/16 - 1/18.

I made a lot of mods, much longer boom (~2X), changed strings to wire, shut-off switches for caterpillars, double shieve, pain scheme, Bruder figure, new hook, and more.

Panning is too fast and Jerky.

Lew
Florida ⛱️, USA

Does this motor only turn the cranes movements left or right? Or does it power the lift too?

Any pictures? Who makes the toy?