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Dutch sailing barge
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I’d previously built a model of a Bristol Pilot Cutter without an additional keel, but the hull shape was very different.
The Dutch barge hull is basically flat bottomed. I’ve struggled to find any useful info about other similar models. The only guidance came from looking a models of Thames barges, which have an additional keel, so that was the reason to make one. The keel is easy to remove as is the lead weight, the idea is that it is easy to make another of different design if necessary.
The Dutch barge hull is basically flat bottomed. I’ve struggled to find any useful info about other similar models. The only guidance came from looking a models of Thames barges, which have an additional keel, so that was the reason to make one. The keel is easy to remove as is the lead weight, the idea is that it is easy to make another of different design if necessary.
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Hi Andy, I wasn't sure I remembered correctly, so I decided to reread the previous messages.
I remembered you tried to stabilize the boat without using the protruding fin.
Is this an alternative (a plan B) or have you already noticed that it doesn't have enough capacity to right itself? Is that why you have to use the ballast under the fin?
In any case, you did a great job, but I'm very interested and fascinated by the aspects related to stability and the general physics of ships.
I remembered you tried to stabilize the boat without using the protruding fin.
Is this an alternative (a plan B) or have you already noticed that it doesn't have enough capacity to right itself? Is that why you have to use the ballast under the fin?
In any case, you did a great job, but I'm very interested and fascinated by the aspects related to stability and the general physics of ships.
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The idea is to leave the lead weight removable until after a few sails, to ensure its correct. Adjustments can then be made.
As for the saucepan - others are available - the one in the photo hadn’t been used for years and I’d cast lead in it previously.
As for the saucepan - others are available - the one in the photo hadn’t been used for years and I’d cast lead in it previously.
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Hi Andy great pictures, great shame there are no more casseroles for you then!😀😀
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Andy
I like the aerodynamic approach to the fin. Is it filled with ballast beads of lead sheet? The removable and interchangeable ballast bulbs are very useful to have when sailing with lighter winds.
I like the aerodynamic approach to the fin. Is it filled with ballast beads of lead sheet? The removable and interchangeable ballast bulbs are very useful to have when sailing with lighter winds.
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I'm sure those with a performance mindset will not be impressed but it's functional and will certainly be fine for first sail. The lead is only bolted in place, so can be "modified" if required. There is one minor addition needed to the rigging and then its looking for a "gentle wind" for a maidan voyage.
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Made some progress and the hull etc and fittings are just about done. The last real task was to cast some lead - just a small amount. This is never going to be a "heavy weather" model. The lead will need some cleaning up and a coat of paint.
I warmed the saucepan and lead up on the kitchen cooker, before going outside for a final warm and pour.
I warmed the saucepan and lead up on the kitchen cooker, before going outside for a final warm and pour.
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Sorry, I copied the translated text twice instead of editing the errors.
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I've seen these differences even in the models you describe as museum-quality.
Even in the models you describe as museum-quality, I've seen these differences.
Even in highly detailed models, there are those who choose clarity (every piece is unique, mirror-clean, new, impeccable) and those who expertly add dirt, rust, and wear (but it's not carelessness, imprecision, or incompetence; it's all intentional and deliberate).
I'm fascinated by both, and I'm happy there are so many differences in building methods.
Ultimately, Andy, we are builders, but also observers and admirers.
We're truly curious and passionate about the work of others when it comes to scale modeling.
Even in the models you describe as museum-quality, I've seen these differences.
Even in highly detailed models, there are those who choose clarity (every piece is unique, mirror-clean, new, impeccable) and those who expertly add dirt, rust, and wear (but it's not carelessness, imprecision, or incompetence; it's all intentional and deliberate).
I'm fascinated by both, and I'm happy there are so many differences in building methods.
Ultimately, Andy, we are builders, but also observers and admirers.
We're truly curious and passionate about the work of others when it comes to scale modeling.
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I suppose there other way of looking at it is, display models and sailing models. There are a small number of people capable of building museum quality models that actually sail, while the rest of us compromise. I don’t have the patience to build to museum standards, so it therefore has to be a simplified sailing model.
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