Thanks for the info Chris, I didn't know that.
Based on this information, anyone who wants can learn more.
The last tins I had didn't have any costituents on them.
Correct final observation (intended as a comment).

The ingredient that caused the ban was an anti-skinning agent and is called Methyl Ethyl Ketoxime or 'MEKO'. The amount in tinlets would be very small but obviously once it's identified as a problem action has to be taken.

Chris

Hi Alessandro,
No offence meant. I've just been curious for some time🤔
I've been to Rome a few times, both on business and privately.
Now you mention it I dimly remember seeing SPQR on manhole covers. Had to smile.😊
But for most of us 'Stranieri' we are only used to seeing SPQR on the banners that the Centurions and Legionnaires carry in epic films and documentaries.

As for RNinMunich; Pure 'happenstance'. When I registered for this site it was the first time I had been asked to enter a user name.
As I had just got got back from sailing my WW2 RN destroyer HMS Hotspur on the Ostpark Lake here in Munich I spontaneously created the RN detachment in Bavaria!😁
Which later featured prominently in my 'Night Watch' thread, which unfortunately died off during the Covid lockdowns😭Was fun while it lasted😁

Apropos the Humbrol paints; the photos from Duncan show the list of ingredients (or constituents if you prefer). I assume that the EU rules require the same on the new cans/tins. (Cans is the US English version.)
I have a good stock of Revell paints, and a few old Humbrol tins, but for accurate naval ship paints I use, Colour Coat enamel for detailing and Lifecolor acrylic for the big jobs, hulls and such. For non naval boats, such as my Sea Scout and Gina 2 cutter, I use acrylic spray cans from the local DIY store.
Cheers, Doug😎

Hi Duncan, I was just curious to know how much these colours cost in the UK.
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
If I didn't do a bad job (as I was in a hurry) 50ml at a price of £7.50, the price per litre is £150.
In my case, 14ml at a cost of 3 euros, means a cost of 214 euros per litre.
With today's exchange rate of 1.18 (one pound equals 1.18 euros) 150 pounds is equal to 177 euros. Last week the exchange rate was 1.20 so 150 pounds is equal to 180 euros.
I gather you pay a lot less.

Yes the Humbrol enamel has a good finish and I use a brush. I never actually use an airbrush, but I'm a terrible painter.

Duncan, maybe I underestimate the EU directives a little (and I am critical of many of them), but I continued to buy the old enamels that were still on sale. I use the new ones and the old ones without distinction.
I had bought a thinner that gave off a very strong smell and the instructions were terrible (warnings of all kinds and on the danger of cancer) and yet it was not forbidden to sell. I used it with a mask and got rid of it as soon as possible.
For short paint jobs with Humbrol colors I do not even use a mask. But I am wrong and you are right, the mask should always be used. I do not want to give bad advice so I say always use it.

Some matt varnishes are necessary for realism; a glossy finish may not be the best. However, it is above all a question of taste.

I am not able to tell you what the offending element could be. I have not done any research in this regard. I knew that the products had been removed from the EU market and then reintroduced because all the model shops I went to told me so. I therefore believed that this was true information.

Hello Doug, I answer your upcoming curiosity.

About the name, I think we had already talked about it, anyway as the Latins said "repetita juvant".
I don’t know that there is a rule for nicknames, everyone chooses what they want, how they want.
There are those who choose them completely at random, without any apparent logic, who even enters name and surname, who puts the first name and only the initial of their own surname, who puts the first name and year of birth, etc. Etc.
There are many who put their country (like UK for example) or their city behind the name (as in my case).
In fact SPQR is to indicate Rome.
This acronym that everyone knows (Senatvs PopvlvsQve Romanvs) identifies my city.
In Rome the acronym SPQR appears everywhere, on manholes, fountains, on the website, on buses, on heraldic coats of arms, in the football team, in short everywhere.
I chose the nickname AlessandroSPQR, as I could have chosen AlessandroROMA, simply in honor of my city, its history (I am passionate and interested in history in general) and its civilization.
You too, (I think) wanted to honor your city in some way: Munich. The difference is that you chose the city where you lived and worked and not the city of origin. I didn’t.
By now you have understood that it is not about politics and I have no political ambitions (I do not know how you came to this idea). I hope I have been clear and comprehensive.
The term "pompous" I honestly did not understand; I translated it but I did not understand what you meant.
I think I’m the only one on this site who has to explain his nickname, but it’s fun.
I'm not at all upset, in fact I have Doug to thank for that.
What is certain is that I am not Caius but Alessandro.

Thank you for the clarification between tins and jars. As I have already said many times I insert the Italian text in the translator but I like these clarifications and lessons, as that on motor and engine. Actually, I am much more interested in nautical terms; in this field I would like many more corrections and lessons.

I send you more photos, but I don’t think they will be very useful, because I don’t believe there are ingredients like in food products.
If these photos also do not satisfy you ask, I will try to make others.
I picked up the box of colors looking for the most recent (the last purchased), I hope I have fished well. The old ones I certainly did not throw away.

Available for any further clarification.

Hi Mike, next time I go to a hobby shop I want to ask if they have the Renovo brand, to try it.

That matches what I remember Roy.

I seem to remember an article in Model Boats Magazine a few issues back where the "new" paint was reviewed and found to be favourable.

I haven't used any for donkeys' years since building Airfix kits when I was young but will probably use some when I get to the detailing stage on my builds.

Chris

I hope this is right as it is from memory.

Some years ago Humbrol paint went to China and the colour pigment was not as finely ground as it was in the UK. There is a difference in the label during this time. I believe paint production was brought back to UK after complaints.

A couple of years ago I was after some oil based paints in one of the big stores and was told it was discontinued awaiting the E.U. to approve a water based version.

Not having bought any Humbrol recently, I would check the instructions for cleaning brushes. If it is a water based paint, then water can be used otherwise it is turpentine substitute or an equivalent cleaner.

I do not imagine any of the available paints would need a mask except for spraying. So whatever the new constituents of the paint are, brushing on should be quite safe.

Roy

Thank God for Brexit😂

Hello you sky painters,
Thank you for the good input . . Let's see if this is available here again.
I paint with Renovo lacquer colours and acrylic lacquer, finally I apply either a clear or matt lacquer. .
Some do it this way, others do it differently . . 😊😊😊😊
Your Michel-C.

Thank you Alessandro. All the 50ml tins I have are like your 1st photo so they must be the old type! I paid £7.50 for this small tin which works out at about £100 per litre!!! Having said that Matt White isn't something I will not want to use again so 500ml tin would be an over kill! I've also got gloss red, black, grey and white in 50ml tins which were used on my RAF crash tender. I have found that the Humbrol enamel gives a good finish even when applying with a brush. It does smell quite a bit so perhaps in future I will have to wear gloves and wear a face mask - plus do it out in the garage which is rather too cold now! I haven't used a Matt version before but I'm presuming it will go on as good as the gloss versions. Here are some photos of the details on the 50ml tins. Still too small to read comfortably without magnifying!☹️

Caio Alessandro Senatus PopulusQue Romanus,
(A rather pompous name if I may make so bold. Or do you have political ambitions to represent 'The Senate and People of Rome'?)
Ref the Humbrol tins (not jars, jars are made of glass, usually with screw caps. Some kind of translator screw up I presume🙄)
It would be more helpful if the photos showed any info about the ingredients in the paint, if available. And taken head on (ground level) instead of from above. Then perhaps we could see what it was that upset the EU lawmakers.
Cheers, Doug😎

Hi Duncan. Here are the photos.
I have always used small jars (14 ml maximum 20 ml).
They have an excellent yield because they manage to cover a good surface. The first photo is related to the first period, the second photo is the last product (the one currently on the market).
Apparently there are no differences.

I bought the second jar (the 14 ml white one) a week or two ago and paid 3 euros for it.
It seems like a bit high cost to me, in your opinion (for your market) what is it like? Do you pay them less?

Yes I would like that if you would please send me the photos. That will be most helpful. Might also be helpful to others if you put them on this site. Thanks. Cheers, all the best D😊

Hi Duncan.
There is no problem for those who buy.
The ban only affected the European Union and not other countries, so you have no problems.
However, when the ban occurred, shopkeepers were allowed to sell what was already in stock.
Now the shops have been stocked with the new products (perfectly in order and legal) so the buyer doesn't have to worry about anything.
But, if you want, I'll post photos of the old and new Humbrol can.


P.S. For what you have already purchased, go ahead and use it. Maybe if you really want to be safe, use a mask.

Do you know when the new ones came available? I've just bought a 50ml matt white off the internet. Were they toxic to use or toxic to the environment? I've always used humbrol enamel on all my models starting from when we had the COVID lockdown. I wasn't aware of the ban! Is there anything that I should look for on the tins?
Cheers Duncan