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    MV Bluenose
    by hecrowell ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    ๐Ÿ“ bluenose build - on hold
    6 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I have put the build for the ship on hold because I found that building with foamboard is not the best option....at least thats my opinion. It was not a complete waste of time because I learned a few things along the way. Therefore I will not proceed with that medium. If I am going to put the time and effort into this model, it will be plank on frame construction.
    at this time I will devote my time to learning a 3D modeling software (Sketchup) so that I can come up with reasonable plans which is the foundation for any model.
    hopefully I will be back soon with progress.
    thank you to my followers
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    ๐Ÿ“ Bluenose - The build
    6 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Well, started the actual build this morning. Cut the deck outline and the bulkheads and stuck together with Gorilla glue. The boat is built upside down and the pictures show her laying deck side down.

    A bit of fairing on the bulkhead sides is needed, then will add the waterline sheet and finally the hull left and right hull sides. Once everything looks ok, I will cut the deck opening and bulkhead openings.

    Looking at her now, she seems a bit small so if worse comes to worse, she will become a static ship and I will say she is a "learning model" and will go for a larger model once I find out what,I did wrong on this build. It's a bit early yet to say all is ok, but so far, so good and I will add the below waterline details later on in the build process.

    I am kind of wondering about how I will accomplish the flair of the bow area between bulkheads 1 to 3. It is a compound curve and they are not liked by solid and mostly unyeilding covering material. I may have to use solid foam between bulkheads 1 & 2 as well as 2 & 3 and shape it as needed...we shall see.

    Forward of bulkhead 1 to the stem will be solid foam shaped as necessary. I don't see (as of yet) any issue with the stern curve as that is pretty much a foam block shaped as necessary.

    Here's a few pics of what I got so far.
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    ๐Ÿ“ MV Bluenose -Plans
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Began the job of drawing plans tonight. From the image I have to work from, the sheer line appears to be level. That illusion may be caused by the fact that the image is not exactly perpendiculat to the camera.
    Somehow I am betting that the sheer height offset is a bit shorter at the stern than the sheer height at the bow. Anyway that will be figured out as Inprogress.
    I am finding out one thing for cure - at 80, my hand doesnt draw curves like it did when I was 40!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose -Plans
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Stations

    I am thinking that the station profiles would look something like this. Rough sketch only - no measurements
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose -Plans
    7 months ago by ToraDog ( Lieutenant)
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    I have attached a photo of Bluenose. It rather illustrates what I was trying to expain about her shape. Looking towards her aft quarter, one can see the overhang of her sides. This extended most of the way forward as well. station plans woud explai it much better than I can.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose -Plans
    7 months ago by ToraDog ( Lieutenant)
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    I think that I still have a numer of photos of her that may help you with her under water profile. I will endeavor to load them tomorrow.
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    ๐Ÿ“ MV Bluenose - Plans started
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Sent my broadside image to rasterbator.com and processed it tiled to four 8.5โ€ X 11โ€ sheets. Printed them off and trimmed to the margin lines. Finally with the help of my Scotch tape dispenser, stuck โ€˜em all together. The final outcome produced a hull with overall hull length of 23โ€ which suits me just fine. The scale calculator tells me she will be a 1:180 model.
    Drawing of the top view of her is basically a guess and going by what I can recall of her lines tells me that the stem at the waterline was quite pointed and flared at the sheer to produce a top view of a rounded โ€œnoseโ€. This part will be made with balsa or basswood blocking.
    According to her specs she had a 17โ€™ draft which wheen scaled comes out to only a little under 2โ€. I will build her as a flat bottom at the waterline and build the underwater as a self emptying ballast tank because being mostly foam, she will be quite light. I have heard of this before and aparently it works quite well.

    Power for her is planned to be dual brushless motors/ESCโ€™s with reverse. All this will be fed with high capacity LiPo battery. Someone should advise me - considering she will have two props - how many rudders (single or dual) I should give her.

    Thats about it for this post - will be adding more as progress happens.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose - Plans started
    7 months ago by Rowen ( Commander)
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    Sounds exciting!
    Think you might be overpowering though with 2 x brushless motors and a Lipo.
    Would suggest 2 x small brushed motors (350), with individual speed controllers (to allow independent control) and sealed lead acid power.
    The weight of the battery will help with ballasting.
    Whilst no expert, imagine that type of vessel would have had a rudder per screw to help maneuvering.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose - Plans started
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi ToraDog
    Thank you for the info - all info is very important and so very much appreciated. As far as I can remember there were several captains for her - 11 or so I think, two of them being Capt Davies and Captain Crump.

    Just had a brainwave - i know one of the radio ops (Sparks) that worked on her for years. He is a fellow radio ham op living in Yarmouth, and I know him quite well. Will see what he can come up with as far as possible plan sources.

    Info for this ship is basically non-existant which is too bad seeing that info is available for most of the previous and later ferriesโ€ฆmy luck. I did hear bk from Lloyds Register and they are looking, so all hope is not gone.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose - Plans started
    7 months ago by ToraDog ( Lieutenant)
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    Many ,many moons ago, I did some work on Bluenose in Bar Harbor. The Captain at the time was kind enough to give me a set of general plans of her. I have no idea what I did with them or you would have received a copy by now. I do remember that Bluenose had a very different underwater shape to her hull. She also had what would almost be called blisters, in that her sides came down to the waterline and the hull extended down from the waterline with a narrower beam than where her sides met the waterline. Does this make sense? i hope so, because it's the best that I can do.
    I might suggest checking with the Yarmouth Historical Society or the public library there to see if they had any infomation or plans on her.
    I think your two brushless would be plenty of power. You may even want to gear them as she was not a speed demon, just wicked dependable.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Building Materials
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Quite likely, most builders that read this already know what I am presenting here, but just to put forward what I have experimented with seems to work - so far. I welcome any comments and the subject of building materials and putting them together as a usable model is open. I am very new to modeling - especially watercraft, and therefore am very receptive to advice.

    After carrying out some experiments with materials such as wood, Elmers foam board and after a lot of reading, pro and con for both types of material, I have come to the following conclusion: I will be using 1/4โ€ [6mm] foamboard. Joints will be glued with Gorilla Instant Glue. Joints inside and outside will be sealed with brown paper soaked with an Elmers waterproof Glue-All/water mix. Final sealing will be with several coats of an exterior water based polyurethane. Final painting will be with a spray enamel.
    Some of my experimenting with foam.

    OK, NOW OFF TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

    *****************๐Ÿ’ก๐Ÿ’ก UPDATE - UPDATE ๐Ÿ’ก๐Ÿ’ก Wed Jan 28 2022************

    This morning, the brown paper experiment to seal and strengthen the joints and seams looks very promising. Upon drying, sure enough, the shrinkage has produced an absolutely smoothe surface with no wrinkles or bumps. When tapped with a fingernail, one would swear that the mockup structure was made from 1/8โ€ plywood.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Building Materials
    7 months ago by pressonreguardless ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Interesting method of construction.
    I am looking foward to seeing the construction progress.
    Good Luck!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Trev
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    ๐Ÿ“ MV Bluenose
    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Ok, okโ€ฆI knowโ€ฆI havent quite completed the Pole Dancer (ne NAXOS) yet, but it is quite difficult getting the items I need to finish up. Shipment times seem quite long.
    So, to take up the slack, I am pondering a 2nd project, the MV Bluenose - not to be confused with the sailing vessel Bluenose and Bluenose ll.
    The MV Bluenose provided ferry passenger and vehicle service between my home town Yarmouth, Nova Scotia and Bar Harbour, Maine from 1955 till 1982. I am seeking drawings for her from Davie Shipbuilding, Quebec but have not received any return mail from them as of yet. I have her dimensions on hand from her wikki and. if I have to will make my own drawings from many online images that I have obtained from the internet
    I have thought about several possibilities as far as construction material and will include that info on my DIY โ€œBlueprintsโ€.
    Scale? I am aiming for semiscale and her overall length will be between 32โ€ and 36โ€ and breadth approximately 8โ€.

    Wish me luck
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    7 months ago by hecrowell ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Rowen
    Thanks so much for the info on possible sources for drawing info..will try both of those leads.
    You are absolutely correct about info from Davie. The company had been re purchased by another concern and drawings no longer exist.
    As a last resort, I am fortunate enough to be somewhat skilled in drawing so may have to rely on myself. Its all part of a great hobby and if nothing else will be able to say โ€œshes all mine.โ€
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    7 months ago by Rowen ( Commander)
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    Sounds a great project.
    Rather doubt will have much success with Davie.
    You might do better with CN or whoever operated her last. The other source I have found is Lloyds Register. If she was insured by them there will be drawings on file.
    Good luck.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MV Bluenose
    7 months ago by ToraDog ( Lieutenant)
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    Wicked! I grew up watching her leave Bar Harbor every morning and returningg every night. Each Fourth off July, the Town fireworks show waited until the 'Nose rounded Bald Porcupine Island, coming in bound, before setting off, so the passengers got a once a year show. She was sometimes late due to weather, but she never cancelled or turned back, unlike her replacements. Going out and jumping her wake was great fun. AND, it proves that even fools sometimes survive. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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