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2 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช Dampfgerd ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Thanks and yes it has a lot going for it, as long as I can do the build justice.๐ค๐ค๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง seafarer ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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Looks a great boat with lots of character.
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Thanks, Chris.
Looking forward to your build๐๐ Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hiya, I'm looking forward to watching your progress. It looks a beautiful boat to build and I'm sure you will do a wonderful job of building this iconic 'Little Ship'.๐ Good luck Duncan
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Trev
The plan came from Sarik models as mentioned by Roy. It comes in two large sheets and is very clear to work from. The plan was designed by D Metcalf in 1991. I have chosen the sizes outlined as a lot of the clever bits, portholes, stanchions and other bits that I am unable to make myself are available to buy online. Thanks everybody for the interest, I have never had so many emails, wonderful. And I have been promoted ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ I am now part of Great Grandads Navy. ๐ Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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As an extra to the little ships I was watching an episode I think from 'Combat Ships' labelled Stealth. To my surprise a boat called Sundowner was part of the programme. The owner had been the senior surviving officer on the Titanic. The story goes on to when he was employed by ??? to spy out the north coast of Germany just before WW2.
That is the gist, lots more on the programme so won't spoil it for you. Roy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Bluebird of Chelsea was a free plan in Model Boats magazine. This set of plans was printed in blue and red (Ah! Those were the days)!
At the time there was a several issue set of building instructions. It is very well detailed. Currently plans at 1 : 12 scale available BM1449 from Sarik Hobbies at ยฃ13.00. Model around 27 inches loa. and a hull is also available. At the time the owner of the boat invited anyone with a model of Bluebird to come on board. Hope this helps. Roy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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She looks like a great project, Chris
To repeat Mike's question, where did you get the plans? Thanks, Trev ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Chris what scale is she and where did you get the plan from
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง rolfman2000 ( Warrant Officer)
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When I belonged to Worcester model boat club, the chairman always bragged about his scale model of this wonderful craft. But, sad to say, I don't think we ever saw it.
I always fancied doing a double sized 1/12th scale version of it to do it justice. But sadly, it was beyond my skill set ๐ I wish you lots of luck with your build, and will follow it throughout its journey ๐ Kindest regards, Dave W ๐ ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Trev, I certainly hope you are right, I ordered cedar strip specifically for this build previous to this have always used harder wood, I think cedar strip has many good points it will bend easily and is easy to work but the finish is rougher than expected. I am no purist and have nothing against the likes of P38 to achieve the finish I need in fact I consider it to be like the old caulking but have usually started the finishing process from a better place, we will see.
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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It will look great once sanded out, Chris๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Chris, it's apleasure following your build. Static or rc, it's not important, just to see how it proceeds and finally finishes is what I like to see.
And yes I also have many boxes with obscure collections of parts in, some are from my dad's collection of might be useful one day boxes. Carry on sir you are doing a grand job. Cheers Colin. ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Colin
The skegs are soldered to 2.5m brass tubes within which is a 1.5m brass rod onto which the prop will fit. It is irrelevant really as I have decided that this is going to be a static display model. I hope that has not spoiled any enthusiasm for the build, I have lots of models with motors and r/c gear and rarely get to the lake to use them so it seems a waste of expensive electronics for no purpose plus it is a bit twee down below. The props I found in my scrap box and are 30+ year old supplied by Billings, never ceases to amaze me what I have in various scrap boxes ๐คฃ๐คฃ I bet you are the same. Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Chris, you are doing a first class job. I have one query about your stuffing tubes, in your pictures it looks like the skews are soldered to the propshafts not the tubes???
Is it going to be a static display model.??? Nice props by the way, happy modelling, cheers Colin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Looking great! Looking forward to watching your progress on this great model.
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Looking Good Chris๐๐
Sanding and filling does seem to go on forever. Trev ▲
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Coming along nicely. I agree with you about the sanding and filling - it seems to be a never ending job. It will look superb when finished I'm sure. I like yourself like the 50ml Humbrol paints but they are hard to resource. I've got a tin which I hope will be enough to do 2 coats over the varnish - which is below the waterline and slightly above. I would have been on with that now if hadn't been for my set back with the masking tape pulling bits of the varnish off! Sanding back the beautiful varnish finish was rather heart breaking! As someone said - that's modelling for you! I will follow your build with interest. Good luck. Duncan
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Thanks Roy
Never rains but when it pours, just went into the garage to find 2 metal rulers and the other bits to replicate your jig idea and one of the cables on the up and over door decided to give up the ghost and the door dropped pinning me half in and half out of the garage. A neighbour kindly lifted the door and rescued me, I could have been trapped for hours๐ . So at the moment no rulers, no jig, and no access to the garage plus a very sore back, I am thinking of taking up knitting. Regards ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi not sure how long your deck planks are but I had a similar problem with a lot of planks. I made a sanding jig.
What I did was to get 2 old metal rulers and a suitable length of planking clamped thicknesswise and at 4mm depth, leaving a level 4 mm U section for placing planks to be reduced. I used clamps at the ends and the centre section was clamped in a vice, so securely holding the jig together. Insert the plank in the groove and sand or cut to size. Check the first one out is correct width as well! It worked for me and I hope this helps. regards Roy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Looking good! Good luck with reducing the size of your planks. Sounds like a bit of a difficult task! Cheers Duncan
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Colin
Back as soon as possible, not sure of this system gremlin, I was much better with a quill pen๐คฃ Can`t afford another laptop and heat the house. Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hurry back Chris, looking forward to seeing the rest.
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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I have had a very indecisive 11 days wondering, should I change the rudder set up on my model after such positive evidence that the boat should only have one.
Member "steamer" let me know of an article in Marine Modelling International which I sent for and there it was clear as day one rudder. I have had lots of advice from other members of MBW so the decision was really made for me. So I reluctantly `bit the bullet` and made the modification, not too difficult really. So I can now proceed with the build. Regards and thanks ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello HappyB
What a dilemma, I have never been a `rivet counter` even in my model railway days but this a bit fundamental and although I know this model will never stand up to close scrutiny, it should be right. Decisions will have to be made at least I can still make the change, however like you I do think two rudders looks far more balanced. Thanks again, watch this space regards ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello HappyB
Thank you for your interest in my build and after your comment re. one or twin rudders on my model I have done some investigating with little confirmation found, I did however receive a P.M. from "steamer" with copies from an old 1991 magazine which clearly shows twin rudders on a model of Bluebird of Chelsea. The complete rebuild of this vessel by Mr Martin Summers was completed in 1990 and she joined the fleet of Little Ships for the 50th anniversary voyage to Dunkirk so that stacks up well with the magazine date of 1991. I am still able to modify my model and reduce to one rudder but am loath to proceed when I am unsure. I would like to thank "steamer" for sending me the magazine copies which I have tried to replicate with this blog not sure how successfully though. Any new information on this subject will be gratefully received, thanks to all. Regards ChrisG. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello HappyB
You could well be correct, I am building to the D Metcalf 1991 plan which does not show clearly one or two rudders. The plan does mention skegs plural and as she had two Thornecroft engines then fair to assume two props. The plan details rudder singular but does not clearly show one or two and the positioning on the plan would put it off centre. I have found no information in Martin Summers book Bluebird of Chelsea to lead me either way and Dunkirk Little Ships gives no information. I will await comments from other members before thinking of altering it, cant help thinking she would have been a bit of a bitch to manoeuvre with only one but I am open to suggestions. Thank you HappyB for your observations. Regards ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Glad to hear you are so pleased with the chrome pen. It is far superior to chrome paints I have come across previously which look more like silver than chrome. I have even used it on a mark on the chrome on my car and it has weathered OK so far! I've used the 1mm and 4mm pens. Cheers Duncan ๐
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Duncan, I have just tried it and I am amazed the pen is brilliant, I just can`t believe it. I need to put the brakes on my enthusiasm or everything in the house will be chrome๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ.
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๐ฌ Re: Bluebird of Chelsea
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Thanks Duncan it would seem my chrome pen is also Molotow so I think a bit of practice is called for, fingers crossed eh.๐ค
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hiya, I found the chrome pen takes a bit of practise especially on large areas. You need to 'let it flow' and not to drag it out too much. My pen was the Molotow Liquid chrome pen. Good luck Duncan.
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Roy
I will keep my fingers crossed that Martin Summers occasionally looks at MBW and I am honoured with an invite to see the full sized craft I am even prepared to pass on the tea and biccys. ๐คฃ๐คฃ The paint brush episode just happened by chance and I thought it might help someone else, so simple. Regards ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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That is a good tip about paint brushes as the wood at least for the brushes we use is good quality and easily carved down for further use.
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Chris, after the plans were published and several models had been finished the owner of the full size B of C invited all to bring their models on board for tea and biccys. I think he was moored in the Thames at the time.
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Colin
That is worth a try but I am not very successful normally with GRP working, if I get more desperate than I was yesterday I might well give it a shot. I have managed to get the window frames and plastic windows in the back panel of the wheelhouse done today and they are ok, not brilliant, so I am going to go slowly and carefully words I do not usually use and proceed with the sides. The front 3 windows should not pose the same type of problems, said he ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ Regards and thanks ChrisG ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H ( Fleet Admiral)
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Chris, I have come across this problem before, I glassed the back of my 1.mm timber with fine glass tissue and Ezekote. Covered over with cling film and pressed for 48 hrs till fully set.
Then cut out and build whatever needs to be built. Hope that is helpful, Colin. ▲
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