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๐ฌ Re: Swordsman v Huntsman 31
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hopefully I will get one of my Swordsman finished (at least enough to sail) so I can see if it performs as well as I remember it doing all those years ago Will.
If I get a real โshift-onโ I may be able to compare the 34โ version of the Huntsman 31 with the 33โ version of the Swordsman as well to see if the model performance compares with what you found with the full size boats. Both will need to be very good to match the LesRo Rapier as that deep vee hull performs exceptionally well! Bob. ▲
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1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Chris/Bob, my Dad used to say how the Huntsman 31 was a far better/more comfortable sea boat than the Swordsman. Having taken both of my late Uncles Faireys from the mooring in Pembrokeshire, back down to Faireys yard for servicing etc, he told me many times how 'Sou' the aft cabin Huntsman 31 would slice through a swell, but 'Sou Too' the Swordsman, tended to pound more due to the wider beam, and wider 'V'.
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๐ฌ Re: Swordsman v Huntsman 31
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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๐ฌ Re: Swordsman v Huntsman 31
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Just as I was about to leave the Southport club lake today, another member turned up with a smaller boat that was obviously a smaller sized Swordsman.
Unfortunately the owner drove it in short sharp stop/start bursts, but it was still enough to see that the boat handled beautifully and would have been a pleasure to drive. The Swordsman has a really nice handling hull - even in this smaller sized Swordsman that may have actually been smaller than your 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 Chris ? Bob ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hi Chris,
Just to let you know that I never did find anywhere locally that stocks or sells the Model Boats magazineโฆ.. โฆ..so (at great expense) I have ordered a September 2025 Model Boats magazine direct from sarik hobbies and I am really looking forward to reading your article about the Fairley Marine model boats that you have penned ๐ Bob. ▲
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1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I think my 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 was built from the currently available plans and did not look too dissimilar in size to my Les Ro Stilletto.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I had the 1:16 scale Huntsman 31 Chris, and although the proportions lookedโ rightโ, it looked really small alongside my 1:16 scale Swordsman.
It was surprising as the 33โ Swordsman is only 2โ longer than the 31โ Huntsman 31, but the difference in size was much greater than I expected it to be. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐บ๐ธ Hhager2 (
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My son was at hobby shop in Leeds this afternoon and I was on FaceTime from Massachusetts, looking at the boat kits. Youโre so lucky to have that place. We have non anymore here. Iโll have to send my kids to it again when they are over there. Nice folks there too.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ณ๐ฑ Smaragd (
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Nice one ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Hi chaps
Bob those Precedent kits will be 34"/scale 1:11. I did ask Dave why he chose that odd scale but can't remember what he said now. Looking at my build it does seem odd that the width of the deck is so wide at the front of the cabin, wider than the rear, but with the full-size boat the positioning of the front cabin sides is probably as a result of the pronounced flare of the bow and its affect inside the cabin - having said that the window in the full-sized boat looks right. With our models we aren't restrained in the same way and even a few mm would make all the difference to the width of the window. I tried various heights and curve of window but being governed by the width that was the best I could do and it is definitely better. Will, interesting what you say about one of yours. Perhaps it was modified by the builder. Was going to suggest it might be built from the Model Maker drawings but as they are for 31" I doubt it. PS. as mentioned to Bob on another thread the article is out in Model Boats! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hi Will,
Some time ago I acquired a pair of new unmade President kits for the Huntsman 31, both with the white glass fibre hull. The inside โframeโ that goes together is ready to be dropped into hull and bonded in on one of the kits, but the other has nothing done to it yet. The frame will need some minor adjustments to make it sit perfectly into the inside of the moulded hull - I suspect this is โnormal โ as every hull moulding will be slightly different inside as the hull laminations are laid up. Both kits are for the shorter length model (31โ long?) and are yet another two more models awaiting my attention to get them finished. When I do get around to looking at them I will be making some changes to the front cabin window shape (make card templates to a better shape) then adjusting the roof formers - both mods being made to remove that awful dome shaped front cabin. New plywood parts will be cut from the templates and the original kit parts for the front cab window and roof formers will be scrapped. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Another step forward Chris, another step closer to getting it on the water, nice one.
The 31 hull is such an unmistakable and classy design. One day you'll be able to have your own single make boat show, with a majority of the range covered ๐ One of the 34" 31s I've got, the cabin front window looks similar to yours, looking possibly a little narrow(not meant as a criticism of yours in any way) but mine, doesn't have much deck width either side of that cabin front edge. I have always assumed it's a President kit, but dont know for sure ๐ค Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Yours looks a LOT better than the President Huntsman 31 Chris.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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You are right Bob. I altered the front screen on my build to make it look more like the real thing but I think I may of overdone it. It looks OK from head on but looking down the roof is a bit flat.
As well as the dome I don't think the window is wide enough to get the proportions correct. If I was building mine again I would widen the window a bit as the deck either side looks a bit too wide to me and put a bit more curvature in the top of the window and hence the roof. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I will try to find a seller of the current Model Boats magazine in the Ainsdale area and buy a copy if I can so I can read your article Chris as it is a subject that genuinely interests me quite a bit,.
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1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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The President model of the Huntsman 31 does not โlook rightโ in the area of the front cab window.
This model shows it as having a curved top and a domed roof to match it, but neither of these is correct. Pictures of the real Huntsman 31 show it as looking much neater in this area and is something that I would like to improve (make it more accurate) when I make my own future companion for my Swordsman so that it looks as good as the real boat does. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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The 34" Precedent model would fit the bill as well but I wanted to have them all at the same scale. There are drawings at a scale of 1:12 that were produced by Vic Smeed but I produced my own as I was going to build the Sport version originally and also like to be able to print them out on my A3 printer.
For those interested in Fairey models there is, ahem ๐, an article in the current Model Boats Magazine which details all the drawings and kits available. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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A 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 sounds like it could be a nice size model, both to drive and transport .
31โ is compact enough to carry and large enough to see clearly out on the lake. Very interesting ! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Yes Bob, all my Fairey builds are to the same scale. Faun is only 16.5" long which has made it a challenge to get all the equipment in.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
1 month ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Is your Huntsman 31 also to 12th scale Chris , making it 31โ long?
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Lake Trials
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks for the comment. It will look even better once it has the windows and windscreen fitted and the other details etc.
Scratch built and I did the drawings as I've done for all my builds. Had to do my own as the only kit (very rare) and drawings were only available for 42"/scale 1:8 models and also I wanted the superstructure to lift off. I used those drawings and a copy of the original Fairey drawings for reference. Drawings for the Huntress (which are available at a scale of 1:12) which is very similar have this but the coamings are quite thick and unscalelike and I wanted to make them more scalelike. Achieved it but it was a bit of a pig to build! Being my first build I wasn't brave enough to plank the deck as I've done on some of my later builds and I've thought of painting it and turning it into one of the raceboats though I've already got a Huntress in that guise so we shall see? Anyway to answer your question. In most of my builds, and certainly the faster ones, I use Raboesch maintenance free prop shafts and that is a housing for a sealed ballrace bearing. The bearing at the prop end is a plain Delrin one so is water lubricated. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Lake Trials
3 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ thadlietz (
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Like the build! I want one. Question for you, in the picture of the interior I see a conical brass fitting on the end of the prop shaft before the motor coupler. Is that as a flywheel or some other function? Is the boat from a kit or full scratch built? Cheers๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Superstructure Progressing
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Fair play Chris, she's really coming together now ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Superstructure Started
3 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ StuS1 (
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Looking good! Will be nice looking.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Managed to remove the errant paint using a craft knife very carefully! Will leave the paint to harden now before sitting on the stand so that I can fit the rudder, motor and electrical stuff so that I can try it on the water.
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3 months ago by ๐ฆ๐บ B rian J ames (
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U'll need to eat 'steak', to lubricant all that 'Elbow Grease'? To get the paint of the 'strates'! Have told U about my 'Aboriginal' girl friend? My 'Lubra Cate'? 'B J'. Just joking??? ๐ค At least 'Grease is the Word'!, even if from the 'elbows'?
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฆ๐บ B rian J ames (
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It was 'quite, quiet' last night, & is again tonight. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? (Not the weather people, that's for sure). 'Weather' it will, or 'whether' it won't, is anyone's guess? GOD, BUDDER, ALAH, ZEN, HE, SHE & or IT, is not saying! Even DOG! IF U're a 'Dyslexic Atheist'. 'B J'. ๐ค Disclaimer : - No offence intended! Just humour???
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks Brian. Should be able to get some of it off OK with buffing compound but the worst bits are around where the strakes meet the chines. As said it was difficult to mask off tightly and the blue is quite thick and so I will scrape it off with a sharp knife and then touch in the white.
I should have left a slight gap between the strakes and chines, you live and learn. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Huntsman 28 - Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฆ๐บ B rian J ames (
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Re : - Fairley? Huntsman 28'. Once the paint is very cured, (in the sun?), buffing compound on towelling rag & or solvent may reduce 'bleed'. TRY BUFF FIRST, before solvent, as that's more liable to 'soften' paint! 'B J'. Good Luck! ๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Hull Progress
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Hi Chris. All built at 1:8 eh, that would make quite large models for the Swordsman and Huntsman, but a nice size for the Huntress, River Cruiser, and potentially would also be a nice size model of a Faun too.
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Hi Will. Yes, as you know, as well as building the classic well known Faireys, I like to build some different ones and none of them seem to have been built before.
Not surprising really as models like the Faun only appeal to a few and the only info. for River Cruiser was a small B&W photo in a book of the only prototype. Bit surprised that the Fisherman hasn't been built though, perhaps it has, as the full-size boat is pretty common. I was contacted by someone who builds a number of Faireys at a scale of 1:8 who wants to build the River Cruiser so I've sent him my drawings. That will be good to see. Chris ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Hull Progress
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Fair play Chris, the Faun looks fantastic. It's going to be a lovely model on the water, and one that a majority of people will have never seen before.
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