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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Windows
2 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Phew, that's those pretty much done. Bit of final filing and they are ready to be painted. Fortunately there's no rear cabin with additional windows as was the case with my River Cruiser which I've done and the Huntsman 31 which I've yet to do.
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3 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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3 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Looks like you are making a good job of them
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - More Roof
5 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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7 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Your Fairy Faun does look a bit like the Aerokits Sea Scout, even though the Scout is a little bigger......and not a genuine Fairey design .....
I also read the Sea Urchin build on a different forum and found the solution to steering the rudder (that is mounted on the outside of the transom) quite interesting. As a matter of interest, I have also suffered from "roof warpage" on my Aerokits Patrol launch, and since then, I have always added internal braces onto the base of the roof plate to stop it happening. Having to remake the rear cabin roof on the Patrol Launch is one of the reasons why it has not been finished yet (I started it in 1971. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - More Roof
7 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Surface filling was done and then sanded smooth. Eze-Kote and lightweight cloth was the applied and once touch dry another couple of coats of Eze-Kote was applied. I also gave the bottom of the roof a couple of coats to combat any warping.
Good thing about using cyano for the roof construction is that as it is quick drying it doesn't cause much, if any warping. On one build, which had a lift-off superstructure I used my usual aliphatic resin and because I hadn't clamped the superstructure to the hull it twisted it. Used aliphatic for roofs since but also clamps! Eze-Kote dry I removed the excess cloth with a sanding block and gave it another couple of coats to fill the weave. Light sanding and it will be ready for painting. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - More Roof
8 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Yes it is Bob, the Faun is only a few mm longer than the Sea Urchin. I did find a build on another forum of the Sea Urchin and I was interested in how the builder had tackled the rudder and servo, because as you know space is very tight. I found the build after I'd already sorted my rudder/servo and it was a similar solution to one I'd looked at originally but as I'd already finished the deck I didn't have access to do it.
My final solution encroaches on the cockpit area but as all the inboard Fauns (Fairey sold it as an outboard boat) are conversions/one-offs it doesn't really matter to me. The Sea Rover looks very similar to Faun but it is significantly larger at 24" and both those kits are hard chine hulls. And of course, not a Fairey! ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - More Roof
8 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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That looks nice Chris - is it about the same size as a Sea Urchin?
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - More Roof
8 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Coming on very well looks a nice little boat
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Front Windows
11 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Thanks Will. Whilst it's going to be a slow model I love it. So glad I decided to build one.
There are similar kits like I think the Sea Scout but they are simpler hard chine models and they haven't got the Fairey ancestry. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Fairey Faun - Front Windows
11 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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What a great looking little Fairey Chris. I doubt you'll ever see another Faun model.
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๐ฌ Re: Swordsman v Huntsman 31
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hopefully I will get one of my Swordsman finished (at least enough to sail) so I can see if it performs as well as I remember it doing all those years ago Will.
If I get a real โshift-onโ I may be able to compare the 34โ version of the Huntsman 31 with the 33โ version of the Swordsman as well to see if the model performance compares with what you found with the full size boats. Both will need to be very good to match the LesRo Rapier as that deep vee hull performs exceptionally well! Bob. ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Chris/Bob, my Dad used to say how the Huntsman 31 was a far better/more comfortable sea boat than the Swordsman. Having taken both of my late Uncles Faireys from the mooring in Pembrokeshire, back down to Faireys yard for servicing etc, he told me many times how 'Sou' the aft cabin Huntsman 31 would slice through a swell, but 'Sou Too' the Swordsman, tended to pound more due to the wider beam, and wider 'V'.
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๐ฌ Re: Swordsman v Huntsman 31
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Just as I was about to leave the Southport club lake today, another member turned up with a smaller boat that was obviously a smaller sized Swordsman.
Unfortunately the owner drove it in short sharp stop/start bursts, but it was still enough to see that the boat handled beautifully and would have been a pleasure to drive. The Swordsman has a really nice handling hull - even in this smaller sized Swordsman that may have actually been smaller than your 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 Chris ? Bob ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
2 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hi Chris,
Just to let you know that I never did find anywhere locally that stocks or sells the Model Boats magazineโฆ.. โฆ..so (at great expense) I have ordered a September 2025 Model Boats magazine direct from sarik hobbies and I am really looking forward to reading your article about the Fairley Marine model boats that you have penned ๐ Bob. ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I think my 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 was built from the currently available plans and did not look too dissimilar in size to my Les Ro Stilletto.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I had the 1:16 scale Huntsman 31 Chris, and although the proportions lookedโ rightโ, it looked really small alongside my 1:16 scale Swordsman.
It was surprising as the 33โ Swordsman is only 2โ longer than the 31โ Huntsman 31, but the difference in size was much greater than I expected it to be. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ Hhager2 (
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My son was at hobby shop in Leeds this afternoon and I was on FaceTime from Massachusetts, looking at the boat kits. Youโre so lucky to have that place. We have non anymore here. Iโll have to send my kids to it again when they are over there. Nice folks there too.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ณ๐ฑ Smaragd (
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Nice one ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Hi chaps
Bob those Precedent kits will be 34"/scale 1:11. I did ask Dave why he chose that odd scale but can't remember what he said now. Looking at my build it does seem odd that the width of the deck is so wide at the front of the cabin, wider than the rear, but with the full-size boat the positioning of the front cabin sides is probably as a result of the pronounced flare of the bow and its affect inside the cabin - having said that the window in the full-sized boat looks right. With our models we aren't restrained in the same way and even a few mm would make all the difference to the width of the window. I tried various heights and curve of window but being governed by the width that was the best I could do and it is definitely better. Will, interesting what you say about one of yours. Perhaps it was modified by the builder. Was going to suggest it might be built from the Model Maker drawings but as they are for 31" I doubt it. PS. as mentioned to Bob on another thread the article is out in Model Boats! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Hi Will,
Some time ago I acquired a pair of new unmade President kits for the Huntsman 31, both with the white glass fibre hull. The inside โframeโ that goes together is ready to be dropped into hull and bonded in on one of the kits, but the other has nothing done to it yet. The frame will need some minor adjustments to make it sit perfectly into the inside of the moulded hull - I suspect this is โnormal โ as every hull moulding will be slightly different inside as the hull laminations are laid up. Both kits are for the shorter length model (31โ long?) and are yet another two more models awaiting my attention to get them finished. When I do get around to looking at them I will be making some changes to the front cabin window shape (make card templates to a better shape) then adjusting the roof formers - both mods being made to remove that awful dome shaped front cabin. New plywood parts will be cut from the templates and the original kit parts for the front cab window and roof formers will be scrapped. Bob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Madwelshman (
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Another step forward Chris, another step closer to getting it on the water, nice one.
The 31 hull is such an unmistakable and classy design. One day you'll be able to have your own single make boat show, with a majority of the range covered ๐ One of the 34" 31s I've got, the cabin front window looks similar to yours, looking possibly a little narrow(not meant as a criticism of yours in any way) but mine, doesn't have much deck width either side of that cabin front edge. I have always assumed it's a President kit, but dont know for sure ๐ค Will ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Yours looks a LOT better than the President Huntsman 31 Chris.
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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You are right Bob. I altered the front screen on my build to make it look more like the real thing but I think I may of overdone it. It looks OK from head on but looking down the roof is a bit flat.
As well as the dome I don't think the window is wide enough to get the proportions correct. If I was building mine again I would widen the window a bit as the deck either side looks a bit too wide to me and put a bit more curvature in the top of the window and hence the roof. ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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I will try to find a seller of the current Model Boats magazine in the Ainsdale area and buy a copy if I can so I can read your article Chris as it is a subject that genuinely interests me quite a bit,.
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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The President model of the Huntsman 31 does not โlook rightโ in the area of the front cab window.
This model shows it as having a curved top and a domed roof to match it, but neither of these is correct. Pictures of the real Huntsman 31 show it as looking much neater in this area and is something that I would like to improve (make it more accurate) when I make my own future companion for my Swordsman so that it looks as good as the real boat does. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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The 34" Precedent model would fit the bill as well but I wanted to have them all at the same scale. There are drawings at a scale of 1:12 that were produced by Vic Smeed but I produced my own as I was going to build the Sport version originally and also like to be able to print them out on my A3 printer.
For those interested in Fairey models there is, ahem ๐, an article in the current Model Boats Magazine which details all the drawings and kits available. ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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A 1:12 scale Huntsman 31 sounds like it could be a nice size model, both to drive and transport .
31โ is compact enough to carry and large enough to see clearly out on the lake. Very interesting ! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Yes Bob, all my Fairey builds are to the same scale. Faun is only 16.5" long which has made it a challenge to get all the equipment in.
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๐ฌ Re: Faun & Huntsman 31 Painting
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง zooma (
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Is your Huntsman 31 also to 12th scale Chris , making it 31โ long?
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