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    Precedent Perkasa MTB 49 1/2" Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46" Veron Fairey Huntsman 28 42" Precedent Fairey Huntsman 36" Aerokits Sea Commander 34" Aerokits Sea Rover 29 1/2" SLEC Fairey Huntress 23"
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    Unknown 26" Pilot Boat
    One of the latest projects I have bought, a 26" Pilot boat. Initially i thought maybe a Lesro model, but the Lesro Pilot boat is bigger, at just over 33" in length. Anyone got any ideas what make it may be?
    Precedent Fairey Huntsman 46 1/2"
    I bought this Huntsman 31 off a guy I used to work with. Another one in need of some TLC (bit of a theme here isn't there ๐Ÿ™„ ) Originally ic powered, then converted to brushed electric and once I get around to doing this one, it will be converted, like the others, to brushless lipo power.
    Aerokits Sea Commander
    Yet another boat in need of some TLC that I bought recently. An Aerokits Sea Commander. As you can see by the pictures. There are a few bits missing and some of the ply has delaminated (front half of the keel and a couple of bulkheads). My skills aren't such yet that I feel I could strip it down and replace those parts, so for now at least, my intension is to inject adhesive between the laminations, clamp them securely until the adhesive has cured. At least this will get some more strength back into them and help preserve it until I feel brave enough to do the job properly. Like my other boats, this will also be brushless and lipo powered.
    Precedent Perkasa 49 1/2"
    This is my Perkasa MTB that I built with my Dad in the 80's. I sold it in the 90's and purely by chance, was able to buy it back again in the late 00s. Originally we fitted it with a 22cc Kawasaki Strimmer engine, with a centrifugal clutch and pull start, it was much better than ic and needing to get it in the water asap so it didn't overheat. It also gave the option of being able to stop moving, purely by dropping the throttle, unlike ic. With the air cooled Strimmer engine, I could start it, let it idle while i put the wheelhouse etc on and not need to rush to get it in the water. Anyway, when I bought it back, it was looking pretty sorry. Lots of bits were either damaged or missing. I have removed the 22cc petrol engine and will be converting it to brushless and lipo power. Before then though, I have lots of bits to either make or repair. More pictures will follow, when I get it back down from the loft in the new year.
    42 inch Veron (presumably) Fairey Huntsman 28
    This is the latest model that I have purchased. From it's dimensions, I believe it to be a Veron Huntsman, as it looks very much like the ones that I have seen whilst searching on the interweb and the length/beam both match. It was advertised as an unfinished project. But, apart from a few bits that are missing, cabin roof, engine cover/deck floor, glazing, it's mostly there, just in need of some sort of power plant and radio gear. Really looking forward to wetting her bottom ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคž
    Aerokits Sea Rover, I think? 29 1/2 inch
    This terribly unloved looking model was advertised on Facebook marketplace and wasn't too far from me. I thought from the described dimensions it might be a Sea Rover, so took a chance on it. There was only one picture with the advert, so i wasn't completely sure what I was actually going to be presented with on arrival. The cabin sides have both had it and a few other bits are missing. So, like my smaller Huntsman, I have to get hold of a plan/parts diagram to make the relevant damaged/missing parts. In the past, it had it's ic engine removed and converted to electric. I presume initially with just one motor and that I'm guessing wasn't enough so, they fitted an additional 2 propshafts and motors. I now have to remove the extra shafts and convert back to a single one instead. With brushless power, one prop will be more than enough to achieve the scale speed (and a little extra in reserve).
    Pearla Malta - Precedent Fairey Huntsman 31 aft cabin 34 inch
    A Fairey Huntsman that I recently won on a well known auction site. There are a few things that need sorting, the superstructure is way too tall to be accurate and scale, so I fear a new one will have to be made, but that means 'TRYING' to find a set of plans or templates for the Precedent Huntsman. Can anyone help with this? Pretty please ๐Ÿคž The extra skegs underneath? No idea why they have been added, certainly won't help anything other than straight line running. Plans are, sort the above items, brushless conversion, then just enjoy using it. Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Sea Commander
    22 days ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    I do like a Sea Commander, they're a great example of a semi scale classic motor boat aren't they.
    I must admit, yours is much tidier/more complete than mine, I still have loads to do, but it was a bit of a basket case when I got it, so I have done a fair bit on it already.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Pleasure Cruiser
    22 days ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    That reminds me a little of a Dowty Turbocraft in design (a boat that I'm a big fan off and would love to try and build one day). Obviously it isn't water jet drive like a Dowty, but still, it's not dissimilar.
    Very nice ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Condor
    22 days ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    What an absolute corker.
    You've done a fantastic job of creating a really realistic looking boat there ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ SURFACE DRIVE EXPERIMENT
    1 month ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    They don't work for me either Chris.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Veron Marlin Cruiser Rebuild
    2 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    I like the modifications you've made to it.
    I've always felt the Marlin is a little different looking, odd maybe, from some angles.

    Looking forward to hearing what running gear you decide upon and how well it performs.

    Will
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    2 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Great idea JB and a good pair of boats to build and test it out on.

    Will be following this with interest.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ Vintage Sea Commander Sea trials.
    3 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Colin, great to see yet another of the classics restored and now getting some use. I hope that I am able to finish my own Sea Commander to such a good standard.

    I agree with your comment regarding the battery weight. Whilst the speed may well be scale like, the boat does appear to sit fairly low in the water, so I believe that a lighter battery would definitely be a good call as it would increase freeboard.

    Overall though, a great looking model, well done and time to enjoy it now. Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 1954 35 ft. Chris Craft Sport Fisherman / Cruiser
    4 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Very nice indeed.
    Looking forward to any updates as and when.
    Have fun with your build.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Finally the Rapier
    4 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Steve, I must admit, it appears a tidy boat and I like the colour scheme, except there's a lot of white with all of that superstructure, so maybe a change with some of that would break it up a bit. The hull and deck I like though.
    Hope your good lady is well on the mend and you start to get some more model time soon.

    My boats. Well, I've put some paint on the Arrow, to tidy it up a bit. Looks better now than it did, but not finished with that yet.
    I'd like one of the Huntsman 28 on the water 1st and then it'll be one of the Lesro boats, Sportsman maybe, or Javelin.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Javelin
    4 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Looks like you've had a good score, with this and the Rapier.
    Well done Steve.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Finally the Rapier
    4 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Very nice Steve, that looks in great condition.
    What are your plans for it?

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 1953 Colonial Sport Cruiser
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    What a great looking boat.
    A worthy addition I would say.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Chriscraft in action
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    She looks really good on the water.
    Cracking model, fair play.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ WANTED, December 1964 Mag Vic Smeed Remora
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Check your messages Pete ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    ๐Ÿ“ WANTED, December 1964 Mag Vic Smeed Remora
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Pete, I think that I may have this, I'll have to double check. If my thoughts are correct, I'm happy to copy the relevant pages for you.

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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    That's a very kind offer Ron, thank you very much.

    I am more than happy to send you a copy of the plan to look at, but please don't feel that i am asking you to do anymore than just have a look at it Ron

    I should add, that this quest has mostly been to increase my knowledge around model boat building and has never been a plea for anyone to do the hard part for me.
    Yes, myself and Zooma would like to build a Stiletto each, so the end result is obviously being able to draw up the templates needed to build them, but this thread has been about gaining the understanding of how some of you are able to work this out from just 2 view plans.

    I'm so thankful to everyone who has taken the time to reply to my post, no matter how detailed your reply has been, its all knowledge that I'm grateful you're willing to share with me and others on these great forums.

    Ron, the plan I have is on my laptop and not my phone, so I will send it to you tomorrow when I get home from work.

    I did have another go last night on some 3d software, at drawing templates using my original 45 degree line method and they look like they could well be correct/close, but how accurate, I do not know.
    It has still been interesting having a go though and my plan is to do the same for an Aerokits plan that I also have a copy of the templates for and see how similar (or different) mine are in comparison to those that were done by drawing around parts before a build.

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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you very much JB for your detailed reply, that all makes complete sense.
    I will give that method a go and see how I get on with it.

    Thank you.
    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Ron, the only measurements that I have are length and beam, which is a good start at least.
    The same applies to any of my Aerokits plans, I know each ones LOA and beam.

    I will have to find my protractor etc from my school days, I think I still have it somewhere and I'll get a set of dividers too.

    Thank you
    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hugh, have a look at the image attached to my 1st post. If that is what that refers to, then yes.

    I would like to know how to draw 2d diagrams for bulkheads etc, from a plan that only has two views, a side view and a top view.
    An example of such, would be a Lesro or Aerokits plan.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: MFA Spearfish 4
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    4x Spearfish, wow, that's where they've all gone ๐Ÿ˜‚
    I'm a big fan of Fairey boats, one of which is what these were based upon.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vic Smeed Remora
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    One of the other members, Zooma, he has a Remora too.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lesro Sportsman
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Did you add a picture with this post?
    I only ask, because I'm not seeing one?
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lesro Javelin
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    I thought they were.
    Like I say SLEC sell a couple of Lesro kits, but will sell plans separately, I emailed them a couple of weeks ago and they told me that.
    So Lesro Arrow will give you the right hull in both shape and length/beam.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lesro Javelin
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Zooma/Bob, how long ago was that, because when I was searching for a plan for the Stiletto, everything pointed towards them being closed.
    I could be wrong though.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lesro Javelin
    5 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    SLEC will sell you a Rapier plan, if that's of any use to you 200TDi.
    As Bob and Harry have said, the hull is the same, just from the deck up that differs.

    Alternatively, SLEC will sell you a Lesro Arrow plan, that's the Javelins' smaller brother of the same design.
    You could then get that scanned and blown up to the same dimensions as a Javelin.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    6 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Thank you Ron.
    I have seen that method or examples of mentioned before, but not tried it myself.
    Also, thank you for the picture, handy for reference.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    6 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Ron, none in particular really. The Aerokits thing was more of an example if I'm honest.
    The one myself and a few others are working on, is a Lesro Stiletto.

    But this quest is more for the knowledge of learning how its done and trying for myself to see if I can actually create the drawings needed to build a boat just from a two view plan.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ How do you draw bulkheads etc, from a 2 view plan?
    6 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hi folks, I have a few boat plans, such as Aerokits ones which as many will know are only 2 view and have no bulkheads etc shown on the plan.

    Is there a relatively easy way of drawing these templates from a 2 view plan or can anyone point me towards an example/description of how to do this?

    I have seen one where you draw a line at what appears to be 45 degrees from above one end of the upper view and extend the line down below the lower view.
    You then draw lines out from reference points on the top view, also from reference points on the lower view.
    The lines drawn on the upper view, when they meet the 45 degree line, you continue them at 90 degrees down past the relevant reference point on the lower view (if that makes sense).
    I have no idea if that is a good way or if there is a better/more accurate way to achieve this.

    I am also aware that there are templates floating around for quite a few of the Aerokits range, but I would still like to have a go at drawing some myself, so that I know how to do it for future reference.

    How do you guys draw templates?

    Thanks in advance

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ“ Drawing templates - What's the easiest way?
    6 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    Hi folks, I have a few boat plans, such as Aerokits ones which as many will know are only 2 view and have no bulkheads etc shown on the plan.
    Is there a relatively easy way of drawing these templates from a 2 view plan or can anyone point me towards an example/description of how to do this?

    I have seen one where you draw a line at what appears to be 45 degrees at the end of the upper view and draw lines out from reference points on that view, plus from the lower view (if that makes sense) but have no idea if that is a good way or if there is a better/more accurate way to achieve this.

    I am also aware that there are templates floating around for quite a few of the Aerokits range, but I would still like to have a go at drawing some myself, so that I know how to do it for future reference.

    Thanks in advance

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lesro Sportsman II
    6 months ago by Madwelshman ( Midshipman)
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    One of my boats, the previous owner had stuck 2x 1/2" drive deep sockets into the bottom of the hull, 1x 17mm and 1x 19mm. They have been removed now and I plan on altering battery location, plus a change to a brushless motor from brushed, so between those two things, that should move some weight further aft and remove the need for things like sockets to be stuck in there.

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