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๐ฌ Re: Propeller Shafts and Propellers to Complete the Drive Train
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง peterbro (
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Hi John, Chris, thanks for the suggestions.
Adding a jig on the outside of the hull is something I think I'd do next time - the metal motor mount I used basically provided the interior jig, but I eyeballed the outside, which was OK, but fiddly, and prone to error. I also like the idea of the putty/filler on the underside for sand ability. I did try to sand the epoxy on the bad side, but it is pretty impervious, which is good from a fixing perspective, but less so from a fixing mistakes perspective. For glue application I've reverted back to my primary school days with the wee plastic spreaders! ▲
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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It is quite nerve-wracking gluing in prop shafts for the first time, so well done.
As well as the tape method recommended by ToraDog the way I do it is to fill the underside first with epoxy putty or P38 filler which as well as blocking the hole can be filed and sanded to shape. I then fill from inside the hull using the 2 part epoxy which I drip into place using small timber offcuts and cocktail sticks. As you have found out the glue still needs to be runny to do this so best to make up several small amounts. I know you have painted now but did you try filing the epoxy on the underside? But as you say it won't really be seen. Looking forward to seeing it on the water. Chris ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Propeller Shafts and Propellers to Complete the Drive Train
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง JOHN (
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hi there,
As has already been mentioned, adding electrician tape to the outside of the hull, whilst epoxying your propeller shafts in place, is one of the best methods. Also, one of the tips which I learned was to make 2 plywood templates up with the correct distance between your prop shafts and the hull & this is placed over the end of the prop shafts to keep them in line. One plywood jig on the outside and one identical plywood jig on the inside over the prop shafts. This helps keep the shafts parallel whilst the epoxy sets. John ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Propeller Shafts and Propellers to Complete the Drive Train
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง peterbro (
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Thanks, that's a handy tip for next time. I don't think it would have completely saved me from the epoxy going off, but if I combine those two lessons I'll likely get a better result next time.
I've got a variety of options with the throttles including various mixing options in the transmitter, fully independent control and using a splitter to run both motors from a single channel. I'm starting with fully independent control, but I'll definitely have a play around with the configuration of it to try and find what works best for me and my hand eye coordination limitations. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Propeller Shafts and Propellers to Complete the Drive Train
3 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ ToraDog (
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You have done a wonderful job.
I wish I had been able to advise you to apply tape to the outside of the hull around the shaft tubes. It makes for a neater look. I would expect that you could mix your throttle with your "other" throttle and use just your throttle stick most of the time while running you boat. The only time you need independent is playing and perhaps docking. You should be able to do this.๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Motors, ESCs and All The Rest
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง peterbro (
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The centre of gravity seems pretty central when I balance it in my hand and it looks pretty level by eye, it just doesn't match the water line on the model.
If it runs OK, I guess that just means I got the waterline wrong! I haven't thought about an absolute number for the propeller shaft angle before tbh, but looking at the plans with that in mind, 10 - 12 degrees is roughly what it has them set at. Something around 12 degrees should be achievable - there might be some tweaking to do with the motor mount and I'll have to get the holes in the hull in the right place. I have some thinking time left as the hull is too tight for a drill, so I'm waiting for a pin vice that will take a drill bit big enough for the propeller shaft holes. ▲
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Remove Ads ๐ฌ Re: Motors, ESCs and All The Rest
3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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Those motors are a bit big and a high kV and probably quite heavy but as you have them positioned quite far back they shouldn't be contributing to the slight nose down attitude too much. The weight of the prop shafts and tubes should help with this though. Have you been able to achieve a fairly low angle circa 12 degrees for the prop shaft given the position of the motors?
You certainly had some work with the motor mounts! But all nicely done as is the rudder connection. Will be interesting to see how it goes. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Motors, ESCs and All The Rest
3 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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3 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง peterbro (
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I've got a couple of ideas for how to set things up.
There's plenty room at the sides for the arms that came with the tillers, but not quite enough at the stern. I can trim them a bit if necessary, but I don't think they'll need a full 180 degrees of movement to provide decent steering so it might well be OK as is. As for the servos, I've got a couple of ideas to try. My initial plan is to use the arms aligned as they are in the picture and connect each outer tiller arm to the corresponding outer arm on a single servo sitting on the keel. If that doesn't work, I'll try something that is probably more standard - using an 'L' shaped arm on one of the tillers, connecting the tiller arms aligned with the keel together and connecting the other leg of the 'L' arm to a single servo. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Rudders Fitted
3 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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How much clearance do you have between the control horns and the sides? Are you using two control rods linked to separate servos for each rudder?
I always thought the rudder control horns were linked together with a rod fixture and then the control rod/s to the control arm of the single servo. Maybe itโs too early to ask about this and you have it all figured out.๐ค ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Second Layer of Hull Planking Complete
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ฟ premecekcz (
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nice, precise work
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๐ฌ Re: Side Planking Completed
6 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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Keep at it, looks like you have it well under control.
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