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📝 Grandsons Elver
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg (
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This is one with a difference - found this 15" Elver vane sailboat by Vic Smeed in a 1980 copy of Model Maker (revived). Made up two kits to sail with grandson. Laser makes cutting out so easy - but also highlights the shortcomings of old plans. This is one of the kits - spot the deliberate mistake - forgot to do the cut out for the skeg. Easy enough to rectify as its only 3mm Balsa. Keel Skeg & Rudder from 3mm Liteply - vane from 1/32 ply
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💬 Re: Grandsons Elver
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg (
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Hi Martin - its a very different boat - parts were all there .....
Will update the file and let anyone who wants have a copy as jpg ▲
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5 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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That seems to me to be the profile, looking from the side rather than down.
But I see what you mean. Not actually drawn but I would assume fitted within and flush with the ends of the side skins anyway😉 Top stringer and keel aren't shown either but seem to be pretty intuitive! 😎 ▲
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5 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 (
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Thanks Doug,
I ment on the part where you are looking down below the deck (centre of photo) Martin555. ▲
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💬 Re: Grandsons Elver
5 years ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich (
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It's slap bang in the middle Martin 😉🤓
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5 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 (
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Hi Red,
Are you going to do a little build log so we can see this project change from drawings to finished model? Also it may be me but I can't see the transom bulkhead marked on the drawings. Martin555. ▲
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📝 Photos
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg ( Commodore)
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Better half taking some photos - will post those as we go along. Sadly started late as I had the dreaded lergy so will probably have to finish them on my own. Martin - the parts are all there - transom is very undersize - first photo was of the actual cut parts - with the laser its so easy as I said - and you can minimise wastage.
Unfortunately most of the formers are slightly undersize and F1 too deep. Will amend the cutfile as errors are found - that's how you get it right in the end
Unfortunately most of the formers are slightly undersize and F1 too deep. Will amend the cutfile as errors are found - that's how you get it right in the end
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📝 more pics
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg ( Commodore)
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Skinny bits are the chine - everything except mast & booms shown in original photo. Planking is vertical bits of 3" wide 3mm balsa. if you look closely you can see the problem with the formers.
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5 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 (
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Coming along nicely Red.
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📝 Problem Bulkheads
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg ( Commodore)
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This photo gives a much better idea of the problem with the undersized bulkheads/formers. Next post will be after fixing bulkheads and fitting steering vane tube for rudder. Hopefully interior sealed too prior to planking.
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💬 Re: Problem Bulkheads
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg (
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Hi Martin - new former's in - but models shelved until there is more time to get to them. Been busy with orders - Grandson Damien asking the same question.........
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5 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 (
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Hi Red,
How are the Elver twins getting on ? Martin555. ▲
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5 years ago by 🇳🇿 jbkiwi (
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Had the same problem with the ST Red, (Model Boats mag 1976) thought the drawings were scale but were out by miles and unequal side to side. Took a bit of work to even get it close. You only find out once you start building, so next time I go off profiles in a mag I'll be having a good look at them.
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💬 Re: Problem Bulkheads
5 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg (
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Hi Martin,
will correct parts and cut new for 2nd boat - so its sort of mk1 & mk2. Worked out yet another problem on drawing - keel shown as same length as deck - should be 1/8" (3mm) (the the transom thickness) shorter .......... Easy to cut off a bit with balsa so not a train smash. ▲
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5 years ago by 🇬🇧 Martin555 (
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It must feel a little strange working on both boats at the same time.
You just have to remember what boat you did on what on LOL! Martin555. ▲
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📝 3rd kit cut
4 years ago by 🇿🇦 redpmg ( Commodore)
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Have to restart projects as another Elver is required for the other grandson . Decided to use the old 3' wide balsa i have - must be really ancient - both makes are history long ago .
So picture attached . As soon as this third boat is at the same stage as the others will continue the blog as they all have to be finished by November..............One for a Birthday and the other coming to visit in December...........
So picture attached . As soon as this third boat is at the same stage as the others will continue the blog as they all have to be finished by November..............One for a Birthday and the other coming to visit in December...........
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4 years ago by 🇳🇿 jbkiwi (
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Hi Peter, that's the only balsa model shops used to sell in NZ for years, - apart from the NZ Airsail company brand which was processed here (gone now). We now have Australian plantation and imported processed, and US Bud Nosen balsa available. Most art shops sell balsa now too which is good. Bought an old 1975 UK Saturn Models Skydancer part built kit from Airsail (were selling on behalf) the box of which was full of old Solarbo balsa sheets, hardwood strips etc which was very useful and has lasted me for about 12 years,- (don't think the shop realized or it might have disappeared,) still using some remaining hardwood in the new boat!
Are these Elvers going to be R/C ? JB ▲
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4 years ago by 🇨🇦 Newby7 (
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Then it will be off to the races to see who has the fastest boat.
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