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    For my builds I use mainly HobbyWing Quicrun and also have a couple of their water-cooled Seaking. I think they are a good balance between quality and cost. Wheelspin Models are my usual supplier.

    I was a bit disappointed to find that I can't use the program card for the 30amp Quicruns which I use in my slower craft. But as I only need to change one parameter, namely to give Forward/Reverse the counting the blips method has worked so far! Found out afterwards that the 30amp Seaking can use the card, go figure!
    Scratch building 7 Faireys at a scale of 1:12
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    Keep sources of 'chopping' interference away from them such as Auxiliary BECs and other switching devices..
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    I donโ€™t think you can beat Mtronikโ€™s ESCโ€™s
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    ? What esc do you use?
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    I'm using a 30mm diameter 3 blade brass prop (as in all my builds but with different diameters) and I reckon one of those would be just the ticket. As for size the rule of thumb for brushed motors was not to exceed the diameter of the motor but with brushless they can turn a bigger one so 35mm could be a good choice.

    It depends to some extent on how much room you've got and what looks right - does the plan show the prop? But ignoring that for now a 35mm or 40mm would work.

    I see that your model can in fact plane, though in all probability they were used at mostly more sedate speeds so that the champagne wasn't spilled!

    As to Faireys. I don't know if this is accurate but I view them as our equivalent of your Chris Craft boats. The wooden hulled sports cruisers were built in the 1960s and 70s and were raced successfully.

    As to which one it depends on whether you want to build from scratch, from a wood pack as per Sarik or from a complete kit. Favourite? I like them all in different ways but do have a soft spot for the little Huntress but also like the Swordsman with the raised aft cabin a lot. SLEC do a nice kit for the latter but I think it's a little small at only 25" long which is why I'm building my own (started before the kit came out!) at 1:12. There are plans for a similar Swordsman at that scale if you want to scratch build.

    What could be a favourite though is the Huntsman 31 Sport which doesn't have an aft cabin, just a big open cockpit and was primarily built for off-shore racing. The hull is the sleekest of the wooden hulled boats and looks very nice. There were never any kits or drawings produced for one but it's easy enough to alter an aft cabin version as a few folks have done. I started to build one but then decided I'd got enough full cockpit Faireys and so modified it to the more common aft cabin version. Here's my side view that I used for the build.

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    So I've sourced a 2826 1400kv for my Sarik SG&K Runabout (33") should be about right then...good to know. What prop size are you using? I've been eyeing the Fairey series, don't know much about them, any one particularly better than the others? Your favourite?? Enquiring minds want to know. Cheers!
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    Hi - it's 23" long and is basically a Fairey Huntress hull with more freeboard, so in essence a planing hull.

    The motor is an Overlander Batteries Tornado Thumper V3 3530/14 1100KV. It's over-powered really as a 28mm dia. would be fine, but as I said it's nice and smooth on take-off and I run it on a 2S. I was tempted to try it on the plane but as the full-size boat only had a 20hp engine for river and lake use I've managed to restrain myself!

    Infact I've got a couple of Huntresses which Dave Milbourn built with 28mm dia. motors which plane well on 3S. Not that you want planing performance with your gentleman's cruiser!

    I'm building a Fairey Fisherman 27 which is a bigger and heavier displacement model and I'm trying a 2826/18 1000KV motor in that, so it will be interesting to see how that performs. I can always fit another motor if needs be.

    But that's the good thing with brushless motors, their latitude and a whole range will work dependent on the battery voltage.
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    What size is the boat in your picture with outrunner kv? I'm trying to do the same thing with a S&G Gentleman's runabout.
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    Outrunners are generally more torquey than the equivalent sized inrunner. So for a large model, say 3-4 feet in length, and outrunner would be my 1st choice. In comparison, as Chris says, for a small, fast, lightweight model, I'd go for an inrunner, they're usually higher revving, but spin a smaller diameter propeller compared to the outrunner.

    Will
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    Thanks for all the info guys at least I know roughly what people are talking about now
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