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๐ฌ Re: Amati Riva Aquarama
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hi. Thanks for your comments. I must say I cannot fault the quality of the kit. All the wood and fittings are top quality. I think the instructions are bias towards a display model and the motorisation is more of an after thought! My wife bought the kit and the motorosation kit for my 70th birthday as I've always drewelled over the beauty of these boats. I just hope I can do it justice! I've also got an Aerokits RAF crash tender which I originally built in my 20's and refurbished during the 1st lockdown. I've now added a spray rail along the waterline which has improved its performance and stops it getting wet through! Cheers Duncan
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED ( Lieutenant)
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It looks like you have put a lot of work into her. It's a shame that things are not like the plans advise. I started to build the AeroNuat Sports Boat. That is not a very good build boat. The side stringers are to frail to do a nice strong build. It is a similar hull to the early Aerokits Sea Hornet. The sid and bottom skins I was able to use small brass pins for fitting as I did with the 34" RAF Crash Tender. I got the side skins onto the AeroNaut hull but the bottom skins were too small. And I used a build board that was with the kit. I have fitted the small 380 style motor that it advises. It would be hard to fit that once the bottom skins are on. I shelved the build for now as I got disheartened with it. It has now stood on my mancave window sill for 18 months or so. I wish I had got the Sea Hornet again. I felt the ยฃ80 I spent on it was a waste. They seem to use cheaper and thinner wood ๐คand charge the earth for it now. โน๏ธ I hope you get to finish your boat successfully.Happy building.๐ค๐ค
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๐ฌ Re: Amati Riva Aquarama
2 years ago by ๐ฆ๐บ Gt108 ( Master Seaman)
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I built this kit some years ago but found it too small and heavy to be a practical runner once fitted with 2 motors batteries and esc etc Nice to look at for display only though
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๐ฌ Re: Amati Riva Aquarama
2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Duncan,
Looking foward to your updates. The Riva is one of my many favorites๐ Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Planking
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DPTrainer ( Able Seaman)
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Thank you Chris for your comments. Progress is temporally on hold at the moment because it has been too cold in my outdoor workshop at the back of the garage - basically because I'm trying to be careful with the electricity bill ! As you probably know prices for gas and electricity have unfortunately gone through the roof! I think I will use epoxy with no fibreglass on the inside of the hull (where possible) and like you say use varnish on the outside. Thanks again. Duncan
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๐ฌ Re: Planking
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Hello Duncan
From what I can see from the photo`s looks like a good job you are doing, Amati as well as being one of only a few companies making kits today are doubly unusual in that they seem to like lovely wood. I have completed a couple of their kits, the small cruiser and the Bella yacht both turned out well with good straight grained wood in the box. As far as preservation of that which you will be unable to get at after completion all I would recommend is if you are not completely happy using epoxy then several coats of good varnish is a simple cost effective way of achieving much the same thing. I am very interested in seeing the model completed, there are not many modellers that do not like the lines of a Riva. Regards ChrisG Sorry I had no intention to confuse but I now realise that the Bella Yacht and the Diva were in fact Aeronaut models and not Amati. I have only bought plans from Amati. Its very much an age thing, my memory is going along with many other things but looking at some others I have little to complain about. Unlike you I am fortunate in that the `boss` has allowed me the use of a spare bedroom for a play room and only have to go to the garage on occassions for things like rubbing down and smelly grp work or painting. I think it was a calculated move on her part as I am no longer within reach of the on/off tv switch so she can watch her share of rubbish. Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Preventing water damage
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Ha ha! Yes I even remember forgetting the bung on a full size speed boat! It was struggling to get up onto the plane and then I realised what I had done! Most embarrassing since I had a couple of passengers with me. Got back to the slipway and drained it so no harm done in the end but there was lots of laughter! Cheers Duncan.
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๐ฌ Re: Preventing water damage
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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It is very difficult trying to work in the cold to say nothing of increased curing times for paints and glues.
As for water ingress, this is often a problem where the plan instructs the builder to restrict access to areas of the hull and I will deliberate for days before glueing that deck or bulkhead that does that. On a yacht I recently finished although inner hull access was possible it was a right pain and on her maiden trip I noticed after about 30 minutes in the water she was definitely lower. Recovered the boat took it home and repaired the leak in the rudder tube, drilled a small hole in the transom and made a plug to fit. Next trip to the lake, no leak but if in the future water gets in at least I will be able to drain it. I suppose the next problem will be forgetting to fit the plug๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Riva Aquarama - extra bouyancy
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Another thought for you! I haven't used any steam on my build and in just a couple of instances I've used the Amati Plank bender. It works really well. Also I have a hot plank bending tool kit which I haven't had to use as yet. It is from the Model Craft Collection and I got it on Ebay. Cheers Duncan
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Sorry to hear you are having trouble. This Amati kit I think is excellent but I think it was originally envisaged as a display model and the R/c was a bit of an after thought! That's why I have started this blog for a working model as I'm having to think my way though this part of the build. Cheers Duncan
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๐ฌ Re: Riva Aquarama - extra bouyancy
2 years ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney ( Commander)
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Grรผezi Duncan, (Swiss German language for Hello) ๐
I like your idea so far, but I don't know how this material behaves if the hull is leaking. At the moment I am trying to build the Aeronaut Trout with my grandson. He himself would like us to set this up like your boat. The wooden parts are so stiff and small that you can hardly bend them into the right shape even with steam. . The smaller the boat, the harder the processing of the hull. In addition, some parts are not correct, which makes the whole thing even more tricky! Poor grandson, I meant well! well . . My next model will definitely be something similar to yours! Greets from Switzerland Michel-Claude PS:the last picture is me when i lose patience!! ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Riva Aquarama - extra bouyancy
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Hi, Thanks for your comment. What type of finishing polish do you use? Cheers Duncan
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๐ฌ Re: Riva Aquarama - extra bouyancy
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED ( Lieutenant)
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The varnish I use is the same as I have used in the past on a boat I own up on the Norfolk Broads. I have used this and lightly sand between coats then a good polish up at the end you can get a great glass type finish. Used it on model boats in the past. I cannot wait to get back up there and get her sorted out. Due to Covid I have not been near her for 2 years.
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๐ฌ Re: Riva Aquarama - extra bouyancy
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง BOATSHED ( Lieutenant)
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That's a great thing to do. I used to use the cheapy swinging pool snakes. They used to sell them in shops like Poundland. Not seen them lately so I used the central heating pipe covering, the grey stuff from B&Q. I still have a blow up bow shapped thing that the model boat shops used to sell. Way back I used the two part mixing stuff that when mixed it swelled up and filled the bow of the boat. I even went as far as stealing my daughters water wings for bouyancy aid. My problem was though, mainly running the boat out of the side of the pond. Too much of a speed freak, 71 and still not slowing down.
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๐ฌ Re: Second layer of planking
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thank you. I am taking my time as I originally started the model in April last year. Slow and steady as you say. Cheers
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2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Its looking great, its not a race take it steady patience and perseverance is the key.
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๐ฌ Re: Second layer of planking
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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I am very interested in your method of planking and the mahogany I love, must try it sometime. The boat will look fabulous when finished as it is a classic and I look forward to seeing the continued build and how your modifications allowing it to be a working model, progress.
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๐ฌ Re: Amati Italian Runabout (Riva Aquarama) for use on water
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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Thanks Trev. In that case I'll probably just epoxy the inside of the hull which is still bare wood. I just want to make sure it is water tight so that I don't get any water damage ! ๐
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ pressonreguardless ( Rear Admiral)
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I don't think the Epoxy is necessary at this point. If it is used it should be applied on raw wood.
Also use the correct hardener to achieve a clear finish. Total Boat and West have these hardeners. Good Luck Trev ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Amati Italian Runabout (Riva Aquarama) for use on water
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Sounds good and certainly looks good to me, that mahogany and the quality of the planking you have achieved should not be covered in my opinion. I am not sure why you are thinking of epoxy finish as well as two coats of varnish, maybe because I find epoxy a lot more difficult to work with than varnish and if varnishing is carried out well the finish can be fantastic as well as giving adequate protection.
Whatever the model is coming along very well you should be proud. Regards ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 1st coat of varnish
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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It is the 1st time I have tried building a planked model. I think the main thing is taking your time. I spent quite a lot of time cutting and then sanding the end of the planks to get a really good fit. I started build in April 2021!! Having said that I probably only fitted no more than 4 planks per day to give the glue time to set hard.
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2 years ago by ๐บ๐ธ DWBrinkman ( Lieutenant Commander)
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Very nice work! I only hope to someday get close to that kind of modeling skill!
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๐ฌ Re: 1st coat of varnish
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง dave976 ( Captain)
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Looking good. Nice neat planking enhanced by the excellent paint finish.
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๐ฌ Re: 1st coat of varnish
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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She looks great, fabulous gloss already. The invention of water based paints has caused the likes of most of us a real `faff` it was great in the day when we did not have to worry about one paint reacting badly with another. They should have restricted water based to emulsion, sorry in my opinion๐ ๐ .
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๐ฌ Re: Overcoming difficulty of fitting rudders and linkages
2 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG ( Lieutenant Commander)
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The hull of your model shown bow on is very impressive, beautiful lines.
I can see that you are having real fun and games trying to shoehorn the steering gear under the stern deck, I don`t think there is an easy answer, on my current project I have abandoned all thoughts of a working model mainly due to space constraints and if good enough it will spend the rest of its days on a coffee table if the boss allows. That of course is not what you want to hear ๐ค I am looking forward to following your build, when finished it will be worth all of the problems. Regards ChrisG ▲
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