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    New project; THUNDER an inland tug
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    ๐Ÿ“ Completion of THUNDER
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Graphics applied so finito. Again, many thanks to VLB for information they supplied & permission to use their logo.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Completion of THUNDER
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I like how you finished Thunder along with the details. Any comments from the folks overseas? Hope you shared the finished product with them too. Looking forward to seeing it on the water and towing or pushing.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Lights
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Thank you Ronald. Information about tug lighting is always useful they are so complicated dependent on tugโ€™s length, length of towing hawser, etc. Nav lights on all boats must be displayed beginning at dusk so it makes total sense that the same applies to towing lights. Day shapes are another complexity.
    Then there are lights for other burdened vessels such as fishing draggers, or vessels unable to respond to the helm.
    Lights & day shapes are indeed a challenge for those sitting for their maritime licenses.
    The tug in the photos is very interesting. Do you have any more photos or info about it?

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lights
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    TD, Laughing My Aโ€ฆ Off about your Charlie comment. I remember him saying they wouldnโ€™t let him take the helm of the tug where he was the chief engineer.
    Thanks. Iโ€™m fortunate I recovered HAMMERHEAD. My helmsmanship rule is to sail in water no deeper than you can safely walk into.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lights
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    Chum,
    Sounds like serious trauma all around! I wish I had been there, but....
    I am glad that you were able to recover Hammerhead. The water gets deep fast there. As for Charlie... he was an engineer, not a deck officer...someone should stand by him while he as the helm๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lights
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Thank you TD. We had a good time at Scarborough. Wx was okay, cloudy with the sun trying to occasionally breakthrough. Around 67ยฐ, light on-beach winds.
    Attendance down from last year. Tim M & Jerome M from Maine there as was Charlie T & Tim L from the club plus several others who I donโ€™t know.
    Couple of mishaps, someone went dead in the water & required a push to shore, Charlie T lost the house on one of his lobster boats after he hit a shore overhanging tree, & my DMS HAMMERHEAD sank. I saw that happening so got it back to shore just as it went totally under! If youโ€™re going to go; go big!!! Looks like only fatality was the rudder servo. Charlie also recovered the house on the far side of the pond, so all the mishaps turned out to be minimal.
    Photo of DMS HAMMERHEAD.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Lights
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    Chum,
    She looks beautiful. How was the event? Pretty snootty downeast, at least until late morning, then it just blew.๐Ÿ˜
    ๐Ÿ“ At todayโ€™s fun float in Scarborough, Maine
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    I always look forward to this sail. Itโ€™s about the only event my club holds that I can attend. My fault not my clubโ€™s.

    ๐Ÿ“ Some additional details; a few more to go
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Photo 1 Aft deck details.
    Photo 2 Life ring on port side. Added closure
    trim around house.
    Photo 3 Anchor not yet secured.
    Photo 4 Mast & light scheme completed.

    Lights non-operational since I never run at nightfall. Things yet to do include graphics, a couple of ventilation stacks, & non-skid strips on the deck where there is no bulwark. Then itโ€™s a finished build.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Some additional details; a few more to go
    3 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Some of those lights on the mast are indicating that you are towing, and I believe they are lit in daylight, dusk, and after sunset, not just after dark. I will check with my tugboat skipper.

    Marcel says, โ€œ 1hr before and after only for nav. lights. Day shapes during the day.โ€

    The Day Shapes: All day shapes are black.

    Towing is a diamond shape on tug and tow.


    https://www.mhpa.co.uk/uploads/Marine_docs/Lights_and_Shapes.pdf
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Some additional details; a few more to go
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Bill, she really looks the part, knocked this one out of the park.. your weathering brought her to life!! She's a keeper!
    Cash
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Some additional details; a few more to go
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Thank you Alessandro. Just enough to improve how it looks but strong enough to take some knocking around. ๐Ÿคž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Some additional details; a few more to go
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great additions. Very realistic.
    ๐Ÿ“ Now, the radar story
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    In an RC boat forum in the U.S. there was an extensive discussion about electrical connection methods between removable parts such as deckhouses and/or the roofs of deckhouses that have operating radars, navigation lights, etc.

    Since I use rare earth magnets to secure removable deckhouses and roofs I particularly liked the suggestion of using those magnets as the contacts. Sounds great; one component serving both as a hold down force & an electrical contact. Yet I vaguely recalled from one of my numerous physics or metallurgy classes that magnets & heat donโ€™t play nice together. Undaunted I proceeded anyway. Using what I thought to be minimal heat to solder the wires to the magnets caused about 85% of their magnetism to be lost. So four additional magnets had to be installed to hold the wheelhouse roof in place. Fortunately I had enough magnets & space to do so.

    Photo 1 Wires from 1.5v output side of buck/boost circuit board soldered to outboard hardly magnetic magnets. Input voltage supplied by rx. Board can be seen on side of wheelhouse. Inboard magnets hold roof in place.

    Photo 2 Radar leads soldered to outboard magnets. Inboard magnets provide holding force to keep roof secured.

    Note to self; donโ€™t make wire connections to magnets. You canโ€™t fool physics!๐Ÿ˜Š

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Now, the radar story
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Thank you for the tip JB; itโ€™s a good one.
    What appealed to me about the use of magnets was the lack of needing very precise alignment of the connectors such as is required by pogo connectors, etc. Your method does combine two functionalities into one.+++.
    I suppose that some slack in the roof wiring could provide flexibility by allowing the male & female ends of the connector to be mated prior to seating the roof. That would reduce the force holding the roof in place but if the roof were to be blown off at least it would not be lost.
    Aha! You spawned another idea in my head. Using an old fashion fuse holder for one lead connection & a small piece of the proper diameter rod for the other lead would allow the rod to snap in. That way almost no slack in the wiring would be required.
    Thanks again.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Now, the radar story
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Chum,

    have you thought of using stereo plugs ? If you have an electronics store nearby, have a hunt through the various plugs. There are a number of different types which are suitable for connecting accessories on the cabin to the power. In my cabin boat model, I used stereo headphone male and female jacks which power all the nav and interior lights. They have a very positive connection, so I have a tapered hardwood wedge to slide under the cabin to remove them. They also hold the cabin down at the front, so have a dual purpose.

    Pic is when they were being fitted.

    You can also use stereo/computer multi pin plugs on a lead on both ends, or the female end end fixed.

    JB

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    ๐Ÿ“ Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Returned home so back at it with THUNDER.

    Photo#1 Overall view.
    #2 Shoulder bitts installed.
    #3 Railings completed.
    #4 Beginning to add some deck clutter.
    #5 Radar now operational; mast started.
    More on the radar installation in the next post.
    Turned out to be an interesting experience.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    Great color scheme Bill!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Excellent photos Alessandro as well as a good history lesson. Ahh, the beauty of Italia; ancient works of architecture & culture amidst modern functionality.

    Today, I saw a very similar but smaller version of the white mega yacht you photographed. It looked quite out of place in Falmouth Harbor.

    One could spend a lot of time in Civitavecchia studying details of the fishing boats & tugboats. Like you Iโ€™m no fan of those huge yachts.

    Thanks for posting these photos & the ones of the AMERIGO VESPUCCI.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Chum444, this is an amazing coincidence.
    Guess where I was yesterday?
    Right at the port of Civitavecchia.

    However, I didn't go there to see fishing boats or tugboats, even though there are many and of various types.
    In another topic of this forum I will explain the reason for my visit yesterday.
    The photos you see were taken by chance because there was little time and the time had to be dedicated to the main objective.
    But you are right, the port of Civitavecchia even if it is not as big as that of Naples and Genoa has all types of ships, in which to take photos.
    The port of Civitavecchia is on average 80 km from Rome.
    It is within the province of Rome but not in the municipality of Rome.
    The port of Rome is Ostia, since the time of its foundation (of the seven kings) but today the port of Ostia is small, it is only a tourist port, with small pleasure boats.
    From the port of Civitavecchia ferries depart for Sardinia, Sicily, Spain and Tunisia, etc. etc. as well as cruise ships.
    It is a multifunctional port, divided into two macro areas with different market dynamics: to the south the one dedicated to tourism, yachting and cruises; to the north the area for commercial traffic, fishing and coastal shipping.
    It is very old, it was founded by Emperor Trajan.
    It is very beautiful because it preserves the Renaissance fortifications.
    "The Rocca, a quadrangular fortification, was built first; then in 1508 Julius II entrusted Bramante with the construction of the Michelangelo fort, which was to be built on ancient Roman ruins. The fort was completed in 1537, perhaps thanks to Michelangelo's contribution. In 1608, under the papacy of Paul V, a lighthouse (the Faro) was erected on the southern end of the breakwater island, 31 metres high. On 26 November 1659, the first stone was laid for the arsenal designed by Bernini, which for a long time would coagulate a good part of the city's economy. Then the crenellated city walls were built, the work of Pier Paolo Florian, commissioned by Pope Urban VIII in 1630, and in 1743, under the pontificate of Benedict XIV, the famous fountain was erected, the work of the sculptor Luigi Van Wittel, known as Vanvitelli, the same one who designed the Royal Palace of Caserta. In 1761, commissioned by Pope Clement XIII, Porta Livorno was built.
    Some of these structures were destroyed by bombing during the Second World War. In particular, in 1943 the Lighthouse, the Arsenal, the Bramante Fort and the Rocca Vecchia were destroyed."

    I did not take photos of the fort and the walls because I was not there for that as already said and I had little time.

    P.S. The Yacht you see among those in the photo, like many other yachts are not my passion. I prefer 12-meter boats (a little more or a little less) rigged as a sloop, with which you can sail and master them with two or three people at most but also alone.

    Chum444, this is the reason for my visit to the port of Civitavecchia (see link at the end):

    forum/151297#151299
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Alessandro. Sorry my Italian vocabulary has been mostly forgotten over the years. Civitavecchia is exactly what I meant. Il mio errore. (I had to look that up).๐Ÿค”

    I assumeyou would see tug & other workboats there.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks for this additional advice, but what do you mean by "citti vecchio"? I don't understand the word, maybe you mean Civitavecchia?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Glad to hear youโ€™re going to give weathering a try. When you search the web you will find many techniques for weathering. Iโ€™ve used one of them, dry brushing, with success. I find it particularly useful for applying rust. Rust is another whole subject as is waterline weathering. I suggest you avoid purchasing the high price weathering kits of pastels that you may see online. You can make most of what you need to accurately weather a model.

    How close are you you to the harbor in the citti vecchio? A good place to see many varied types of vessels & how they weather.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thank you very much Chum444, your advice is useful and precious.
    Really ingenious, it seems simple but brilliant.
    Now that I think about it, when I handled the lifeboats I dirtied and ruined the paint in several places (especially the white part). I immediately thought that it was necessary to repaint. In reality it was more beautiful and realistic before.
    I want to save this text because it contains very useful information for me and for others, and because in the future it will be impossible to find it here.
    The other tricks also seem excellent to me.
    As soon as I have the chance I will do some tests.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Thank you Alessandro. The process is called weathering & it really is mostly a matter of knowing where real boats rust, get dirty, & wear through the paint. Then just move ahead & try it. There are many techniques that work quite nicely.I suggest you do a web search about weathering models. Enough content to occupy your attention for a long time.
    One simple thing as a starting point. Paint your hull & superstructure as early as possible while building. The bumps & scrapes that occur as building progresses create a very realistic appearance.
    I like to use charcoal dust for simulating dirt. Put some dust on your finger tip & stroke in the direction a part would get dirty. On the cabin roof stroke from fore to aft since wind created by the forward motion of the boat would cause dirty streaks in that direction. On cabin sides where railings are attached use downward strokes under the railing pieces that attach to the cabin.
    If you donโ€™t like how it looks wipe everything off with a damp cloth & try it again. If you do like it cover with a thin coat of flat sheen clear.
    Hope this is a help to you.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Photo problem solved; hereโ€™s an update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Chum444, you have a fantastic ability. I admire and envy you because I can't do it at all.
    I try to make parts with maximum realism (to the best of my ability) but then, when I paint, the effect is always that of a scale model and never of a real ship.
    How did you manage to make the painting so realistic?
    Could you illustrate your technique and reveal the tricks?
    You managed to give the "lived" look of a real boat.
    ๐Ÿ“ Update
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Would love to update but cannot post photos.

    ๐Ÿ“ Update & a test posting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Delete. For some reason canโ€™t upload photos.๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ‘Ž

    ๐Ÿ“ A few more details
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Nothing earth shattering but a few more details to make it more interesting. Radar is operational; currently operating on a 1.5v flat battery. Final arrangement will consist of a buck/boost board set at 1.5 v (input 5.5v from BEC) & programmed to a switch on the tx.
    Since I hope to use the boat in steering & towing events included details will be minimized & be durable enough to stand up to hard use.

    ๐Ÿ“ Towing a โ€œmega yachtโ€
    6 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    THUNDERโ€™s first towing commission. Okay; not a mega yacht but all that was lying around that I could tow. Quite a windy day so it was good practice when the wind caught the float toy. Had to speed up to keep it behind the tug.
    In no way is the towing gear correct or complete. However made for a fun outing.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Towing a โ€œmega yachtโ€
    6 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง luckyduck ( Lieutenant)
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    Did you have baby's permission to use their float?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Towing a โ€œmega yachtโ€
    6 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Hey TD. More beer may well make it look like a mega yacht tow.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Towing a โ€œmega yachtโ€
    6 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very good Chum444. Your tugboat does its job very well.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Towing a โ€œmega yachtโ€
    6 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Commodore)
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    Captain!
    Back to the Bar. I am need more beer!
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