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๐ฌ Re: 1st layer nearing completion
4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Duncan I understand you. It's annoying to interrupt work.
I don't have grandchildren, but many other reasons prevent me from continuing the model quickly. Tonight, if I can, I'll paint the cannons. There is another peculiarity in your work. You've built the planking around the propeller shafts. I, however, prefer to complete the planking and then drill it. The differences in model building techniques are always fascinating and I really enjoy looking at other methods. ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Len, very interesting observation.
I would very much like to discuss this topic with you and the other modelers but if the discussion gets too long, as it is likely to happen, we could disturb Duncan's work. For this reason I prefer to open a separate topic and in this topic continue to comment on the work of Duncan's Bruma. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 1st layer nearing completion
4 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ Len1 (
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Just a thought on double planking on real ships is that it adds so much weight to the vessel and that could reduce its load carrying capability and therefore revenue. Maybe double planking on warships would make sense.
This just conjecture on my part and not based on any facts. Len ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 1st layer nearing completion
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง DuncanP (
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Hi Alessandro, Building has come to a halt whilst the grand children are staying with us. Two reasons. 1) I have had to remove everything from their bedroom/modelling room and 2) they keep me that busy I have no time!!
The only progress is the 1st layer of planking is complete. Next stage is filling and sanding. I want to do the sanding outside to avoid dust in the house so that will also be weather dependant! Will update the build blog before the second layer starts.๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 1st layer nearing completion
4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Duncan, I haven't seen any posts on this forum for a while.
I'm glad you've almost finished the first planking and your method is very interesting. Even though I have always started from the top down to the keel, I think yours could be excellent, I will take it into consideration for next time. P.S. No, I've never heard of "double planking" for real ships. Maybe it will even have been done on some real boats. Why not. I ignore it. I am sure that for all (and I mean all) the scale models I have seen to date, in person or on the internet, made with double planking, no real ship (and I mean none) had double planking. In other words: modeling = double planking is always or almost always used even when real models do not require it. real ships = always or almost always single planking. This is why I can say that double planking is above all a modeling technique. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Pond Noodle buoyancy
4 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ LewZ (
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SPQR - Contrary to your statement, I supposed you never heard of "Double Planking" on real boats?
Lew Florida, USA ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Pond Noodle buoyancy
4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Certainly Duncan, it's as you say: the second planking (which only exists in the modeling sector) is usually always easier, because there is already a surface on which to attach the wooden strips.
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๐ฌ Re: Planking
4 months ago by ๐ง๐ช hermank (
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DUNCAN P
what a beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wish i had the real one!๐๐๐ ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisG (
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Hello Duncan
As expected wonderful workmanship from you it is always a pleasure and interesting to note the changes in methods that you often use. I must admit putting the roof on before the sides has me head scratching but on reflection looks a good idea although brave. I continue to look longingly at my build but whilst I am keeping the NHS busy I find it hard to get into the garage where I really need to be to continue. Soon I hope regards to all ChrisG ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Planking
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv (
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Hi I was contemplating starting with diagonal planking and then the fore and aft.
I did it for a 40 inch sail boat and it worked well. With the diagonal planking (45 degrees) you do not try and twist a plank to fit just lay it straight and all the gaps are straight line triangles and easily cut to fit. The Bruma kit I have has half and half balsa and lime, not easy to tell apart! Mine were all mixed up! I am dying to start but felt I had to finish another boat which has been hanging about too long, first. I have got to the part which made me stop in the first place, with trying to solve the problem of a butt joint of the bulwarks at the bow which are sloped etc. The deck already finished so have to be careful. I decided that it was best to leave easily disposable things behind me when I kick the bucket rather than part started boats who no-one wants to know! So I am following the Bruma build with interest. The later 10 page instructions suggest using a hand held steam cleaner for clothes to persuade the planks into position, my daughter said I could use hers as she rarely uses it. But I shall be using aliphatic (yellow) glue which is waterproof anyway. I found that on an earlier boat which I had to rectify mistakes I had made that joints that had been held together with spring loaded clips easily came apart while the ones that were clamped with a screw tore the wood apart. Regards and keep the pictures coming Roy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Planking started
5 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Only when qualified as Full Members Ross.
(By special arrangement with the Site Shop๐. TBA.) Thus far we have as Full Plankers:- Graham93, Robbob, Mturpin, Dave 976 and JBkiwi. Further nominees will be gratefully received and considered. Nominations please to FLEET. Care of RNinMunich, MBNavy Bavarian HQ, Isar Flotilla, Munich. Both hull and deck Plankers will be considered. FLEET, ๐ ▲
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5 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Good start Duncan๐
As a 'Novice Planker' I'm following with interest. Can't wait to see the second layer. Will it be diagonal? What wood will be used? Cheers, Doug๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Link for available sail winches
5 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Thanks so much Duncan.
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๐ฌ Re: Winch setup
5 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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It's strange, but this type of servomechanism is no longer on the market, even Hobby King has it in the catalog but the product is no longer available.
I couldn't even find it on Aliexpress, maybe I'm not good at web searches. Anyway, thanks so much for the link, Duncan. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Winch setup
5 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Duncan, great explanations.
Yes, of course, it was clear that you also intended to command the sails. This is precisely what makes the construction so interesting. You're doing a great job, it's definitely one of the most informative. As for the sail winch, do you have the link? ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Winch setup finally decided
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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Great winch layout
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๐ฌ Re: Winch setup finally decided
5 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Hi Duncan.
I'm very surprised that you do the electrical setup first and then the plating. I did the exact opposite but I'm always fascinated by seeing new (new to me) working methodologies. The electrical configuration is very tidy and precise, exemplary. I am very curious about the system you will use to control the sails, I hope you will insert many photos because that is what interests me most. The Bruma della Mantua is an excellent choice. P.S. Are sail winches like the one used by you still on the market (even online), that you know of? ▲
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