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    Aeronaut Graf Spee
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    ๐Ÿ“ Standoff Scale
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    Growing up in the 70s, it was popular to build "standoff scale" control line models. This was a plane that looked like the original at a distance, but had major changes like a stunt wing, longer fuselage, etc. My boat is definitely standoff scale. At a distance, it looks really good, but up close, you can see the mistakes and shortcuts.

    I have progressed and figured out how to make the deck detachable using a slide-in method. It is quite tight to the hull and seems to align well. I assembled and painted a number of the plastic and wood detail fittings. The provided railings are very nice, look good, but are tedious to install. I am using acrylic paint with a matte clear finish over top for some water resistance. Had to do some work on the stuffing box and rudder mounts to make them completely waterproof.

    The next steps are further painting of the hull and deck, connecting up the motor and radio control, adding a lot of the fittings like the secondary armament and portholes, adding more railings, and testing and ballasting as needed.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Standoff Scale
    28 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking good Whit ๐Ÿ‘
    One minor point!
    Your plan or reference book should show the torpedo mounts fitted closer to the deck edge.
    So that when stowed the sides of the mounts are flush with the deck edge and completely fill the gap left in the railing, which allows the mounts to be trained outboard.
    The mounts themselves are only open at the ends; for loading and firing.
    The central body (top and sides) are enclosed in a turret like cover, with 16 small square hatches in the top and 3 more along each side. Pics of mine to follow๐Ÿ˜‰
    See also the photo on the cover of your Building Instructions.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ Little more progress
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    Plans are really vague in some places but the reference book helps a lot.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Little more progress
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Captain)
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    Two books that may help you a bit, Warships in Profile, Vol 1, and German Naval Camouflage Vol 1,1939-1941. The latter has extensive color plates of her various schemes.๐Ÿ˜
    ๐Ÿ“ Making progress
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    Lots of fiddly details to add to the tower. Hard to do with no written instructions but the plans are good and the reference book is very helpful.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Making progress
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi whittonm, this is quite a dilemma, I've often hit my head on it.

    I don't feel like giving you advice for this type of ship but I have thought about the same problem for other types.
    In one case I made the entire bridge removable, in another case only some parts.
    I would always opt for the greatest possible opening; I really appreciate the fact that I can easily access all the internal parts.
    I couldn't remove the entire deck completely because of the trees but it would have been infinitely more convenient.
    You don't have this problem because you don't have the masts.
    I like the logical reasoning that Toradog did. If we add that Toradog has a lot of specific experience for this type of ship, I would definitely follow his advice.
    In any case, whatever your choice, I will be very interested and curious to see how you do it.
    So please take lots of photos of your creation.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Making progress
    2 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ToraDog ( Captain)
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    My approach to building requires that, except for shaft tubes, everything else in the build should be accessible and removable, if at all possible. I try to make my gun turrets removable so as to create more access to th e hull internals.
    A fully removable deck beckons a couple of issues. Water leakage in a sea being the worst case scenario. If at all possible, a deck fitting into a hull edge is a preferred method. It is more work, but makes a more stable connection and a potentially more watertight seal. With you very limited access thru the deck, I would aim to make the deck, or the vast majority of it, removable.
    Hopefully some more ideas along this line will pop up.
    ๐Ÿ“ How to get access?
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    I am making progress on the superstructure. However, I do need some advice.

    In the past, when building boats like this, I made the superstructure (pilot house, cabin..) removable to allow access to the RC, battery, motors, etc. The removable pieces were held in place with unobtrusive screws, velcro, or similar.

    In this kit, there are no instructions on how to handle access, so I have two options:
    1. Made the two pieces of superstructure removable. This is not straightforward and provides quite limited access. It will be a squeeze to get batteries in and out or maintain the gear. Comments?
    2. Make most of the deck removable. This would provide excellent access but is challenging because the deck is large and thin and there are no obvious unobtrusive ways to hold it in place. I was thinking of buying small powerful magnets from China and using 6 to 10 of them to hold the deck in place. Any other ideas?

    Photo below of the hull and uncut deck with some of the superstructure sitting on top (nothing glued to deck yet).

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: How to get access?
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Len1 ( Lieutenant)
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    I use neodymium magnets which is the name for the small powerful magnets you are referring to. The work quite well and are very powerful and you do not need to use many of them. Be careful as they are brittle and will crack if you allow them to snap together.
    ๐Ÿ“ Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    I bought this kit about 10 years ago from a German model shop. It is definitely old-school, with great detailed plans, detailed stock list, but no instructions beyond a couple of paragraphs. I have not built a model in 20 years but was very active in my youth 50 years ago. I find that my skills have deteriorated and this will not be a great build, but it is enjoyable solving the problems and figuring out how to build this thing.

    It has a plastic hull, a very nice plastic fitting set, but the rest of the kit is wood, with many pieces which have to be cut from printed sheets. Luckily, I have access to a wood shop with jigsaw and sanders.

    I have fitted out the hull, added the motors, and started the superstructure. Stay tuned for further progress, I hope.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง CHRISTOPHERH1 ( Able Seaman)
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    Go for it ! at least the hull is already done.I have built a couple of aeronaut boats Princess and Victoria and they went together well.
    You will enjoy it!
    C.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    My Graupner Graf Spee;147cm, 1/128. Pic #1.
    Pics #2&3; Modelling on a GRAND SCALE; a 30ft Graf Spee capable of carrying two people๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    Will be following your build with great interest Whitton๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    Reference books that I am using. The kagero book is really good.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ whittonm ( Leading Seaman)
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    The ship is 94 cm long and scale of 1:200.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Doogle ( Commodore)
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    Ooh goody, looks like a great project, looking forward to seeing how your build progresses ๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Aeronaut Graf Spee
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Wolle ( Commander)
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    Hello, an interesting project. I'd be happy to look over your shoulder. What is the scale of the ship and how long is it?


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