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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I saw some discussion about those on that other forum Fred, I am reasonably confident that Iโve ended up with one of them? Nice profit margin if you owned all 30 and managed to flog them At ยฃ50-75 a pop!
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Fred ( Lieutenant)
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Hi Pete
Some Atlantic 21 moulding's were put up for sale by some one called "Atlantic Mouldings" I will leave you to make up your mind on this Fred Atlantic 21 Rib mouldings x30 ( Yes thirty ) Please see pics , these are NOT complete kits Option 1. 10 sets ยฃ150.00 Option 2. 30 sets ยฃ400.00 **COLLECTION ONLY** Workshop clearout ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Fred ( Lieutenant)
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Hi Skydive
I did have one of the original kits, and from memory I had two sets of "C" cells going down the sides of the Rib, a BOB's board in the centre (time before esc) and a servo after that going out to the two outboard's. Hope that is of some help Fred ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, worth it, no not really in reality, however as itโs probably the only way of getting a starting point I bought it anyway. Certainly not a lot for the money especially when you add everything else required!
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Well Sy, the guy on Ebay has put another up for sale,
buy it now for ยฃ75, was interested, but reading your impression has put me off a little, saying it is only a part kit, I nearly got one from 'Models by Design' who did a hull in F/G, but of course they are gone now, do you think the bits are worth the money?๐ Cheers, Pete ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I too am looking forward to this build log.
Going by your previous builds this will be fantastic. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Fred, just so happens Iโve read that thread a million times, as itโs got some very useful info there and will I refer to it often. It would have been even better if it had shown his electronics! Having spent hours searching for info on the original kit, that build is about the best of it. Thank you very much for sharing though and I hope you enjoy my attempt of replicating This lovely boat.
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Fred ( Lieutenant)
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Hi Skydiver
I know this is from another forum but have you read this ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers Bill, hope I dont disapoint!๐
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๐ฌ Re: Lesro Atlantic 21 RNLI RNLB RIB 1:12 scale
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Really looking forward to following this blog.
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๐ฌ Re: A gentle start....!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Letโs hope so Bill ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Hi Simon.
We are all like kids with new toys when we get something like this arrive. Itโs going to be a good project Regards Bill ▲
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๐ฌ Re: A gentle start....!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, the Atlantic 21 being 21foot in length-full sized, this model works out at 22 inches long by 7 inches beam, so not much bigger than an Airfix kit ๐
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๐ฌ Re: A gentle start....!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I know she is 1:12 scale but what dose that work out to measurement wise ? Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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The silicone is staying firmly in the tube Ian ๐๐๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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Remember some silicones particularly the DIY ones have a vinegar smell, why because they contain acetic acid! I have come across some very expensive machinery that has been damaged by use of silicon. One mine had to pay about 12000 GBP after using it. It rotted the bearing surfaces.
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Doug, many thanks for all the info, certainly lots to ponder there.
I hear everything you say about silicone, especially the smell, itโs awful! On the note of it being a pig to apply well and the issues it will cause with paint, I shall NOT use it and go with ensuring my joint between hull and lower sponson is sound with an extra fillet of plastic cement. Looking at it this morning, Iโve managed to get a great joint with only a little spot at the bow that needs a touch of filler. I shall reinforce the internal joint which will be virtually out of sight anyway. As for the battery conundrum, my plan was to buy. 2 or these lipos from good old Hobbyking connected in parallel after making up a lead, but now with your wise words thatโs thoughts gone up In smoke (thankfully not literally). Space is the issue, so may get one, put it down the side of the hull, and maybe counter balance the other side with weight if the model need laterally balancing? There maybe also room ahead of the motor once installed for a different shaped battery? I shall hold off until the other electrics are in place before I buy anything ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, thankfully the Coxswain is complete lol, just a strange angle for the photo. Heโs actually one of the best figures Iโve had from DK figures, very little in the way of prep required prior to painting, all will be revealed in the fullness of time ๐
As for the kit being a pig, I concur! Iโve paid far too much for what was supplied and in hindsight half the price would still have been expensive, I look at it as one of those unthinking impulse moments! I think once Iโve got the sponsons assembled and providing I can get all the electrics shoehorned in, I will enjoy the challenge of scratch building the remaining bits though? Apart from bending the brass tube for the rear frame! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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So far so good Sy๐
But I share Martin's reservations vis a viz the use of silicone sealant anywhere near a model build, plastic or wood. Apart from the pong of vinegar ๐๐; you have taken the precaution of washing the parts in soapy water to remove any residue from the moulding process before assembly, so why ruin and negate that effort by applying silicone which is anathema to any kind of paint or glue? The solvents in it will creep all over and resist all efforts to paint it or glue to it๐ค In such cases, often necessary when building plastic construction kits, especially if I'm intending to convert the kit to RC - Plastic Magic๐, I apply an extra fillet of viscous plastic cement (I also like the Revell plastic cements BTW๐), or even epoxy. In extreme cases I also glue down an L shaped or other suitable plasticard profile. On another, more important subject:- "2 x small 2 or 3S lipo's in parallel ..." I implore and beseech you DON'T DO THAT!!๐ฎ๐ค If you absolutely MUST then DO NOT DIRECTLY CONNECT THE TWO POSITIVE TERMINALS TOGETHER๐ฅ Why? Both LiPos MUST be of identical type, manufacture, from the same batch, have identical specifications, state of charge and internal resistance PER CELL!! If there is any difference in charge state between the two then the one with the highest charge/voltage will attempt to charge the lower one. Which can, due to the low internal resistance of healthy LiPos, result in very high currents flowing which can cause a wiring fire and loss of the vessel. Or even workshop if this happens during a bench test!๐ฅ๐ฎ๐ญ If you are forced to do this, due to space/weight distribution difficulties, then PLEASE fit a power distribution board, equipped with fast Schottky power diodes, between the two + terminals. The diodes block this so called 'back charging'. If you are not happy with electricles and soldering then try this ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Looks like this is going to be a pig of a kit to put together Sy, quite relieved to think I nearly bought one after you,btw, has the Coxswain figure got something in his left hand? has he got a left hand? can't quite see from the photo, but the rest of him looks good, fine detail.๐
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I think i know what you are going to do. I have had something similar and i cut a 1mm strip of 1mm plastic card and glued that down along the seam first then a wider strip over that. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, the plan is for a Thin silicone inner seam, then a plasticard strip Over this butting to the lower sponson and deck, so that painting wonโt be affected. It will be easier to show than explain my freind ๐
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๐ฌ Re: Hull and sponson progress...!
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
If you use silicone on the inner joints then i think that it will make painting over it a bit of a nightmare. Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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"What is your hull made of though? GRP?"
not so lucky Doug, it's that cheap nasty thin plastic, thermo molded to keep it light, but if you hit a buoy, or another boat, it don't like it๐ Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Horses for courses Pete๐
In your case, emergency repair, it was obviously a great asset to have in the lakeside tool box. What is your hull made of though? GRP? If so the usual plastic solvent glues would have little or no effect. They'd probably just sit on the surface and easily crack off so your S-Bond is an ideal alternative. Must sniff (๐ฎ) around to see if it's available over here. Sy's kit seems to be moulded polystyrene and is fairly small at 21" so, especially at the construction stage, the solvent glues designed for PS are the best choice. Don't suppose Sy is planning to go RHIB racing either๐ But who knows? We all do nutty things with boats now and again๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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"maybe a bit overkill for plastic model boats" not for me Doug, last year during our Club 500 races, collided with another 500 boat, and got a three inch split in the hull, recovered the boat back and put a bead of this stuff along the split,(inside the hull) and was good and ready for the next race, it completely sealed the split and kept the water out, so for me well worth the money๐๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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Look for polystyrene tiles then cut them๐
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Doug,
again you make some fair points! Technically Iโve built in semi airtight compartments, therefore I wonโt bother with foam. The plastic used on the sponsons is quite thick and therefore once joined will be quite strong. Itโs only a small model and will only be sailed in calm waters therefore the chances of flipping it will be reduced. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, many thanks for your thoughts, but Iโm now beyond the point of adding any form of sealer and putting my trust in the joints being sound ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"Would it be beneficial to pop in some foam in the sponsons before you glue the other half on.? (just incase )"
How fragile are the 'sponsons' Sy? Is there any risk that their integrity will be compromised? Assuming you are not intending to try a destructive test by driving full ahead at the lake wall!๐ฎ Otherwise; the foam is perhaps lighter than water - but certainly not lighter than air. It flops straight to the ground when given a test squirt๐ So your sponsons will have more buoyancy if simply filled with air! I might be more inclined to build in some internal bulkheads to seal off different compartments, much like the damage control zones in real ships. Just my thoughts, but wadda I know๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Totally different animal Pete๐
Hence the different properties. Probably great for home DIY (like Liquid nails๐ฎ)and emergency repairs on full size boats๐ but maybe a bit overkill for plastic model boats๐ Some of the uses of polymers- Clothing, sportswear and accessories: polyester and PVC clothing, spandex, sport shoes, wetsuits, footballs and billiard balls, skis and snowboards, rackets, parachutes, sails, tents and shelters. Electronic and photonic technologies: organic field effect transistors (OFET), light emitting diodes (OLED) and solar cells, television components, compact discs (CD), photoresists, holography. Packaging and containers: films, bottles, food packaging, barrels. Insulation: electrical and thermal insulation, spray foams. Construction and structural applications: garden furniture, PVC windows, flooring, sealing, pipes. Paints, glues and lubricants: varnish, adhesives, dispersants, anti-graffiti coatings, antifouling coatings, non-stick surfaces, lubricants. Car parts: tires, bumpers, windscreens, windscreen wipers, fuel tanks, car seats. Household items: buckets, kitchenware, toys (e.g., construction sets and Rubik's cube). Medical applications: blood bag, syringes, rubber gloves, surgical suture, contact lenses, prosthesis, controlled drug delivery and release, matrices for cell growth. Personal hygiene and healthcare: diapers using super-absorbent polymers, toothbrushes, cosmetics, shampoo, condoms. Security: personal protective equipment, bulletproof vests, space suits, ropes. Separation technologies: synthetic membranes, fuel cell membranes, filtration, ion-exchange resins. Money: polymer banknotes and payment cards. 3D printing. ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Sponson supports and transom bracket
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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There is another choice Sy instead of using silicon, it's called S-BOND, they do it in white, black and clear, the clear is similar to silicon, but no smell, it glues while underwater if required, totally waterproof, and made in SHEFFIELD, oh! and Doug, you can paint over it when dry with no problems๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I heard somewhere Martin that people have used that spray expanding foam, but I have this vision of it blowing up! However, Iโve probably got some expanded foam somewhere, so will hunt it out and pop it in ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
You are doing a great job, it is surprising that a splash of paint and a few bolt heads makes such a massive difference. Would it be beneficial to pop in some foam in the sponsons before you glue the other half on.? (just incase ) Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Thanks Mike; I could have used several buckets of that about 40 years ago when I took apart and rebuilt the ancient crumbling garden wall, around my 1860 built cottage in Sandhurst.
It was a massive structure, complete overkill, brick and half wide. Just had to lift the bricks off and clean 'em up. Days of work with wire brushes and cold chisels cleaning thousands of 'em๐ค Rebuilt as a single brick wall with the occasional support pillar, using the most decorative vitrified bricks with a nice purple black glassy finish. Had hundreds of bricks left over for other constructions around the garden๐ What does the stuff consist of actually? Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Brick cleaning fluid is from a builders merchant, used for cleaning cement off brick faces
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Roger that, cherry red then dunk and repeat ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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"I presume itโs melted into the tube before bending that will anneal at the same time?"
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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I wasn't laughing when it happened Martin.๐ญ
But a while later I also saw the funny side of it.๐๐คฃ We learn from our mistakes! From all the above I like the sound of Mike's method best๐ Have no idea where to get brick cleaning acid from though๐ฎ Or even what it would be called over here! 'Backstein Putzmittel Sรคure' perhaps!? Happy bending folks, don't get kinky now๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Good advice Doug, I shall try and avoid the bends or โnitrogen narcosisโ, guaranteed to ruin ones day! ๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Doug,
Ref:- and the tube looked like a dead earthworm That did make me laugh as i did a very similar thing. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"Also, you can (use) miniature bending springs. "
Yes you CAN! But be very careful, the spring should not be too tight a fit in the tube, and above all don't forget the annealing process! On my first attempt to bend some 1/8" brass tube to make the boat davits on my 1/72 destroyer the spring got stuck in the tube. By the time I got it out it was zig times longer than it started and the tube looked like a dead earthwormโน๏ธ๐ญ Don't get 'the bends' Gents & Gentle ladies, very painful!๐ค Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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Hi Sky, I bend brass tube with success using the following method.
1 cut to a length longer than required. 2 anneal the tube by heating to cherry red and quenching in water, I usually do this twice 3 clean the tube internally. block one end and then put a little flux down the tube. 4 heat with small blow torch and fill with solder to the top (and quench while still hot) 5 I usually cut a piece of hardwood to the required bend radius. 6 clamp one end and proceed to pull around. the block using another piece of hardwood. 7 when required bend is done heat and allow solder to run out (you may have to shake it a bit to get it all out. 8 I then clean in a jar of brick cleaning acid. 9 Job done PS if you look at my crash tender blog you can see the bends I used on the fire monitors. good look ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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If you can find a heavy spring to fit inside the tube it makes bending easier. Haven't used it myself but there are bending jigs also.
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4 years ago by ๐ฟ๐ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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Hi,
Try getting hold of what they call Roses Metal (Very old fashioned) fill the tube, bend and remove the roses metal. Also, you can miniature bending springs. Try the model engineering supply companies. Blackgates, Tracy Tools RDG etc. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Please let us know how you get on Sy.
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, soft solder, now thereโs a thought ๐ I presume itโs melted into the tube before bending that will anneal at the same time? Might try that on a practice piece. Many thanks, that maybe the solution ๐๐๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: Bending brass tube?
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
It is my understanding that the inside of the tube needs to be packed with sand or soft solder to prevent the walls of the tube collapsing inwards. If you use soft solder you can heat the tube up again to empty it after you are completely happy with the end results. As for a tube bender i am sure a man with your skills can knock something up that will save you a lot of money. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Prop shaft, servo mount and top sponson
4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I was watching it too Pete, was gonna have a cheeky last minute bid! ๐๐๐
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Just an update Sy on the other RIB for sale on Ebay,
nobody bid on it! so he's re-advertised it still ยฃ50, so you can get another at a reduced price, NOT๐ Cheers, Pete ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Ha ha, you know me too well Martin ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I see the little details creeping in LOL!!
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Needs must when the devil drives Sy๐ค
Looking forward to your next project/tutorial very much๐ So much to learn, so much to do, So little time ๐ญ Happy and Peaceful Guarding Sy๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Iโve now got 4 days off Doug, Iโve gotta work to fund future projects ๐๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Rob, I am going to go the lead and former route, easier than trying to source springs that will fit the tube ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Totally agree with every word Robbob๐
Sy's work rate, especially considering the quality of the results, takes my breath away๐ฎ which these days I don't have as much of as I used to๐ค I used the changeover switch idea in my 1/72 destroyer many years ago, switching between two hefty 6V SLAs. A 1.35m hull needs a fair bit of ballast anyway!๐ And I always prefer to put in 'useful' ballast rather than 'dead lead'. As she's now in for a (lengthy!) major refit I'm planning on fitting a changeover relay (encapsulated type) operated by an ON/OFF switch on the TX, e.g. the 'Gear' switch. Keep up the great work Sy๐๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Sounds like you have a case of 'Buyers Remorse' but I know you'll make a terrific job of it despite that. Re: Bending brass tube. I think Mike Turpin's suggestion is likely to be the most successful. I've used internal and external bending springs with success if the bend radius isn't too severe, and also tightly packed sand but I suspect you need a fairly small radius bend so I'd try a test with the 'lead fill and wood formers' method and judge the results. BTW. I've been so busy with other domestic responsibilities the boat building has taken second priority but I'm back to the Pilot Boat now and will be posting updates shortly. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Cheers as always for the fine Comments and suggestions Rob. Battery wise, Iโve ordered a 1300mah 25-50c 2s Airsoft lipo from my friends at Hobbyking which should be here tomorrow along with some extra goodies! Itโs long and slim so should be a perfect fit Down the side? I was planning on adding a little lead to counter Balance laterally, but potential I could add another lipo and switch over as suggested?
This model is now basically an โAirfix kitโ less the kit parts as the remainder of the detailing and I plan on adding as much detail as I can cram in Will all need to be scratch built. But thatโs the fun stuff that I enjoy most, itโs amazing what can be made from plastic sheet, strip, tube and odds n ends from the spares box. Doug sent me a fab folio of pictures that show every angle, lump and bump, On a boat that was being sold after itโs R.N.L.I. career ended. If I can get the brass tube frame right, the rest should be easy in comparison ๐ Very much looking forward to your next update on your Pilot boat ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
I'm full of admiration of you work rate, so much progress in so little time!! (I'm still plodding away with my Pilots Boat, and getting bogged down with fine detailing). Have you figured out your battery conundrum yet? As a suggestion, could you use two long and slim battery packs either side of the motor/electrics and put in a changeover switch so when the first is showing signs of low capacity you could bring the boat in, switch to battery number two and continue running on that. The advantage being that battery locations don't upset the balance of the boat as they act as reciprocal ballast. The only disadvantage is that there's an extra switch to find room for and your running session will be split in two sessions. You could fit a separate battery alarm unit for each too, they're cheap enough ! Just a mad idea ๐ Keep up the great work. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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At least you have the boat so not a fool maybe over spent.
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I reckon making some standoffs will be the solution Martin. I shall leave it until Iโve cut the deck out for the centre console Frame and modify then ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
Might be worth having an air gap under the ESC. (or on small pillars) Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Martin, Iโve put the Tamiya caution stickers on because I like them lol. Yes, it is a water cooled ESC, but Iโm only planning on running this on a 2S Airsoft 1300mah lipo And probably not much on full throttle so Iโm taking a punt that It wonโt get too hot. The esc is sitting on a plasticard box which will hopefully succumb before the main hull if we do have a heat issue, but I shall test it in the wifeโs hot tub before I send it to the lake. Fingers crossed it wonโt end up as molten lump at the bottom of the tub ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Hi Sy,
I noticed you have notices saying "caution Hot" and you seem to have water cooling on the ESC. What is the ESC mounted on. ? Having a plastic hull/boat are you sure that the motor and ESC combo will not over heat and distort/melt the hull. It is probably me being thick as i have no knowledge about brushless rc equipment. Martin555. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Itโs the little things ....!
4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"Is it a bird? Is it a plane?"
"NOOOH, it's SUPERSY" ๐ ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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You will be able to jump other boats and fly like an Eagle.
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Sgt Wilson - Take that man's name!!๐
But Uncle Arthur already knows Cpl Jone's name Cap'n Mainwaring!? "Stupid boy"๐ ๐๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I only ever got to staff sergeant Doug, no need to call me Sir ha ha!
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Yes Sir, Captain Mainwaring Sir!๐ Carrying on Sir๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Panic over...
As you were... Carry on............๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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No need to panic, the deck screws down with 6 tiny 3mm screws, so the gubbins inside are easily got at if and when maintenance is required ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Good thinking Batman๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Thinking ahead..... Perhaps it would be prudent to adjust the RX positioning now and re-make the wiring/switching loom to make provision for the second battery if access will be restricted after the deck is fixed down. Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Looking really good.
Coming along nicely. All the inner workings look neat and compact. Keep it up. Bill๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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I shall certainly buy a second lipo in the future Rob, but once deck is in position, access is difficult.
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Itโs only because of the joy of detailing this little model that I can justify what I spent on it in the first place Martin ๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob ( Admiral)
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Hi Sy.
Good to see progress at your usual rate of knots! It looks like if you were to reposition the receiver there'd be plenty of room for a second LiPo ๐ Rob. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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I really like this model Sy,
The detail work will really make this model stand out. You are doing a great job. Keep it up. Martin555. ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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It would on 3S Lipo Rick, Mach 1 easily!
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4 years ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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That's a neat project it looks like it will fly on the water.
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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I know the feeling Sy๐ค
'Stuff expands to fill the space available for it - and then some!'โน๏ธ ๐ ▲
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Seriously Doug, the unused parts are big lumps of non descriptive plastic that are as much use as โ U-Boats with indicatorsโ. My spares boxes of which I have several need nothing else added to them ๐๐๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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"majority of the parts included in the part kit were rubbish and binned!"
Sy, Neffer frow nuffink away that 'might' come in handy for another project. You never know๐ German ship modellers have a motto (loosely translated) 'Never throw anything away that won't start to stink after a few weeks'๐๐ As usual, great detailing from you๐ Look forward to the first Flight Trials Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Hi Pete, the majority of the detailing is scratch built. The handles came as a strip of U-formed plastic strip that has to be cut into individual pieces before being stuck onto the hull with a 0.5mm packing piece underneath. Most of the detail is from 0.5, 1.0 mm plastic sheets, plastic tube and rod. The vacform Pouches on the stern of each sponson were included, but the majority of the parts included in the part kit were rubbish and binned!
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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Like all the detail work you have done on the sponsons Sy, is that in the kit? or scratchbuilt, how did you do the handle/grips, brilliant stuff!๐
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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Really coming along well.
The end result will be worth the effort. Keep it coming. Bill๐๐๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Happy licking Sy๐
Prefer an ice lolly meself๐ ๐๐๐ ▲
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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Very nice bit of "unpaid Labour of love" Sy LOL!!
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4 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 ( Rear Admiral)
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Enjoying the build if truth be told Doug, will look the โDogs Fluffiesโ once itโs had a lick of VW orange lol!
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4 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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Excellent stuff Sy๐
Looks like you're making a real nice 'silk purse' out of your expensive 'sow's ear'.๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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