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    Vintage HFM Thames Barge
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    ๐Ÿ“ Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    kit as supplied to me but before i can start on the part completed barge I must complete other projects first as i want to do my best for the departed owner who had the kit from new

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I just line them up in readiness"
    I've tried that Nerys,
    Then you suddenly get a flash (or flush?๐Ÿ˜ฎ) of inspiration ๐Ÿ’ก and tootle off to do it on number 2 or 5, and then go back to the 'main' event, number zero - maybe๐Ÿ™„
    If that doesn't happen to you Nerys I can only admire your discipline๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I don't often have more than one on the go at a time, I just line them up in readiness. there are five in waiting at the moment, and that doesn't include the one I hope to finish this week.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    doesn't everyone ๐Ÿ˜Š wife keeps telling me to finish a project before I forget what to do.๐Ÿ˜•
    Cheers Marky
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Why doesn't that surprise me MB?๐Ÿ˜
    Welcome to the club๐Ÿค”
    "Rules are made to be ......!"
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    I make it a rule to always finish one project before starting another. I am rubbish at rules. I have four on the go at the moment.๐Ÿ˜
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I agree, get your other projects finished, then if you need any help, just shout. Looking at the photos, I didn't realise so much had been done, still think you could plank the decks though. I'm sure we can sort out a sail plan for you.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Vintage HFM Thames Barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "I must complete other projects first"
    Tell me about it jacko๐Ÿ™„
    We can wait for continuation of your blog, don't forget it!!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ dead eye jig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    jig made for stringing dead eyes this will make 1/2inch to 2inch.... 2 x cloths pegs need to make lots for this barge this is only a test one

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: dead eye jig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You should have met my Granny Mike,
    She always said "I like a good jig about" when lively music came on the radio๐Ÿ˜
    Especially after an egg flip or two ๐Ÿ˜‹
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: dead eye jig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jacko,
    Very clever.
    It is surprising how the simplest of ideas work the best.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: dead eye jig
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง mturpin013 ( Admiral)
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    I like a jig makes life so much easier
    ๐Ÿ“ not mine but
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    is this what i have to live up too ????

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: not mine but
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Go for it Jacko, you can do it!
    YES YOU CAN๐Ÿ‘
    The rigging looks great, as an uninitiated I assume it is correct!
    I'm sure your painting is better than his anyway๐Ÿ˜‰
    Bon chance mon ami ๐Ÿ˜Š
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ“ r/c rudder
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    built a new rudder to use when in the water and sailing keeping the short rudder for when on display

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: r/c rudder
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    Jacko,
    Glad to see your post on the rudder, I am designing mine right now (for my sailing barge blog). Looks great.
    Joe
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: r/c rudder
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Most of us use rudder extensions, but separate rudders is a perfectly good idea. You seem to be doing well and making an excellent job of this.

    Nerys
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: r/c rudder
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Escrich ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Great idea, i designed a rudder for both situations, not so big, but works, yours it's a good idea
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: r/c rudder
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Jacko,
    I like that idea.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ bit more
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    just used cotton covered elastic thread in my dead eyes 65p for 50 mts

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: bit more
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Not sure that elastic thread is any good for the deadeyes. The purpose of the deadeye set up is to tension the shroud, it doesn't want to stretch.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ“ Thames Barge info
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    with help from a friend i have access to

    The Thames Sailing Barge her gear and rigging by Dennis j Davis (1970 print ) with some nice photos

    and

    Spritsail Barges of Thames and Medway by
    Edgar j March ( 1970 ) nice read

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Thames Barge info
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joe727 ( Commander)
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    Jacko,
    Wow, great images of the deck and equipment. ๐Ÿ‘ I was just looking through my sailing barge books and the internet for deck photos. Your photos do the trick. I will have to get that book.
    Joe
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Thames Barge info
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Jacko. You should find both those books very useful, excellent illustrations and descriptions of the barges gear. Another book you would find useful would be, 'A Handbook of Sailing Barges' by barge skipper Fred Cooper and illustrated by John Chancellor, who owned and sailed the barge yacht 'Viper'. Pleased to hear you are researching the subject thoroughly.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ“ rigging started
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    using the book her gear and rigging, started on mine, still lots to do, but ha ho on we go

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: rigging started
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    That's a very neat job you are making of the rigging Jacko, you are doing very well. She's beginning to look pretty good. Both mainsail and topsail are nicely proportioned, the mainsail in particular has a nice high peak and the topsail tack just nicely overlapping the mainsail. Carry on with the good work.

    Nerys
    ๐Ÿ“ sails update
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    after looking at photos of real barges the sails a edged with rope so it begins,
    1. mark the sail size on cotton
    2.cut a length of 1mm nylon cord longer than required
    3.sew with a zig-zag stitch very carefully keeping nylon cord in line with mark (on sail )
    4. using a very sharp cutting wheel cut just outside the zig-zag stitching

    this is just the first attempt will be better when i get back from hoils

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: sails update
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    thanks for that will remember next time ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜Š
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: sails update
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    If using a laid up rope then one stitches into the lay and bear in mind that the roping is traditionally on the port side of the sail.

    Nerys
    ๐Ÿ“ hfm thames barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    well lock down still going but the barge is finished ??

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: hfm thames barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง jacko ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    thanks for the info this is my 2nd barge so getting better each one i build so after a few more build's i might get it correct and just picked up the plans for Kitty (the free one's ) so might build one from scratch this photo is of number 1
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: hfm thames barge
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Well done to reach the finish line, I think you have made an excellent job of her, amazing attention to detail, but I'm afraid you have made one major mistake. You have the sprit on the wrong side of the mainsail. The sprit is hung by the standing lift on the starboard side of the mast (and sail), The mainsail is a good shape with a nice high peak but the headrope should go around the sprit end. (In a real barge, the whole weight of the sprit is taken by the headrope of the mainsail. Sorry, I'm not criticizing, just pointing out a couple of mistakes easily made if you are not properly conversant with a full size barge.

    All the best, Nerys


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