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    Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
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    ๐Ÿ“ Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Captain)
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    Hi all...

    A while back I was given two Atlantic "Tugs" (by separate people). One was in very good condition (but with the old FM radio) which I passed on to another member and the other is the subject for this post.

    These Atlantic "tugs" [sic] have a very toy like design, especially the hull's gunwale (curve) when viewed from the side. That being said, I would like to restore it, probably to another type boat as I don't want to start cutting the gunwale. to flatten it some.

    Now the condition of everything is fair and the hull is pretty solid. (The hole in the bow area is a chop job done by the previous owner to install a bow thruster.) Everything is dirty bun ca be cleaned up. It is missing the wheelhouse. I would like to re-use (modify?) the superstructure.

    So, here's where all of you come in. Given the shape of the hull and structure, do any of you have any ideas what this could be made into based on a real boat's looks? (If there are any real tugs in the style/looks, could you pass that info on to me?)

    Thanks,

    Lew

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    11 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Wolle ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hello Lew

    ๐Ÿ‘I think you should restore it as a tugboat again. The smuggler deserves it. Maybe also trim to old. I think when it's restored it will be a not-so-frequently-seen tug.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง flaxbybuck ( Captain)
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    Hello Lew
    I am not into tug boats (yet) but do like the lines of the model you have there. Other readers have given you some good ideas about possible builds. I cannot help you there, but good luck with it, and enjoy the build !๐Ÿ˜‰
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Midshipman)
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    Another thought. Search the web for Ft Myers shrimp boat photos. Some of those hulls have a sheer line & bow rake similar to your โ€œtugโ€ though I havenโ€™t seen any with a rounded stern. That would be a show stopper. Havenโ€™t searched for shrimp boats in other locations, Louisiana for example, but I would think they are also square stern hulls given how they fish.
    Oh well; maybe you could adopt some of the rig.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Chum444 ( Midshipman)
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    Like LewZ, I suggest a conversion to a fishing vessel. The MARY ANN in roycvโ€™s blog is another possibility. Changing the profile of the bulwarks to that of a tug wonโ€™t work IMHO. A bulwark change would be so extensive that the freeboard forward would become a problem. Then there is the bow profile. Just not that of a tug. I think you could have a fine looking vessel if you pursue the fish boat approach.
    Iโ€™ve also seen comments regarding leaks around the aft hatch.

    Just my thoughts.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง johnf ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Lew,

    You have quite a project here! Many would agree that these Almost Ready to Run boats seem very toy-like and artificial.

    That being said, the curved gunwales are an attractive feature which are often seem on foreign fishing or utility boats. Your boat definitely needs a wheelhouse and perhaps masts, navigation and other lights, a winch, radar scanner, registration numbers and a good paint job to set it off.

    I would suggest some examination of books and\or websites to see if any particular design appeals to you.

    If not, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a freelance design to move the boat well away from its toy roots.

    If so, please bear in mind your chosen scale at all times, perhaps against the availability of figures. Here you are looking at 1\24 th (3 inch) or maybe 1\16th (4 inch) as the most likely scale. Obviously the wheelhouse windows, ladders, doors and deck fittings should all be scaled accordingly.

    A simple sketch and full size cardboard templates are a good starting point.

    In any case you have an interesting and challenging project - so much better than a prestine and new looking"toy".

    Best wishes and good luck!

    Dr John F Leeds and Bradford BBC. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿคž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic "Tug" [sic] Restoration
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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    Tugs had a large displacement to cope with the large engines they had. So a good displacement might translate to a fishing boat?
    The plans for Billing Cux 87 can be seen on line.
    Otherwise you might get away with the Vic Smeed design for a Customs Launch Guardsman.

    Also it may convert into a sailing boat, perhaps a Bristol Channel Pilot cutter? They have long bowsprits.
    If extended with a bowsprit the (Billing) Lilla Dan would work out, see my harbour, also plans on line.
    Hope this may have helped.
    Good luck with the project
    Roy
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    ๐Ÿ“ Great Call
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Captain)
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    Roy, what a good call on the hull shape for the "Atlantic" tug restoration. Some the older European fishing trawler hull shape is quite similar to the Atlantic tug. Going one step further, I found the Kriegsfischkutter (KFK) a very interesting subject.

    The KFK is about 24m (78.8 ft) in length and the Atlantic is 30.3 inches. That would be about a scale of 1/31.2 - close to 1/32 for figures. (Probably take 0.80 inch off the transom to flatten it.) Very interesting!

    My problem is that I am in my RC armor mode (another Sherman arrived today) and was trying to get back to my RC boat mode with the major modification to my Dusseldorf FLB2 (fireboat). At 79 I have too much lined up. Decisions, decisions!!!

    Lew

    Also, check these out... The first one shows a modern day look (rusted, on land) and the second has a lot of detail info to use for a build:



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/KFK_ex_20030417_001_whv.JPG
    https://www.super-hobby.com/products/KFK-363-Kriegsfischkutter-KOMPLET-MODEL-I-L
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Great Call
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hi for your information Billing Cux 87 and Mary Ann are identical hulls. I have them both.
    Roy
    ๐Ÿ“ Atlantic to KFK conversion, WWYD
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Captain)
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    I still have this thought about converting the ugly Aquacraft "Atlantic" tug to something more real-ish looking. Running with the idea of a fishing vessel, I came across a Kriegsfischkutter (KFK for short), a WWII German patrol craft.

    Attached is a drawing comparing both of the hulls. Not too bad! But is it worth the trouble? I would like to hear other opinions on this especially if you would do this if given a hull to work with. Looks like the scale would be close to 1/32, so figures and perhaps other items (guns?) should be available.

    Keep in mind that in this example there is some difference in the hull shape. However, note that these boats were built in many countries and different shipyards. Looking at photos there seem to be noticeable differences.

    What Would You Do?

    Lew
    Florida, USA

    You can also search Kriegsfischkutter see photos, drawings, videos, etc.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic to KFK conversion, WWYD
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    I think the hardest thing woul be to flatten the stern of the Atlantic to get the โ€œcruiser sternโ€ vs a rounded stern. I wanted to build one of these boats, and was about to sacrifice a Graupner Krabbe Ton when I found an old Graupner Elkeโ€ฆthe Elke was originally a fishing boat, then a KFK, and after the war she was converted back. There were other boats used as KFKs, but from what Iโ€™ve researched the Elke style hull was the mos prominent. I enjoyed the build, ran her a few times then a buddy came over with an Italeri PT109 kit and caught me in a weak momentโ€ฆ.
    Iโ€™d go for it. Youโ€™ll have to do some fabrication, but it would be a fun build, and a unique project.
    Hereโ€™s a pic of what used to be my boat.
    Cash
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Atlantic to KFK conversion, WWYD
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    'What would I do?'
    GO FOR IT LEW๐Ÿ‘ Hull looks a pretty good match to me.
    Bear in mind that various fishing vessels were converted to harbour defence craft, and the armament and fittings varied considerably, depending on what was readily available.
    I would also contact Ed (Figtree), or was it Cash?, he recently did a superb conversion of a Fish Cutter kit to a KFK.
    Good luck๐Ÿคž and happy building whatever you decide to do with it.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ“ Stern issues for the KFK
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ LewZ ( Captain)
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    Cash...

    Thanks for the comments and photos. Despite the ugly design (at least for a tug), the Aquacraft fiberglass hull appears to be quite strong and a good base for a KFK.

    It looks like the underside of the hull near the propeller is quite different and could be a problem, but it would not be that noticeable as the fantastic look of the boat above the waterline will distract from that.

    Lew
    Florida, USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stern issues for the KFK
    11 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Wolle ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hello Lew

    I think you should restore it as a tugboat again. The smuggler deserves it. Maybe also trim to old. I think when it's restored it will be a not-so-frequently-seen tug.๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Stern issues for the KFK
    1 year ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง HappyHaggis ( Warrant Officer)
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    Could go along the lines of "Proceed" here with the extremely weathered old tug loo. Failing that keep it sweet and simple as a newcomers "try sailing" boat. Kit her with a 280 brushed and standard 3 blade fine pitch prop (Radiolink) with a rubber bumper and ask bystanders if they'd like a shot. Has so much potential though. I love transforming unloved boats back to working vessels again

    Scott


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