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    Another Springer tug!!
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    📝 Hull paint done minus touchups
    5 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all.I was off this past Friday so I did the fwd bulwarks supports and cap rail, built just like the aft. Once I had everything sanded I proceeded to primer and paint the hull. Not going into too much detail but since the push knees are already bonded to the hull, we’ll, there was a lot of masking tape being applied,, removed, then new tape applied elsewhere. I still have a couple of cans of French blue so I decided on a rust red bottom, upper hull and bulwarks French blue, the inner bulwarks and deck light gray,and the push knees are in black. Once everything had cured I primed and painted the Kort nozzle to match the bottom hull and reinstalled it and the prop. Now, im ready to start the hatch covers and superstructure.
    Cash

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    📝 Push knees, crossbar, fore bulwarks started aft complete
    12 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I had to fill in for my coworker last Saturday, and we ran models that Sunday, so very little work done till late this week and some this weekend. I did get the push knees made up Sunday afternoon, these consist of 6 1/8 ply parts that are laminated together and then once sanded epoxied to the bow. I also decided to add a cross bar between the knees as there is a large hole in the knees in the perfect location. I had a plastic tube that was almost a perfect fit, but I’m pretty sure it’s a polystyrene tube, and that’s one plastic that’s problematic to bond and paint, so I used some aluminum tube that’s a little smaller that the holes in the knees. I cut the tube down a bit shy of flush, then once I had it tacked in place making sure it was straight, I filled the void with scrap balsa and thick ca, the house thin balsa on the outboard sides to flush up the holes. I still have a little filling and sanding to do on the inboard joints.
    I was going to do a bulwarks all round the deck, but in some pics I’ve seen of the real boats there’s a partial bulwarks forward and a partial aft, so that’s what I did. I used plasticard to make up the bulwarks, once glued in place I added 1/16 styrene supports to the aft bulwarks and then used 1/8 by 1/4 balsa for a capping rail. That’s where I’m at now, the next step is to do the same to the forward bulwarks. You’ll notice there’s a freeing port in the aft bulwarks, but none forward. My thinking is since most Springers ride a little bow high at speed, there’s more of a need aft the forward.
    Cash

    📝 3 coats of sanding sealer later, deck and coamings installed.
    25 days ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. I’ve decided not to glass the hull of the Springer, from what I’ve read most people don’t, so I gave her a good painting of 30 minute epoxy inside, and 3 coats of lacquer based sanding sealer outside, sanding between coats. Had to leave after each coat to let dry and get away from the fumes before I started having conversations with Elvis.🤣 Anyway, once that was done I reinstalled my equipment, same as before except I moved the esc on the fwd side of the bulkhead for easier access.
    I work in a Ford dealer in Frisco Texas. We got a new battery rack from our vendor who services GM dealers as well. When the rack came in it was supplied with flat decorative panels advertising AC-Delco (GM) batteries. My boss asked if I could use the panels for building models, I took a look and said sure!!! I went home with about 6 foot by 2 foot of 2.5 mm plasticard!!
    So, I had decided going in my Springers deck was going to be plastic, and my hatch/superstructure opening was going to be smaller. So, once I had everything measured to my liking, I flipped it over and laid in reinforcing wood strips, as well as outlining the hatch openings with wood to give the coaming more area to glue to. I used parts for the kit that were originally for the stock hatch and cut them down to glue to the inner hull sides, bow and transom to give the deck more gluing area, then glued it down with 15 minute epoxy. Once cured I trimmed and sanded the edges. I also test lubed my stuffing box with my little grease gun. I was able to get enough pressure that the grease oozed out of each end with the shaft installed and connected to the motor. That’s what I try to accomplish with all my boats..it’ll be easier to build a more rugged greasing tube with the soldering rig I have now.
    That’s where I’m at now, I just have to design the 2 hatches and decide what wheelhouse style I want, and then start cutting plastic.

    💬 Re: 3 coats of sanding sealer later, deck and coamings installed.
    25 days ago by 🇦🇺 peterd ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    The comment made early about using a Springer is quite correct. We use one regularly to lay and retrieve buoys as well as a rescue boat.
    The owner fixed two arms to the side and when using some mesh in front, it has been handy moving surface floating weed or leaves. A great workboat.

    I might add that our buoys are highly complex items. Approx ten inches of a pool noodle connected with a cord to an old brass tap fitting. Water is only a max one meter deep. Work well, with different colour noodle subject to turning mark.
    📝 Another Springer tug!!
    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi y’all. Since Dickey has maidened I decided I wanted to do one more project before I attempt to overhaul my garage workshop. I’m thinking I’ll be down a month or more if I get done what I want to get done. In that vein, I’ve decided to attempt another Springer tug. Some years ago I built one before I really had ballasting down right..she ran okay, but I kept messing around with the ballast, epoxying it in, and when I tried to remove it to make changes I severely damaged the hull. So, I removed all equipment, fittings, etc and scrapped the hull. I’ve been wanting another go at it, so I ordered the Zippkits tugster, just the kit no hardware, and started to lick my calf over (old country phrase for a “do-over”)🤣
    I built the hull proper per the instructions, and that’s where that ends. I’m using a 4mm shaft, the smaller Robbe/Krick Kort nozzle, and a home made stuffing box. She will be powered by my fave working boat motor, the Zippkits 650 kv outrunner fed by 2 6 cell nimh in parallel.
    My stuffing box is made up of a thick wall brass tube that accepts a Traxxas 4mm i.d flanged oilite bushing. The bushing is tapped in with a hammer, and I use an old 4mm shaft to make sure the bushings stay aligned as I install the other bushing. The 1mm thick wall allows me to drill a hole the same size as the brass I’m using for an oiling tube. I’ll grind down the fitted end just a bit to get a decent, thight mechanical joint. That way when I silver solder it in place it stays put and is a good strong joint. The reason I’m so picky is that I use a mini grease gun from Horizon Hobbies, I can old it in place and pump, and I get just a wee bit of grease showing at the bushing under pressure, that way I know darn well it’s full.
    I used part of the keel parts to fit the tube, cutting it shorter to allow me to swing the Kort nozzle hard over to make it easier to change props without removing the Kort nozzle, depending on the size of the prop. I cut an oversized slot for the tube as I use solid couplers, and with the motor fitted I could get everything lined up and tack the tube in place with ca, that way I have no binding. I don’t like using universal joint couplers unless I really have to. I get my couplers from Servo City, as they are steel, use larger socket screws, and don’t have any runout. Very solid.
    The kit uses a radio plate to to mount the servo, receiver and esc. I cut that down and built up a servo mount, and it’s installed on the same bulkhead shown in the manual, but I mounted it to the fwd side vs the aft as in the instructions. My deck opening is going to be different. I’m using Dubro pushrods, but good old Amazon was out of the ones with metal quick links, so I ordered the ones with nylon. I dug thru my junk box of hardware that I have been collecting since 95 or so, and I found gold!! A few Dubro and Sullivan threaded metal clevises, and some solder clevises too. I mounted the servo, made sure everything worked correctly, then uninstalled everything and gave the inside of the bow and transom and the bottom of the hull a coat of 30 minute epoxy.
    That’s where she’s at now. I’m thing I’ll spray the rest of the inside of the hull with clear lacquer ro finish waterproofing, then I have to make a decision. I dont know if I need to glass this thing, or maybe glass the bottom and the just seal and paint the heck out of the sides, or….I’ve also heard that some people just epoxy coat the outer ull with thinned epoxy, then prime and paint. She’s gonn be a working boat, used as an emergency push boat when needed, so she needs to last…if I can get her ballasted properly this time, that is…🤣🤣
    Cash

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    30 days ago by 🇬🇧 zooma ( Captain)
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    A springer tug sounds like a good thing to keep in the car to take to the lake on a quiet day to recover a stranded boat when no one else is able to help.

    I have not even considered this before, but they look quite small and relatively simple to build, so I think I will start looking to find a plan or a kit.

    Bob.
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    💬 Re: Another Springer tug!!
    1 month ago by 🇳🇿 Nick Ward ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks for the reply, Cash. My hull is all ply (6mm sides, 1.5mm bottom, 3mm deck, so pretty robust so I just sealed and painted the hull outside with 2 coats acrylic undercoat, sanded between coats, followed by 2 coats of Acrylic gloss colours, again sanded between coats. I had already 'soaked' the inside surfaces with thinned polyurethane varnish to really soak into the wood and also to protect the exterior grade PVA glue joints. I opt to paint inaccessible areas of the inside of the hull before side or bottom sheeting is added during the build, taking care to leave areas requiring glue completely untouched until after.

    So far seems to work (I try to make sure the model is wiped down with a towel immediately after sailing, then dried out with the storage/transport case left open for 24hours in a warm room.) but I'll be honest, I think I prefer oil based gloss paints for the hull as they are more resilient; they just require a good 24+hours between coats before re-coating, and not really suitable for kitchen table builds because of the smells involved, so I'm banished to the shed whenever I do 'smelly-stuff'!😉 - I seem to remember Vic Smeed's advice regarding finishing coats on boats was to leave the paint for up to a week so it was really hard to allow a light sand to key in the final coat. I guess I was in more of a rush with my Springer, so didn't wait that long - and it WAS done on the kitchen table!😊
    Can't comment on fibreglass/resin finishes as I have no experience with these.🤔
    Regards, Nick
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    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Nick, I like your Springer, she’s a looker!! Yep, first time I built one I really thought I had the ballast dead on, I had the plowing then I way overcompensated with aft ballast and just ruined her. This time I’m going to go in eyes wide open, and set up up a little bow high. The outrunner Zippkits sells is a good unit, ans supposedly wound by TFL for the Tugster in particular and working boat models in general. I’m using 2 7.2 6 cell Nimh packs as I just don’t want to fool around with another battery chemistry as I do lipo, nimh and LiFe, plus I have them in my stock. I’ll probably be a bit overpowered with that setup but I think she’ll be okay. We’ll find out soon enough…😁
    BTW, did you glass your hull, resin it or just paint it? I’m on the fence about the finish to use.
    Cash
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    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Hi Rod. For most of my soldering such as light brasswork or electronics I use Kester 44 Solder Wire, 63/37. It works really well for that kind of work, and it’s a rosin core solder. I use the StayBrite for heavier work. It’s solder for use somewhere between normal soldering and brazing, a silver/tin solder.
    I splurged on my birthday in January and bought a YIHUA 939D+ III EVO Digital Soldering Iron Station, a 110 watt solder station. It’s a Chinese unit, sold thru Amazon, that came with very good reviews. So far it has exceed my expectations. This unit makes short work of heavier hobby soldering work, and with a change of tips and solder it does eletronic soldering like battery plugs, LEDs, bulbs, etc nicely too.
    Cash
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    1 month ago by 🇨🇦 RodC ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Cashrc, when you say you "silver solder" it , are you referring to the silver soldering that welders sometimes do, or do you mean soldering with, say, a 40 to 60 Watt iron using electronic solder containing 3% silver??
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    1 month ago by 🇳🇿 Nick Ward ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Cash,
    just saw your build log for the Springer tug. I've just finished one of these having downloaded the design from the 2015 build feature written by Colin Bishop on the Model Boats Magazine site using the basic Andy Cope sketches. I wanted it as a cheap 'rescue boat', as I had built a couple of other boats but felt I needed a back up if one of them got stranded on the local lake where I intended to sail, so their maidens were delayed until I had (relatively quickly) built the Springer (see attached photos). I intended to use RC bits I already had, but ended up buying a geared 540 motor off Ali Express turning 2300rpm at 12v, allowing me to turn a 50mm 4 bladed brass prop, plenty of grunt to push another stranded boat if necessary. I can relate to your comments about your first Springer; I'm glad I used removable lead sheet ballast as I ended up removing nearly 1/2 kg from the forward part of the hull when the maiden voyage revealed she had that typical Springer tendency to sink at the bow at higher throttle settings due to the hull shape. I'm awaiting an opportunity to sail her again after bathroom tests reveal she now sits nicely up about 3/4 inch at bow; coupled with the weight loss (now displaces around 3 1/2 kg) she should go well. I think this design is similar in size to the zippkits one. I used 2 x 1.3Ahr 12v lead gel batteries in parallel for the weight, as the current draw with the gears is very low (only around 1 amp cruising throttle) - it is, after all, a rescue boat, so hopefully doesn't need huge endurance. Springers do look cool, I think, and the robust ply construction is relatively quick and easy, so all the best for your build. 👍🤞😊

    Best regards,

    Nick
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    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Bill, I just make sure that everything lines up with marks on the aft hull, and that my tube is straight and the nozzle is also....and then I double check with my officially calibrated eyeball...😁 Horizontal is on center, it LOOKS like vertical is too. If I have any issues ill run a slightly smaller prop.
    Cash
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    1 month ago by 🇺🇸 Chum444 ( Captain)
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    Sounds like this is going to be a real tank Cash! Very strong indeed! I’m a devotee to single steerable Korts on tugs so I applaud your choice for propulsion. What is your alignment technique for the prop inside the Kort. I generally use a shaft centered in a plate whose diameter matches the Kort’s. I find even then I have to “eyeball” the final position.


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