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    New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
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    ๐Ÿ“ New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    More sanding and fairing done. Tried tinting one of the resin coats, and it turned out well,- another coat and I wouldn't have needed to paint it !. But- it showed up bits I wasn't happy with, so mixed up some more resin and fairing powder and gave it another coat. Sanded that back today, and gave the deck another white tinted resin coat.

    Not getting too carried away at this stage,- just getting it to a stage worth undercoating, as I want to see if it sails before spending money on paint. I'll be tinting a colour for the bottom as well, as that's not looking too bad at the moment, fairing wise.

    JB

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    ๐Ÿ“ New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    8 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Even hotter day today, (37C in the shed) so added some more f/glass. The bottom was trimmed and sanded back, then some glass tissue was laid over (the previous night) to help with fairing. When that was set, it was sanded back. The deck was then glassed with 200gsm cloth. After that set, it was sanded back, and a coat of thick resin and filler was squeegeed over the deck and bottom to get rid of a few imperfections.

    That will all be sanded smooth, and if satisfactory, will be painted with a thick acrylic primer, with more sanding to go. getting closer to the fun part of making the fittings and installing the gear. Hull now weighs 1.4kg,- (was 1.3kg before deck glass) hoping it will end up around 1.5kg when painted

    JB

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    5 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ DWBrinkman ( Commodore)
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    JB,

    I'm in Minnesota. I know I should be used to it, but it wears on a guy .....

    Dave
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    5 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Dave, are you in Minnesota or or Florida? You guys are getting a thrashing with the weather lately. Summer is a bit late starting here, but the temps are warmer than usual (usually round 25-28C-ish in Auckland, (I'm 33miles Nth of the city center) but been over 30 at times. Raining here at the moment, but still 27.8C (82F) and a bit humid. We are still nowhere near places where 45C is common luckily, don't think that would be pleasant.

    Our temp averages look to be very similar to Arizona (surprised me, I thought we would be much lower) At least we don't have snow in Auckland in winter ! only in the central North Island plateau and South island.
    JB
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    5 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ DWBrinkman ( Commodore)
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    I realize we are in a different hemisphere. However, with the weather we've been having, your temps are sounding mighty refreshing. Here are the next few days predictions (keep in mind these are degrees F not C).

    Sick of winter,
    Dave B
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    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Steve,

    a few showers today, and back to 25C at 10pm this evening. Mostly an even 21 in the city the entire day today, (1am to 10pm) but we are always warmer up here on the coast for some reason.

    JB
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    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,
    I have copied your previous message so that I can respond to it.

    Hi Steve, even toaster today !

    33.5 inside today,- shed 37, grass 40?! deck temp 69, Highest temp ever since I've been on the coast here in Orewa, (16yrs) good for the glass again though! No aircon, every window and door open and still 31 inside with a breeze blowing through. I think someone's cut our anchor cable and we've drifted over the ditch towards you guys ๐Ÿ˜€

    With your last big fires a few years back, our sky went red, and the smoke here was like something was on fire locally, and it was like dusk at 3pm. Amazing it can travel over 1000 miles and still be so strong. Same thing happened back in the 70s during a huge fire there, when Skippys' place burnt down in the Ku-Ring-Gai Chase park. I was living in Sydney, and I'd been right up to the end of the chase about 2 months before I came back- and the fire happened not long after. The whole place was 6ft thick bracken and bush, and went up like a match. Being a dead end, there's no escape from there if there's a fire.

    We also get plagues of your Xmas/ golden nectar beetles which get everywhere in the house. Hope there are no fires near you, sounds a bit rough at the moment ! What area are you in?

    JB

    No A/C is pretty rough in those temperatures. I think you are right about the anchor cable and we are all heading North, (for those in the Northern hemisphere heading North is getting hotter/closer to the equator)I am in a Melbourne suburb we don't get any sea breeze where I am.

    It is amazing that the smoke can travel that far, it is still a bit smokey as there are still fires burning although luckily the temperature has dropped to a comfortable level. That is going back a while "skippy".

    That's a bugger about the beetles and then there is the Possums but maybe I shouldn't mention that.
    I had fires popping up fairly close by on Saturday after the weather had cooled down a bit. I am in a well built up North Eastern suburb of Melbourne and not a rural area, that's not to say we couldn't get burnt out but it is less likely.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    6 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,
    I hope things have cooled off a bit in NZ.

    Nice progress on the hull.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    8 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    ๐Ÿฅต Hereโ€™s helping you to think cool thoughts ๐Ÿ’ญ ๐Ÿฅถ
    ๐Ÿ“ New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    12 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Decent hot day today, so decided to f/glass the bottom of the hull. All the c/board case parts were epoxied in the night before and set well. The bottom of the c/board slot was filled with a tight fitting balsa square, and planed flush, to keep any epoxy from entering. When the glassing is finished, this will be easy to remove and sand back.

    I put a coat of epoxy mixed with filler powder on before the 6oz cloth, and troweled it into the pores of the foam as a filler, then straight away laid the cloth on and rolled the normal epoxy through the cloth. This should help with fairing the hull later.

    My Hitec winch arrived from a surviving model shop 80 miles south, and that will be eventually fitted in front of the c/board case, in the cutout. Lots more to do yet.

    JB

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    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Admiral)
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    It'll be strong as iron with the 6oz cloth! Excellent work JB!
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    ๐Ÿ“ New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Cockpit floor is now epoxied in. The centerboard case is also epoxied into the lower reinforcing pad, ready for the unit to be epoxied into the bottom hull rebate. - (Pics added to show the centerboard case parts with the assembly method.) Once that's set, the upper centerboard case reinforcing pad, which is a firm push fit over the case will be epoxied in.

    JB

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    8 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Steve, even toaster today !

    33.5 inside today,- shed 37, grass 40?! deck temp 69, Highest temp ever since I've been on the coast here in Orewa, (16yrs) good for the glass again though! No aircon, every window and door open and still 31 inside with a breeze blowing through. I think someone's cut our anchor cable and we've drifted over the ditch towards you guys ๐Ÿ˜€

    With your last big fires a few years back, our sky went red, and the smoke here was like something was on fire locally, and it was like dusk at 3pm. Amazing it can travel over 1000 miles and still be so strong. Same thing happened back in the 70s during a huge fire there, when Skippys' place burnt down in the Ku-Ring-Gai Chase park. I was living in Sydney, and I'd been right up to the end of the chase about 2 months before I came back- and the fire happened not long after. The whole place was 6ft thick bracken and bush, and went up like a match. Being a dead end, there's no escape from there if there's a fire.

    We also get plagues of your Xmas/ golden nectar beetles which get everywhere in the house. Hope there are no fires near you, sounds a bit rough at the moment ! What area are you in?

    JB
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    9 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,

    35 in the shed is pretty toasty but good for setting your fiberglass resin and 30 in the house is not much fun, I hope things have cooled off a bit now.
    Skin cancer is a problem over here as well.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    9 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Steve,
    35C in my shed yesterday, while I was adding the deck f/glass,- 30C in the house. F/glass was setting in around 2 hrs ! I try and stay out of the sun here, as we have very high UV due to a hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica. We have the highest skin cancer rate in the world, but still have all the idiots sun bathing all day on the beaches.

    JB
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    11 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,

    Anybody who says they like this sort of weather needs to have there head read in my opinion.

    Fire danger is in the extreme today which is not a good place to be hopefully none of the fires get to the catastrophic level, it got to 43 where I live. When I got home from work today the front room was 34 while the rest of the house was 29. The A/Cs are still going 4 hours after I got home trying to cool the house down.
    We have had a cool change of sorts the temp is now 31 outside.

    Similar over here with weather variation we have had fairly mild weather apart from a few extreme days, next week is looking a lot milder with temps around 25, much nicer.
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    12 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Steve,

    not jealous at all, bet your aircon's working overtime ! Only 28 inside here today. Putting a new roof on my bathroom on Tues, you could have fried eggs on the roof, - you'd set fire to them on your roof at 42! Saw the fire risk was not looking good at the moment, hope there are no more big fires. The weather has gone weird here, with fruit trees doing odd things and producing more than ever before with the climate change.

    We just finished a round of big thunderstorms sweeping over Auckland and up north where I live. Next day it's back to blazing hot and humid (Auckland city is on the left of the windscreen in pic 1,- the small spikes on the horizon- 25km away - pic 2 it's on its' way up) Bit of an odd summer this year,
    rains, a big storm, wind etc, all round Xmas time not like it used to be.

    JB
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    13 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,
    Nice progress.
    It wouldn't take long to set over here today, with 42 deg C.

    Cheers,
    Stephen
    ๐Ÿ“ New Moth MKII semi scale yacht
    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Haven't built anything for a while due to lack of space (too many models) but the urge to build something was too great. After looking at many options, I decided to go with something 'easy' to build. I found some full size plans for an Australian MkI Moth which I'm building to a MKII (double chine) style.

    I'm building in foam and glass again to make things easier. It's 850mm long and 310 wide which is roughly 1/4 scale (original is 11 ft)

    Started by converting all the lofting measurements on the redrawn 1953 plan to metric and dividing them by 4 to get the scale.
    Next was creating the ply deck, then contact gluing onto it a piece of dense 50mm building polystyrene. This was then shaped with a surform file and the chines shaped afterwards using eyeometry. Then the 10mm deck foam was glued on so the deck sheer could be shaped.

    Next the cockpit foam was routered out, and basswood sides and inner transom piece epoxied in. After that, the ply outer transom piece and hardwood nose block was epoxied on.

    The centerboard case upper and lower ply braces were routered out (using the mill and a 1/2" slotting bit) large enough to accept the case sides, leaving enough room for the 6mm aluminium keel (can't use a centerboard for obvious reasons) which will have to have a bulb fitted.

    A rebate in the bottom of the hull was routered out for the lower c/board brace. These braces are needed to form part of a box structure with the floor and cockpit sides which the c/board can lever on. Once everything is eventually glassed in, it will make it very strong unit, so the foam will just be the shape surrounding the box, and not having any strain put on it. The ply deck will take the strain of the stays/mast.

    The cockpit floor was cut, and will be slotted the same as the braces, then the c/board case will be built.

    The mast on this is 1.486m tall, - sail is -luff -11.295, foot 609mm, so quite large for a small boat. The full sized boat is a lot of fun to sail, so this model will be interesting to sail. Unfortunately, without the human input required, and being a performance boat, it may assume the attributes of a submarine in a stiff breeze, - time and testing will tell.

    The basic mast was made from 12mm ally tube, boom from 10mm. Sail pattern was cut from art card to the plan. All laid out on the floor to get an idea of what it will look like.

    PDF is the history of the Moth. There were a number of versions round the world as it went along,- scow, international moth (dinghy type) and todays high speed foiling moth.

    Lots more to do yet

    JB

    2025 world champs, off the Whangaparaoa peninsula, just up from where I live.


    https://australianclassicdinghynetwork.org/moth
    https://www.moth.asn.au/
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    14 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    You have mad skills sir, cant wait to see her on the water!!
    Cash
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    17 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great! The next project will be 1:1 scale, awesome Jbkiwi!
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    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ stevedownunder ( Commodore)
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    Hi JB,
    Once again an interesting build and an early start to 2026.

    Cheers,
    Stephen.
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    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Madwelshman ( Lieutenant)
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    A nice, and very interesting model to build JB.
    That's a large sail area for a hull of that size (both model and 1:1), it should make for some interesting sailing.
    I'll stick to my Laser(1:1), that's enough for me and these days.
    I'm sure that I'm not the only one looking forward to hearing, and seeing, how well it performs.

    Will
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    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง luckyduck ( Lieutenant)
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    Good luck trying to keep the model upright, I used to race the Skol SD in the UK, when I was a lot younger, lighter and fitter - probably one of the last designs before foils came in - far to scarey for me. Fabulous to sail, grossly overpowered for it weight and size, flew like a lunatic in any decent breeze, but the greatest of rides. Would love to see how a model can sail.
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    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looks like an interesting project ๐Ÿ‘
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    18 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Admiral)
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    JB!!!!! Starting the New Year with another great build as it should be!!! An inspiration!!!!
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