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    Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
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    ๐Ÿ“ Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. I thought I would start an actual build log on the Graupner Tina. I did the gunwales, added some supports for the floor and assembled the floor today. The gunwales are made up of extruded plastic channel that is cut to size, then a pieces of balsa stock is glued in place. This assembly slips over the edge of the hull with the thicker part of the gunwale inboard. This is not as easy as it sounds, as the hull is made of a plastic that seems to be part abs, part styrene. Itโ€™s pretty tough, but the hull is flimsy in tortion until bracing is installed, and the gunwales help it keep its shape. Slow and easy is the word. Once I had the gunwales made up I tacked them in place, and when I made sure the hull wasnโ€™t twisted I ran thin ca on the mating surfaces. The transom gunwale was a bit of a pain, but I got her in. Needed a spot of filler on the diagonal joints at stem and stern, but it looks the part.
    I then added the floor supports and built up the floor, which is made up of 4 parts of die cut ply, doubled up for strength. I sanded a bevel to almost kind of match the hull sides angle, and did a test fit. Needs a touch of the sanding block in a couple of spots but sheโ€™ll fit.
    Thatโ€™s all I did this morning, will try to get some more done this week and Iโ€™ll post it here.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks for the comments yโ€™all. I agree with Rooky about Graupners kits. They sometimes take the long way around to get something done, when there is an easier way to accomplish the same thing. However, I like the German kits, Robbe, Graupner and Krick. Might be a little nostalgia as the first boat kits I built were when I was stationed at Ramstein, and I enjoyed every one of them. However, some of their aircraft kits were a little over-engineered. I helped a buddy build a Robbe Parat for electric power back about โ€˜91 or so. As we were building, I was literally chunking wood to the side muttering โ€œdonโ€™t need this, that is too heavyโ€ etc.
    That Parat flew nicely, and we actually had it thermalling a time or two.๐Ÿ˜€
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Nice building Cash,๐Ÿ‘ Graupner kits are a bit of a puzzlement at times, built many and found easier ways of doing things than graupner notes say, but you seem to be doing the build perfect so far, looking forward to the next bit๐Ÿ˜Š


    Cheers, Pete
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ MouldBuilder ( Vice Admiral)
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    This looks interesting. I will follow also.๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Like Martin I shall also be following your build .
    good luck with the rest of it.
    Cheers Marky
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Graupner Tina Rowboat build log
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great start.
    I will definitely be following this build.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Bulkheads
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Did a bit more yesterday. The bulkheads are made up of 2 pieces of die cut light ply each, one assembly per side. I assembled them, once dry I did a light sanding. I checked fit on the first pair and they needed a little adjustment. Once I have gone thru all of the bulkheads Iโ€™ll hit them with sanding sealer and install them.

    ๐Ÿ“ Bulkheads
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    So, I decided to install the aft and fwd pair of bulkheads, and so a test fit of the upper fairings and floor. From what Iโ€™ve read so far, the floor is designed to be removable as it carries the radio and rowing mechanism, while the fwd fairing just drops in place and is kept loos for whatever reasons that I have not yet ascertained. I measured twice, marked and installed, the aft set came about perfect, while the fwd fit the upper fairing slots but I had to adjust the floor slots after installation, which is no huge deal but still kind of disconcerting. Anyway, Iโ€™m plugging away a bit at a time, so the more I accomplish the more Iโ€™ll understand this beast. Donโ€™t like the idea of the โ€œslip-inโ€ fairing though. Gonna see if thereโ€™s a way around that.
    Cash

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks for the help Doug. Anything you come up with will be greatly appreciated.
    Yep, Iโ€™ve thought about building a gunboat from the Civil War, either side, but Iโ€™m pretty sure if I built either boat it would offend somebody, somewhere. Thatโ€™s the problem with my country. No middle ground, were like the old reed radios of the 60s. Hard left or hard right, no one seems to understand that life is like todays radios, proportional.
    Gโ€™night!!
    Cash
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Hey Doug? You seem to have a wealth of arcane naval knowledge.."
    Mornin' Cash,
    Thank you for your confidence and faith in my 'encyclopedic' knowledge!๐Ÿ˜‰
    But I have to admit that I mostly concentrate on WW2 and modern warships, with occasional excursions into the WW1 origins of some of the famous WW2 vessels.
    BUT: I have some ideas I want to check.๐Ÿ˜‰ Victorian RN or 19th century USN.
    In which case I would tend towards a white or cream hull.
    I think maybe the Confederate Navy might be appropriate for you?
    Or is that not Politically Correct in these crazy times?๐Ÿค”
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    What Iโ€™m thinking is to put some small narrow strips directly under the fwd fairing, something I can screw down the fairing down to. The aft fairing can use the transom support. This way, Iโ€™ll still be able to get the floor out with a minimum of effort if needs be.
    Hey Doug? You seem to have a wealth of arcane naval knowledge...Iโ€™m thinking about doing this boat up as a ships boat, captains launch or โ€œjolly boatโ€ from the mid 1800s to maybe early 20th century. Trying to find paint or trim schemes for a smaller boat of that type, maybe one with 2 rowers side by side with the officer of the day looking on, with a national flag and ships/officerโ€™s pennant to boot. RN or USN. Any ideas? I know Iโ€™ll have to find/make/modify smaller figures, and the uniforms will be another matter entirely, but if you know of any references Iโ€™d be eternally grateful. If anybody else is reading this, same goes, donโ€™t think itโ€™s rude to chime in. I can build the boat and get her running, but to get from where most of these boats end up to what Iโ€™m seeing in my poor, old tortured mind is gonna take some help.
    Thanks!!
    Cash
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,
    So far so good๐Ÿ‘
    "while the fwd fairing just drops in place and is kept loose for whatever reasons that I have not yet ascertained."
    I assume that by fairings you are referring to the fore and aft deck pieces?
    Seems to me that one of them must be removable. Otherwise you would not be able to remove the floor piece, or even insert it if you glue both decks down before fitting the floor๐Ÿค”
    Unless you can somehow make the floor in two sections?
    "From what Iโ€™ve read so far, the floor is designed to be removable as it carries the radio and rowing mechanism".
    Just a thought๐Ÿค•
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ“ Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. Iโ€™ve spent my time at the bench installing the bulkheads. I installed the aft and fwd pairs first, made adjustments to the slots in the floor plate, then dry fit, marked and installed the rest. Thereโ€™s also a bulkhead just aft of bulkheads 15 thatโ€™s supposed to be glued to the floor plate. In retrospect, Iโ€™m thinking it could have been glued to the hull proper, but the manual says glued to the floor plate, sooo...what I did to get it spot on is tacked it to the bottom of the hull with small drops of UHU, then laid medium ca on its top edge. I then sprayed the bottom of the floor with accelerator, and carefully laid it in place. Thirty seconds later I pulled the plate up with the bulkhead glued solid and in the right spot.
    I had one bulkhead that had shifted a bit during assembly, and I didnโ€™t catch it. I tried to remove it, but the top was glued fast and not coming off. I got the bottom loose, broke it free and shifted it just a bit, so it lines up better, and a little sanding saved the day. Iโ€™ve just given the inside of the hull a coat of paint, as well as the floor. Iโ€™ll lightly sand the interior, and the itโ€™s time to install the radio and oar drive. Once thatโ€™s done, Iโ€™ll remove the plate/mechanical/radio assembly (itโ€™s screwed down midships, and fore and aft to blocks in the hull) and finish painting the hull.
    Cash

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Nery, she might be a dory, but Iโ€™m not sure. Itโ€™s a Graupner kit, so I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s based on an American or European design, or if itโ€™s just a โ€œgenericโ€ rowboat.
    To be honest, I think sheโ€™d make a pretty steam launch.
    Cash
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,
    I think Nerys may be right, either a Dory or a Wherry.
    Although the Dory seems to be narrower at the stern than your boat.
    See here, from a USN Ship's Boats publication.

    https://maritime.org/doc/boatcat/cat-0008.htm
    https://maritime.org/doc/boatcat/index.htm#toc
    https://cottrellboatbuilding.com/
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Nerys ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She's looking very good Cash. Lovely shape. Looking at your pictures, I get the impression she is some sort of Dory, could you please tell me if that's correct or is she some other traditional US design.

    Cheers, Nerys
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    So far so good ,there's going to be a fleet of rowing boats soon.
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Bulkheads installed, a slight issue and a bit of paint.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Looking good Cash.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ Color change and rowing bits
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. Sorry Iโ€™ve been off the hook, itโ€™s been crazy at work. We usually have 6 people in the parts department, along with a driver and a stocker/receiver. Weโ€™re down to 4 total, not due to Covid as much as firings and resignations. As such, you could say weโ€™re in our โ€œBattle of the Bulgeโ€, and awaiting reinforcements. Anyway, i did get a bit done the past 2 weeks and this morning. Iโ€™ve repainted the interior and motor plate a darker shade of brown, and I have the electrics and working bits installed. Iโ€™ve made a video of the first test runs, now I have to remove the oar supports and do the rest of the paint. Also, Iโ€™m still playing with motors, this thing was designed to run on 4 volts!! Who does that!!???! Still not sure how Iโ€™m going to trim her, she just might end up being a dory instead of a jolly boat, but weโ€™ll see.
    Again, sorry I havenโ€™t posted or responded much, I get home Iโ€™m flat wore out. Hopefully weโ€™ll have help soon.
    Cash

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Color change and rowing bits
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Tell them heโ€™s moving the oar with telekinesis ๐Ÿคฃ
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Yโ€™know, thatโ€™s a good idea...I have the felling itโ€™ll quiet down a bit, but next shop time I might try it.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    The video was well done with the noise if you disconnect the coupling from the motor is it still loud.
    Rick
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Graham93 ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,

    Good progress. Looking great so far. I find the oar movement quite mesmerising.

    Youโ€™re right about ghosting. It really doesnโ€™t look right unless there are hands on the oars. Bionic Bill let go of one oar while out rowing last week and it looks real strange. One bystander was heard to say โ€œ how can he make the oar move without holding onto it?โ€ ๐Ÿ˜†

    Graham93
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Color change and rowing bits
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Thanks Ed. The Tina comes with a figure thatโ€™s jointed so it moves with the oars, but Iโ€™m thinking either a sailor from the late 1800s, a superhero or a toy stuffed squirrel. I โ€œghostโ€ a lot of my boats but I canโ€™t quite get away with that on this boat๐Ÿ˜
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Martin. Yeah, sheโ€™s loud. My daughter called it โ€œannoying โ€œ to which I repliedโ€you should knowโ€๐Ÿคฃ
    Anyway, I still have some rigging, fitting and painting to do, and the mechanical plate isnโ€™t bolted down yet so that might make her a bit loud..but then again, all the Tinas Iโ€™ve seen on YouTube are noisy too๐Ÿ˜ณ
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,

    That looks fantastic!
    Do you have a figure for your boat yet?
    I also like the color you used for her insides
    I think the color helps to camouflage her working parts!
    Very good! I like!

    Cheers, Ed
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Color change and rowing bits
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi cash,
    She is coming along nicely and looks bigger than i thought.

    She sounds a bit loud but hopefully it just needs a bit of running in or a bit of tweaking to quieten her down.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ More Paint
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi all. Painted the hull this week, I used Tamiyaโ€™s Racing White for the hull, and a mix of Tamiya Royal Blue and Testors โ€œAztecโ€ brand blue for airbrushing. The white is a lacquer rattle can, the blue was airbrushed. I also tested a different motor and I think itโ€™s the right direction for this boat, a 2 to 1 geared Speed 400. I havenโ€™t installed it yet, tested it on a lash up, and it works well. After I get it mounted, Iโ€™ll start finishing the interior and fairings.
    Cash

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Paint
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Seawolf ( Master Seaman)
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    Nice build so far, I have the same model as yourself, but have a problem looking for the build instructions in English. Wondering if you could help

    David
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Nice colour scheme ,I've been out of commission for most of the last fortnight ,so I'm enjoying catching up with all the builds.
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ“ Motor change and 2nd test vid
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. Hereโ€™s the video of the second test, this was after I had decided to use a geared Speed 400 unit vs a direct drive motor. Power transmission with a 7.4 lipo is much more manageable-sheโ€™s just in a hurry at full chat, not trying to tear herself to pieces!! Motor runs cooler too, and itโ€™s a bit quieter..but just a bit.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Motor change and 2nd test vid
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,
    Test it again in some wet stuff and I think you'll find that the water will deaden the sound considerably. Suspect the main source of noise is the gear box!?๐Ÿ™‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Pete. I think the hull acts a soundbox, but it doesnโ€™t get really noisy till I add the oars. Wonder if they are transmitting the sound from the rowing mechanism to the hull?
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi Ed. The kit came with a figure that is jointed, donโ€™t know if it was originally part of the kit or an optional โ€œfittingsโ€ kit. Still up in the air who I want rowing this thing. Iโ€™m really leaning towards a stuffed squirrel, or a Marvel superhero..Ant-Man maybe..
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    Greetings Cash, the 'Tina' seems much better after you added the gearbox, does the boat hull act as a soundbox? or is it that these motors are just noisy!
    Looking forward to seeing her maiden sail.๐Ÿ˜Š
    Cheers, Pete
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,

    I really like the paint scheme!
    You chose very good colors!

    Do you have the figure for it yet?

    I can't wait to see the Maiden Voyage!

    Cheers, Ed
    ๐Ÿ“ Just about done.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    So, I decided that the 7.2 Speed 400 motor was just a little too โ€œhotโ€ for the Tina, even with the 2-1 gearbox. I had purchased a 5 pole 380 sized motor that was very mild, installed that and gave it a go..it was a little too sluggish on 2 lipo. Against my better judgement I tried her on a 3 cell and whaddya know? Perfect. Good turn of speed but not too much, I can actually โ€œthrottleโ€ it down to a much slower pace if I want.
    So, electrics are done, wiring completed, everything bolted/Velcroed down and tightened up. The figure that came with the kit is in place, I need to paint the oars and probably do a ballast check, add ballast if needed, then try her out!
    Cash

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,

    You've done a great job on the row boat!

    I can't wait to see it on the water!

    Cheers, Ed
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    "Row,row,row your boat gently down the stream , merrily ,merrily ,merrily ,merrily life is just a dream".
    Great build .
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Just about done.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Seawolf ( Master Seaman)
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    Nice work Cash, looks stunning and Cash junior. Have to make a video.

    Thanks for all the information

    David
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Just about done.
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Cash,
    Looking forward to see it in action.

    Martin555.
    ๐Ÿ“ Maiden...and a minor !!??**+! Setback
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. After much fiddling, checking, rigging and bench running the Tina was ready for her maiden. I took her out this morning. I rowed out about say, 50 feet or so, made a right turn, and then...nothing. Dead in the water.
    You could hear the motor running, the oars would move a little, then nothing. My buddy Mike Duran has a flat nosed Hacker airboat that weโ€™ve earmarked as a recovery boat, so he fired her hip and pushed me back to port.
    I thought that I had stripped the spur gear, I did a partial disassemble lakeside, but I couldnโ€™t tell what happened, so she went back to the trunk of my car and I ran my little Billings Coast Guard boat the rest of the morning.
    I took a good hard look at her a few hours ago. I stripped the boat down to the rowing gearbox, and removed it. I swear the thing was built in the mines of Moria, as the mechanism comes pre assembled, and getting it apart was a challenge, but I did it...and I found the culprit. Thankfully, all gearing is intact.
    There are 2 pins, or shafts, that everything is attached to. The spur gear and both crank arms are held in place by set screws going through their respective bosses. The spur and its boss are one solid piece, while the boss for the arms are attached to the arm with a large brass washer pressed or peened on.
    What was happening is that the boss for the driving crank was spinning around inside the crank. No power was getting applied from the spur to the rowing arms.
    I had to remove the set screws and pull both shafts to get the arms out, and as I did, what looked like either cellulose or super glue came out from between the shaft and crank.
    I think that the boss for the crank was bonded into the arm, and the washer was there as a backup, and age and some of the lube I used helped work it loose. Iโ€™m pretty sure I can fix it.
    Iโ€™m going to soak it in alcohol and maybe give it an acetone bath, then dry it off, roughen up both the boss and arm, and Stabilit that sucker! I would really like to drill a 1mm hole thru the boss into the arm and pin it in place too, but I donโ€™t know if my drill bits are up to the task. Weโ€™ll see.
    As an aside, if I canโ€™t fix it...well, I think sheโ€™ll make a fine steam launch, cat rigged sailing skiff or maybe fit her with an outboard. I have options, and Iโ€™m all kinds of stubborn..๐Ÿคฃ

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Maiden...and a minor !!??**+! Setback
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rookysailor ( Commodore)
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    That's pretty bad news on her maiden sail/row, don't let this little thing beat you Cash, you've done the hardest thing, that is finding the problem, now just use the skill we know you have to fix the little blighter, wishing you the best of luck.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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    Try Drilling it and put a taper dowel in if you get stuck. Taper reamers and pins you can get from a good model engineering supplier.
    Works on the cranks of model loco's
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Seawolf ( Master Seaman)
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    Hi Cash, sorry to hear about the mishap. From what I have been reading on other model sites this seems to be a common problem with the brass collar pushed in the plastic moulding most people glue them in and use teflon grease on the worm thread and gear too cause less friction and less wear.

    Stay Safe
    David
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,
    That is a shame after all that hard work.
    I am sure with your skills you will be able to fix it.

    Martin555.
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Vice Admiral)
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    Hi yโ€™all. I came home from work, spent a little time with the family, then went into the garage and tackled the gearbox. I had mentioned trying to drill and pin it, and Ianh mentions using tapered dowels. Unfortunately, thereโ€™s nothing around here I know of that keeps that type of stock, save maybe a jeweler. So, I decided to try to pin it with what I had on hand. I took a drill bit that was close to the inside diameter of both cranks, lined them up and used the set screws to keep them locked in place. I then drilled a hole, probably about 1.5mm in diameter, thru the boss, arm and peened washer. I found some brass rod that was a good, tight fit, and waddya know? It worked. I then cut the brass and cleaned up the protruding ends, put a little thin ca on the boss and pin, and finished up by roughing up both arms and using a tiny amount of Stabilit to keep either boss from coming loose. I then reassembled the boat and ran it full bore on the bench for about 15 minutes or so..I even lightly interrupted both oars, one at a time, by hand to see if anything gave. It works as advertised. Now Iโ€™m going to tinker with it to get as much friction out of the system as possible, starting with the rowing figure. Itโ€™s going to be a couple of weekends before I get a chance to try it again..weโ€™ll see what happens.
    Cash

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Fixed it!!!
    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ figtree7nts ( Admiral)
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    Hi Cash,

    I'm glad it all worked out!

    Cheers, Ed
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง marky ( Commodore)
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    Nice one Cash .
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Newby7 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    There you go keeping thous little grey cells working .Well done.
    Rick
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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    These things are sent to try us Cash.
    Hopefully you have fixed it.


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    4 years ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ianh ( Commander)
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