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    Maria Serra wooden barquentine
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    Thank you for the update and good luck with the build.
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    So pleased you are making some headway. That was a brilliant idea to write to the navy about her. Think you are right, she must have been cut down to a schooner and motor fitted prior to that. Anyway, best of luck with your no doubt continuing research.

    Cheers, Nerys.
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    RNinMunich
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    Progress!๐Ÿ‘
    Fingers crossed for you Daniel๐Ÿคž
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    Young at heart ๐Ÿ˜‰ Slightly older in other places.;-/ Cheers Doug
    DanielM
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    Hi Doug,

    Thank you for the wishes. They may have helped a bit ๐Ÿ˜Š.

    As an update to all -
    I received a short mail from my contact in Italy. The Maria Serra is referred in a book dealing with the history of the Navy in Italy. The most interesting added information is the fact that the Maria Serra was requisitioned by the Regia Marina (name of the Navy of Italy up to 1946) in 1940 and used as a minesweeper until 1943.
    It is described as a motor_sail schooner probably because the motor was added ( as suggested by Nerys) in 1925 when purchased by the coal company. Its description as a schooner suggest that at the time of the requisition (in 1940) she was already with only 2 masts (thus a schooner) and had a small motor installed thus able to do some mine sweeping.

    This is becoming interesting.

    Have a good week-end. Daniel
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    Auguro buona fortuna Daniel๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ‘
    Great project, if somewhat ambitious๐Ÿ˜ฎ, watching with interest.๐Ÿค“
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    Young at heart ๐Ÿ˜‰ Slightly older in other places.;-/ Cheers Doug
    DanielM
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    You may be right Nerys, on all points.
    As a short update: I did received a cheerful reply from the Founder & Curator of the Italian Museum I turned to. He did present "the doubt that one can still find the drawing or picture of the vessel". Yet he knew the Serra family (the builder of the ship) and promised to try and help me out.
    So this leaves me with some hopes. Small as those may be, still hopes and I wanted to share this with you.
    All the best
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    Do you know Daniel, I think delving into the history of particularly small ships is one of the most intriguing studies one can have. I've been involved for a good many years now and never regretted a moment. Best of luck with your investigation of the Maria Serra, I'm sure you will never regret the time you will inevitably spend on it.

    All the best, Nerys
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    Hi Daniel,

    Based on when she was built, I doubt very much that it was intended to fit an auxiliary immediately, but I expect when they did, removal of the mizzen would have been part of the plan. I would imagine that very little would have been done to ready her for carrying that many passengers. I would guess that they would more or less been herded into empty holds with the most rudimentary facilities.

    All the best, Nerys
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    Hi Nerys,

    Sure, I am aware of the time and effort I invest in this. Agreed, this is quite interesting. While at it I realized that the history of ships are mostly connected to the events she was involved in and the people that toke part in those events (I think there are numerous examples). Yet the details about building, adapting to changes, repairs etc. - namely some technical history, is seldom told. In this case I am interested to understand why the mizzen was removed? Was the auxiliary engine part of the original design or added at a later stage? How was the ship adapted to coal transport and mostly how was it adapted to take 604 survivor (men, women, children etc.) for a two weeks trip?
    I lately turned to a Museum in Italy, where there is a beautiful model of the Fidente (a 3-masted barquentine), for some lead in hope of interesting information. I promise to update after it reaches me. I might share some of the frustration ๐Ÿ˜Š.
    As to your suggestions - I will have a look at all of them in hope to find a ship as similar as can be. In the end the overall look and mostly the external details are those that will remind the original.

    All the best Daniel
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    Hi Daniel,
    It's a very interesting project trying to work out the history, the whys and wherefores of little known ships. It can be a lot of work and can become quite frustrating, but I wish you all success in this entire project whether it is the history of the ship or the building of the model. Will you build the full sailing version or the auxiliary? As a matter of interest a number of wooden barquentines were built around the Thames Estuary, late 19th C and early 20th. Howard of Maldon comes to mind and several of the ship builders of Faversham and Sittingbourne. 'The Big Barges' by Hervey Benham and Roger Finch is a book that could be of interest.

    Best of luck, Nerys
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