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    πŸ“ Finally
    6 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    She has now left the builders yard. What next?

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    πŸ’¬ Finally
    6 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent job Norm, as ever πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
    Cheers, Doug 😎
    PS 'What next?' - How about Warspite to keep the 'Old Lady' company?
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    πŸ’¬ Finally
    6 months ago by RHBaker ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Looks great Norm, well done.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Finally
    5 months ago by MouldBuilder ( Midshipman)
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    Looks amazing.πŸ˜‰
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    πŸ“ Davits and falls
    9 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Dreadnought had two boats on Davits,slung each side of the funnel, and actually directly above the midship main armament gun barrels. I would assume the davits were able to tilt outwards to allow the boats to be lowered directly outboard. Would anyone know what sort of winches the falls would have been paid out with, or were they simp[y lowered by hand? As far as I can make out the rest of here boats were accessed by the crane on the mainmast.

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    πŸ’¬ Davits and falls
    9 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Evenin' Norm, Welcome backπŸ‘
    How's it going? Have missed your Build Blog! 😭

    Don't think this will answer your question but I thought you might find it interesting and useful for other details.
    A 'know your ship' video πŸ˜‰
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHYXyOzPYlo

    Cheers, Doug 😎
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHYXyOzPYlo
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    World of Warships - Know Your Ship #25 - HMS Dreadnought Battleship
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    πŸ’¬ Davits and falls
    7 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    Happy New Year.
    Boats all done and lashed down.
    Dreadnought had multiple aerials slung between the masts. As far as I can make out they were connected onwards to a fitting just about at deck level right at the stern and also I think below the forward jack stay. I would have expected there to be connections down to the bridge or the housing forward of the after funnel. None of the photos I have are clear enough to show all the rigging, so some extent I am going to have to guess. She must have had signal halyards from presumably the main yard, but again where did they come down to. The bridge does not have much open space around the main house, so they must have come down to the upper bridge to presumably a rack? Any ideas?
    I have fitted canvas dodgers around the bridge, but am not too happy with them. At this scale very difficult.
    We have good shipbuilding weather, -12c at midday today. They are ice fishing on our lake.
    Take care.

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    πŸ“ Thwarts
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Would the thwarts on a cutter in the early 1900s have been teak or a white wood?
    Current state of build attached. She will have two steam pinnaces, probably four cutters and two or three whalers and a dinghy.

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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm,
    I can't prove it but I would have thought teak cos of it's close grain, natural oil and resistance to salt water. 'White woods' would be naturally more open grained, softer and absorbent, they'd have been constantly replacing them😲 cheers, Doug 😎

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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    Thought you would probably say that. I have always left my thwarts pale, dark varnish on basswood. look nice but probably incorrect? They are not going to be changed on previous models!

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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    8 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug, Simple question. Do you know the length of the oars on a whaler. I would think about eight feet, but could be wrong.
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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    8 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm,
    I think you are wrong!😲
    Found this in a museum article -
    "Whalers were made in two sizes, 27 foot and 25 foot and were able to be both pulled and sailed. When being pulled they were single banked, that is a single oar was used from each thwart, three on one side and two on the other. The oars had a central shaft of Oregon pine, with laminated blades, four of them being 17 feet long and the bowman’s 16 feet in length.[4] When under sail the boat has two masts and carries a β€˜Montagu Rig K’."
    http://navymuseum.co.nz/naval-whalers/

    The entry also gives an insight into construction techniques and materials used πŸ˜‰
    Best wishes for the coming 'Boat Year', Cheers, Doug 😎
    http://navymuseum.co.nz/naval-whalers/
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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    8 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    Attached boats. Opinion please. Not sure how they would have stowed sweeps.
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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    8 months ago by figtree7nts ( Commodore)
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    I really appreciate your skills!

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    πŸ’¬ Thwarts
    7 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm, sorry for late response, been under the weather latelyπŸ€”
    Can't find now where I saw it but I believe the oars were bundled and lashed to the gunnels in some kind of bracket arrangement.
    Cheers, Doug

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    πŸ“ guardrails
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    I have always painted guardrails to whatever grey the vessel is in 1e home fleet, mediterranean etc. But in one photo of Dreadnought they look darker, maybe black. Anyone have an opinion?

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    πŸ’¬ guardrails
    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Go grey young man ! πŸ˜‰
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    πŸ’¬ guardrails
    8 months ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Odd query.
    Canvas dodgers. Grey or tan? Tan looks better on a model - gives some contrast to the eternal grey, but better to be correct.

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    πŸ’¬ guardrails
    7 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm,
    I believe they (splinter padding) were grey, but I have also seen tan on other ships. Mostly WW2 though, like the Flower class corvettes.
    Maybe tan in peacetime grey at war!?
    Cheers, Doug 😎

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    πŸ“ Foredeck
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    How does this look to you? Still working on the guard rails.

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    πŸ’¬ Foredeck
    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm, not bad πŸ‘
    Coupla points:
    1 Weren't the two capstans on the stb side mounted on the same base plate? See attached GA drawing.
    2 And there seems to be a slightly larger general purpose capstan on the centre line slightly forward of the anchor winches, and a few other 'doodads' dotted about the foredeck.
    3 The hawser pipes should be more elongated and angled towards the hull side.
    Neat work neverthelessπŸ˜‰ Cheers Doug 😎
    PS: the bollards on the port side seem to be just forward of the anchor winch.

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks. Had not forgotten the big capstan, and there may have been four 14lb guns but difficult to tell from photos. I can alter the base plates for the anchor winches easily enough.

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    πŸ“ Ctheads etc
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug, What ship's foredeck was that? Hood maybe? Looking at the bow shot you put up I cannot see any catheads. From the drawings I have, which are not Admiralty, she had three capstains feeding the chains into only two lockers. Odd. There is also a very large capstan about twenty feet aft of them.

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    πŸ“ Catheads
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    Your shot of the foredeck is great, but I cannot find any pics of the clump catheads. They must have had some sort of winch, so I assume they were just a heavy protrusion with the winch mounted behind it?

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    πŸ’¬ Catheads
    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm,
    Why a winch?
    I believe the catheads are only there to hold the chain away from the side and stop the anchor bashing the hull until it is fully weighed. Hang over from wooden ship days.
    Or "Small projection from ship’s side just abaft hawser pipe. Used for suspending an anchor when cable is disconnected and used for mooring to a buoy." See pic of 1/192 version from John R Haynes,
    Cheers Doug 😎
    http://johnrhaynes.com/catalog/fitting-list/product/JRH18/?
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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Clump or Clamp! 😲
    This is basically what they looked like I think, see J6 in attached pic. 😎
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    πŸ“ Winches
    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Doug, Have you any info on Dreadnought's anchor winches? She now has all,I think!, of her portholes, well over a hundred. Anchors next, then guard rails around the focsle.

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Evenin' Norm,
    Best I can do are GA drawings, focsl photos are as rare as rocking horse droppings πŸ€”
    They don't seem too complicated though. Just simple capstans with the drive motors 'downstairs ' near the bilges.
    So far so good with the build πŸ‘ keep it up, cheers Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    What a beautiful model. Whose? Keep seeing things differently. The 14pdr gune set up on the main turrets on that model seems a bit different from the photo I have of a rear turret. I will stay with what I have done and say a prayer or three.
    Have started on anchors, see pic. The shot you gave me of the bow shows the ab
    nchors very well. They were huge!
    Don't look too closely at my pic. There is all sorts of cleaning up to do!
    I am surprised the anchor chains seem to be hauled across the deck planking. Nelson had steel runways for the chains to run across.

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm, as far as I can make out Dreadnought had the same steel chain 'runways'. All manufacturers versions of the model show them as well.
    Re: 14pdr AA guns. Some pics attached, including fwd turret.
    1. Fwd turret
    2. 'X' turret
    3. Mid & Aft turret.
    4. Stern view, Portsmouth dry dock 1916.
    Hope these help, cheers Doug 😎
    PS: you might find this useful! From the 'Know Your Ship' series.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHYXyOzPYlo
    The model pic is from Trumpeter I think.
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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks Doug. Help appreciated! X turret pic very helpful for the after mast set up.

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm, very glad to help. You have already proven with your magnificent Illustrious that it's well worth the effort.
    I'm only slightly sad that we will never see Illustrious or Dreadnought at sea! πŸ€” Nevertheless, super buildsπŸ‘ Keep up the good work, cheers Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    As I already have six working models, my lady suggested they were enough to take to the lake, and I did actually agree! Most of them are 1/96, only Nelson 1/192. The smaller scale is a bit vulnerable. Illustrious at 1/96 would never fit in my workshop, which also has a washing machine and dryer. But yes, I would have liked her to sail.

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    BINGO!!
    Just found a photo of the foredeck showing winches (capstans) and chains.😊 Hope it's not too late 😲 Cheers, Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Really great, thanks. The view to the bridge is odd. Did she undergo a major refit. The entire bridge looks different.

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry Norm, Got a bit carried away πŸ€”That's HMS Hood, but I strongly suspect that the capstan / anchor chain arrangement would have been very very similar. After all Hood was only 10 years or so later and much from the Dreadnought was used again and/or improved.
    Suspect that, as you said, foredeck arrangements were virtually identical on the Nelson class. Cheers, Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    At least she looks like a warship at last. I wonder if her anchor winches would be different to those twenty years later. She had multiple booms for torpedo nets. I assume they were mounted to the hull a few feet above waterline and swung out from there. Were they wood or steel does anyone know? Must have been quite an operation setting them out!

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    They were wooden spars Norm, but removed a few years later when net cutting torpedoes rendered the nets useless, and just a time consuming encumbrance. Depends what you want to build: As built or As in Service.
    So far so good πŸ‘ Cheers Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Progress at last, but have no info for focsle arrangement, winches etc. Assume would be similar to Nelson's, even though twenty years previous?
    From what I can see, her guardrails were mounted on the deck planking rather than outside on the steel

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    1 year ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Norm, maybe this GA dwg and bow shots will help a little?
    Cheers Doug 😎

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    1 year ago by Gdaynorm ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Actually you sent me the bow shot some time back. What I am missing is the layout of anchor winches and anchor chain runs. I guess they will be similar to Nelson. Pity Greenwich has got SO expensive!

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