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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
5 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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5 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
5 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Doug.
I don't think putting crew figures on boats is always necessary to make a model more realistic, if not done really well they can make a good 'scale model' look more like a 'toy boat'. Having said that, Sy's Atlantic 21 will look fantastic, and its single crew man is a legitimate use of a figure, and I know Sy will make him look the part too. In the case of Bionic Bill, HE is the prominent feature of the model and although made from an actual toy figure Graham has brought him (and Ben of course) to life very realistically. The superbly engineered boat they sit in with all its hidden mechanisms is almost secondary, and it's the boat that is scaled to the figures, not t'other way round. Just my personal thoughts ....๐ Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
5 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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"No, I decided not to add any crew figures to any of my models"
So you are the Master of the Ghost Ships! Great shame Rob, a crew brings a boat / ship to life! Imagine Graham's rowboat without Bill, or Martin's submarine without his little mariners!๐ค Or my Sea Scout without the Police er Ladies๐ Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
5 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi hmsnostalgia.
No, I decided not to add any crew figures to any of my models because unless they are to the true scale of the model and in a natural looking pose I don't believe that they ever look very realistic. Robbob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง hmsnostalgia (
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Nice to see your craft on the water, have you decided whether to add any crew ?.
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hello Sy.
I've only just seen your update on your boat, it must have been while I was on me holibobs! and you certainly have made a magnificent job of it too ๐๐ And to see that you have incorporated some of the build features that I did is very pleasing as well and you have my absolute approval. Interestingly, I have just returned from the International Model Boat Show in Warwickshire where I made a point of visiting the Wicksteed Park Model Boat Club stand to see Roger Clements and his restoration of an original Veron Thames Police Launch that I used as a benchmark along with the 'photos of the model in the NMM for the detailing of my model. I hope she sails as well as mine does when you have the maiden voyage, I have included some 'photos of my model's first sea trials. Kind Regards. Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 (
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Hi again, just thought Iโd show a few pics of my build as it nears completion if I may? Itโs been a thoroughly enjoyable build thus far and looking forward to getting her on the water in the next couple of weeks. Just a few more details to make and add, a bit more varnish and good to go! I did build some lead into the hull fore, aft and sides under the hull box and between the outer sheets, guesstimated The weight and after a bath ballast test, itโs about spot on.
Most of the details are scratch built including the anchor made from bits of plasticard, anchor chain is just 20p of cheap necklace from a charity shop. All instrument dials, throttle quadrant again scratch built from plasticard with instrument gauges from a freebie given out in RCM&E a few years ago! However, I have and I hope you donโt mind, used a lot of the ideas in your build which I have read front to back so many times to gleam hints and tips. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Sy.
Thank you very much for your very kind words about my build blog.๐ I've not added any ballast to mine yet but if I need to it will be through the fore and aft hatches that I incorporated into my model as there's no other means of access to the innards. To be honest I have not yet put it in the 'test tank' (bath ๐) to check how she sits in the water and the accuracy of the waterline. As regards the prop, mine is currently a 40mm 2 blade S type but until I do some sea trials I won't know the current draw or how she performs. Alan at VMV would definitely be able to advise you on the best 3 blade prop to use. As for the Build Blog, it can be as brief or as comprehensive as you are prepared to make it and it's certainly not compulsory but other modellers, including myself, really like to see how a build progresses, and I can tell you from my own experience that the help, encouragement and praise that you get from those that read it makes the effort very worthwhile. If you can, do take 'photos as you work so that even if you don't do a blog during the construction you can still do one afterwards, and the pictures will be invaluable in bringing your words to life. I didn't start my blogs until I was at least halfway through the build and I had enough material to post consistently and regularly, but that was my choice. Anyway, I quite enjoy writing.......and I probably ramble on a bit too much too......so I'll leave it there. Happy Building. Robbob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: " Constructing the box"
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Skydive130 (
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Many thanks for your reply Robbob. I decided to order the motor from Hong Kong after all, I need a few other bits, so postage justified. I may do a build blog, but I very much doubt there is anyway I could improve on your blog, itโs a superb read!
Have you needed to add any ballast on yours? My concern would be trying to add ballast after deck is fitted as there would be limited opportunity to put in any lead unless feeding it through fore and aft hatches. Iโm hoping the extra weight in the ply box will be sufficient to get her on the water line without ballast especially as the waterline is quite low on the hull? One last question if I may? I would like to go the brass prop route as I do in all my boats, what size do you suggest, presuming 3-blade and using exactly the same set-up as your motor, esc and lipo combo? Kind regards Sy ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Display Stand
6 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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Stunning model finished off with an equally good stand.
I can only dream of constructing something of this quality. Perfect. ▲
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6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor (
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Love the colour and the finish, complements the boat.
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๐ฌ Re: The Display Stand
6 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Sets the boat off nicely!
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6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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Will be doing the same for the boys boat when were back from holiday, Ill post some pics of boat and stand ASAP. Nice easy design and looks the part.
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๐ฌ Re: The Display Stand
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Very nice indeed, really looks the part.
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๐ฌ Re: The Instrument Panel.
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Colin H (
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What a cracking idea. Well done and thanks for letting us all know about it.
Cheers Colin. ๐ ▲
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6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Superbly done Rob.
Really looks the parts. Well done. Martin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Instrument Panel.
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi John.
That's a good tip and well worth considering for the future๐๐. Thanks. Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Instrument Panel.
6 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Nice job Rob!
If I might offer a suggestion which might make it easier to make gauge panels for future projects. To save trying to cut around tiny prints, (fingers/eyes don't work so well with age) what others do with aircraft dashes etc is to drill through the dash panel with a spur drill (pictured) of the appropriate size for the particular gauge, against a piece of hardwood, after marking the hole positions on masking tape applied firmly to the panels' face (to prevent damaging the face). You get a nice accurate hole which you can edge seal and blacken, thereby giving 'depth' to your gauge cluster. You can then roughly cut the prints to size and position/glue them on a backing panel and spray with clear, or sandwich them between some thin acetate sheet, the backing plate and your dash panel. Probably selling snow to Inuits, but others might be able to use the method. John B ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Cover
5 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง drspock (
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Well played Sir!
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Maiden voyage will be very soon and if she veers off to a magnetic north heading I'll know I've definitely overdone the magnets ๐คฃ
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7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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"don't go near any powerful magnets"
Don't take it on The Tube Rob, she'll get ripped apart !๐ฎ๐ญ ๐๐ ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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Nice work Rob, but don't go near any powerful magnets or it'll be ripped from you hands or worse still sail off into the distance.
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7 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Nicely hidden!
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Hi Robbob,
Excellent workmanship yet again. You really have a boat to be really proud of. It is a pleasure to look at it. Keep up the good work. Martin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Waterline/Boot Topping.
6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi hmsnostalgia.
It all turned out OK in the end, and a lesson learned on the way. Cheers.๐ Robbob. ▲
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6 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง hmsnostalgia (
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Always more than one way eh !!, I should think even very experienced builders get stuck, a build blog is great for beginners and 'old hands' alike !!, great work Robbob !!. ๐๐๐๐
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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CRash tender going slow and your right the boys freeman is nearly finished, good job its his Birthday in two weeks.
however still been doing a bit hoses now finished. I must get going with the painting, I have all the paints as per your recommendations, so with weather prospects being better maybe its time to get going ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Waterline/Boot Topping.
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Mike.
IMHO it's much better stuff than the Trimline tape when you have to go over awkward shapes. How's the Crash Tender coming along?, I've not seen any updates recently. I suspect the Freeman 22 for the lad is taking a priority๐. Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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Rob sent of for some 4mm trim you recommended and it arrived today and I was impressed with the inclusion of application instructions. I will try it first on the Freeman 22 I am building for my Grandson.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Good to hear that you're contemplating doing a blog๐.
Looking forward to seeing how you're tackling the re-furb. Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 (
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I have it in mind to do a blog, but donโt simply want to repeat material in some of the excellent blogs on this site covering Crash Tender builds, including yours. Iโd want to cover details not in existing blogs. Iโm currently waiting on parts from China before Iโll have anything new to show.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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If they are waterslide decals you'll definitely need to lacquer over them.
Self adhesive vinyl decals would probably be OK but I'd still do 2 coats of lacquer over the whole hull anyway. Why not do a blog on this build /refurb? Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 (
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Yes, in a couple of days time. Even though they say it isnโt necessary, I donโt like the idea of not sealing all the decals.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Graham.
Well done! but keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't lift. Will you be lacquering over it? Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 (
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I managed to fit the Trimline tape together with the rest of the decals. The tape didn't want to stick properly where it folded over the spray rails, so I tried heating it carefully with a hot air paint stripper and then pressing it into place while warm. That seems to have done the trick and it still looks to be OK this morning. A hair dryer would have been safer (cooler) but I don't have one and I didn't dare 'borrow' one from my wife!๐คฃ
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Good luck.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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I am glad that you managed to sort it out. Well done.
I never though of using tape, I have always painted mine. Thanks for the idea. Martin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Waterline/Boot Topping.
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Graham93
Good luck with the Trimline tape, it may well work fine for you. Do leave it on for a few days to see if it lifts before spraying any lacquer over it though. Particularly where it crosses over the spray rails at the bow, if it shows any signs of lifting bail out and use the vinyl tape from Stripeworld. Keeping my fingers crossed for you ๐ค๐๐ค Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Graham93 (
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Thanks Robbob. Very timely. Iโm planning to add Trimline to my Crash Tender later today. At least I now know where to go for a recommended alternative if it doesnโt go well.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Dave.
Here's a link to the eBay site for 'Stripeworld' as requested ๐. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง rolfman2000 (
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Glad it came right for you on the second attempt Robbob. Please can you share a link for the pinstriping tape off Ebay, obviously or the seller which would probably be better, as we contact him for whatever width we needed.
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7 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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That is a super looking boat. The detail is extraordinary. It looks just like the real thing. Hope I can do something like that one day.๐
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Mike.
Well, the model isn't 100% finished yet, I have still to 'box in' the battery and power switch and most importantly do the 'Sea Trials'. So I have a few more blog updates to do yet. What's next?..........no idea๐ค I'm open to offers if someone wants a prototype built up and blogged ๐ Perhaps I'll take a break from model building for a short while and just enjoy playing with them ๐ Rob. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง mturpin013 (
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Whats Next ?
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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She certainly looks good well done.
Fantastic workmanship. Something to be really proud of. Martin. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Handcuffs Dave!!!? ๐ฎ
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Very nice handy work.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง rolfman2000 (
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And here was I thinking there was no more detail you could put on, apart from a pair of furry dice and a pair of handcuffs, you've done it again Robbob. Nicely reported and photo illustrated again. Best wishes, Dave W ๐
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6 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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I must remember the 'grab handles' as well then๐ฎ๐
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Thanks Doug.
Don't forget the handcuffs for your Sea Scout. Apparently they're quite 'En Vogue' ๐ ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Excellent Rob๐
Think I'll do that to 'tart up' my Sea Scout a little. ๐ KUTGW. Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Brass Cabin Trim.
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Thanks Martin.
I'm going to add a little bit more cabin detail soon, there's a curved spray deflector on the roof and some grab handles on the rear edge, you can see them in the NMM 'photo. Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Brass Cabin Trim.
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Hi Robbob,
Nice touch, That is a really super model. Excellent workmanship. Well done. Martin. ▲
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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A Nice neat rudder.
Well done. Martin. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Box & Power Switch
7 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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No worries robbob, I've done exactly the same (18 planes and 5 boats- no 6 coming up) so needed to standardize plugs (same with JST plugs all female going out) but I've found that occasionally you end up with a space you just can't get your fingers in to pull the plugs apart without breaking something. The seaplane tender i'm doing at the moment will hopefully be all 'plug and play' (motors included) as I have the space to do it in.
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7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi jbkiwi.
I've standardised on XT60 connectors on all my models, batteries and chargers for maximum flexibility and interchangability, also there's a wide range of mounting options and accessories for them from HobbyKing. The MT60 & MT30 motor connectors are great and there's also the XT30 and XT90 range for smaller and larger current demands too. The batteries are a snug but not tight fit in the battery box and I've not experienced any LiPo battery swelling problems (yet)๐๐ค ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Box & Power Switch
7 years ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Nice battery box idea. Just a thought though, the Deans type connectors are a lot smaller than the XT60s (50%) an a lot easier to get apart in a confined space (especially in emergencies) I had to do a one side fixed method in one of my planes due to lack of room using XT60s, as there was no way to grip and separate both. There is a tool available to separate them apparently, (I was thinking of modding a pair of circlip pliers) XT 60s are more for high amp use (eg 30A plus), also the Deans are brown which would not clash with your woodwork, should you need to leave one exposed (although I can't imagine you leaving the battery box lidless ! PS don't have the battery box too tight as sometimes the batteries (although supposed to be the same specs) can come a few mm larger, also in case the battery 'puffs' as it degrades. Heat shouldn't be a problem but is something to think about.
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Box & Power Switch
7 years ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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That is a really clever solution.
Love the quality of the woodwork and finish as well. Gives us all a benchmark to try to achieve. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Box & Power Switch
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง robbob (
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Hi Martin.
Yes, I've been looking at your Cottesmore blog.๐๐ I'm glad to hear that you've taken inspiration from my own solution to hiding switches. Rob. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: The Battery Box & Power Switch
7 years ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Martin555 (
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Hi Robbob,
Excellent I like it, very clever. Well done. As you may have read in my blog on Cottesmore I plan on changing things around so that I don't have to move the superstructure to switch it on and off. You have now given me in idea of how I could make my switch using the aft winch. Thank you. Martin. ▲
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