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    Oceanic
    Latest acquisition !! A restoration and upgrade project. Approximately 40 year old plastic model of Oceanic. A German built and for many years operated Ocean Going Tug build 1969 Much to do as it needs a full mechanical refit, having just two 2mm shafts plus motors and a rudder but no other gear at all. On the cosmetic side the superstructure needs some serious work as it has transfers for much of the detail, like windows, portholes, doors and vents. Strangely she has no handrails or companionways between decks, plus many other bits. Have started a list of parts required to send off to Santa to see what may come at Christmas.
    My current fleet 14 July 2019
    At long last the new Dry Dock is completed, we now need a new centre piece for the dining room table. It needs to be something interesting to provoke conversation, which the models have done quite regularly. All I have to do now is finish the rest of the stuff that is not in camera shot!!!
    (Naval Ship) MTB
    A Deans Marine Kit. Flat Pack wood / ply. Made up to a nice model. Runs well, although it could do with a little more "bite" on the water As with all hard chine light weight boats it is prown to windage. Good on still waters but rubbish with a breeze in competitions. (Motor: 540) (ESC: tornado 20 amp) (7/10) Update July 2019 Have just received a new battery pack, a 7.2 volt up from a 6 volt. I just need a moment to try it on the pond to see if it runs any better. more later
    (Naval Ship) Huntsman
    This really is a build project, it is hardly out of the box. It will eventually grace the starboard side davits on Bulldog. However she shall be a fully working boat in her own right, a spin off from the Diana Challenge in a boat mag years ago. More when I get a whole lot more done (5/10)
    (Naval Ship) HMS Bulldog
    Metcalfe Kit at 1/48 She is has fine lines and looks well on the water. She handles reasonably well with independent control on each shaft given her length and the amount of superstructure too. She has direct drive on each shaft and need a load of ballast in the stern to keep the props well in the water otherwise she will cavitate quite dramatically Running 2 x 12 Amp Hour lead acids she has a great run time, helped by her hull lines, she will carry her way for quite a distance, so yo need to keep your wits about you on a busy pond! She is an ongoing project / refit with new davits and ships boats to be added. (ESC: Action Electronics P94) (8/10)
    (Tug Boat) Yorkshireman
    Model Slipway kit, with the incorrect wheelhouse windows, may change them one day when I have time on my hands, i do wish!! Been refitted with a Bow Thruster and up rated batteries from 2 x 12 Amp Hour to 2 x 14 Amp to give a better run time. Fan cooling added t the main motors. She runs well and I am slowly mastering the slow speed tight manoeuvring that twin screws on independent control and a bow thruster can give. A proper "Little" Big Ship that looks the part. (ESC: Action Electronics P94) (8/10)
    (Working Vessel) Maggie M
    A Model Slipway Kit Built by my late father in law, Frank Ballard Runs well, handles Ok with its Becker Rudder and Kort Nozzle. Maybe time for a refit (6/10)
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Nerys

    On the late watch this evening

    Looks like Ro Ro is a tad older than we realise! Like 1851 and with trains and not road transport.
    Attached is a link to an IMO page, a little heavy and tragic reading as it covers some sad history, which I remember! Also a Wikipedia page which is very similar
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-on/roll-off
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll-on/roll-off
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    http://www.imo.org/en/OurWork/Safety/Regulations/Pages/RO-ROFerries.aspx
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Yes indeed they are different.
    Last one I went on weighed in at around 20,000 tonnes
    SS Forde was less than 1000 Tonnes?? And initially not a Ro Ro either! How times have changed.
    Added a more detailed link I found!
    Ian
    http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/ss-forde/
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Nerys

    Take a look at the attached link that good old Google has thrown up.
    Looks like the first two ships Townsend used are repurposed RN vessels!
    Ian
    http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/Townsend.html#anchor440796
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic refit
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Guys

    Anybody out there has any experience of a QIDI X Pro 3D dual filament printer and Fusion 360 Design Software.
    This is being recommended to me as a possible way forward.
    Thoughts guys, please.

    Thanks Ian

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic refit
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thanks Elsrickle

    Been thinking of a printer for some time, maybe this will focus the mind on the challenge.

    Me thinks Letter to Santa is in order

    Ian

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic refit
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Thank you Martin555,

    I have the feeling that I may need just little luck along the way.

    Ian
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    I remember this cropping up on a documentary years ago, fine vessel.
    Another famous actor owned a "Repurposed" ship, John Wayne, Wild Goose an ex WW2 Minesweeper that good old Google tells me is still in service as a Dinner Cruise Boat out of Newport CA.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Oceanic refit
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Well here goes the first steps of Oceanic's refit.
    She is around 40 years old, ABS hull with a wood / ply superstructure with transfers for the topsides detail!!
    There are a couple of motors, unidentified make, a pair of 2mm shafts with a couple of plastic three bladed props and a singe barn door rudder.
    So far research has thrown up that the original ship is still active.
    Photos and articles tell me she runs 4 bladed Variable Pitch Props in Fixed Korts with three rudders. One on each Kort and one midships, which could be a Becker Flap Type!
    As i have no details of the model a tank test has been expedited to estimate the load she will carry. Five cans of beans and the Superstructure and she is not far off. So I have around 2 kg to play with. Sounds a lot, but still need to keep the imagination in check, if nothing else to spare the wallet any undue pain!!
    First stab at a build list is attached as a starter for ten for my Christmas Wish List Plus i am thinking of adding a 3d printer as this baby is 1:87 so bits will be harder to find, so best start making a few myself!!
    More as I progress guys.
    Ian

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Nerys
    Just re reading the thread, which is a tad off course from a model tug, but what the heck.
    it would seem Superyacht is inaccurate, it looks like a sub set by the name Expedition Yacht is nearer the mark, especially given where they sail to. Antarctic Peninsular, transit of the Northwest Passage, destinations that one would nor expect from the shiny things in Monaco. Done the Antarctic, cannot afford to repeat so running on memories.
    They Expedition Yachts do look like tugs, that is what they were, but they are strong well found vessels that deserve further use, not the cutters torch to end as bean cans.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Martin

    Absolutely, agree completely. Reuse comes way before the cutters torches!

    Ian

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Doug

    Me again, just another interesting aside, the link has details of Artic P voyage to the Antarctic Peninsular going as far as 67 . 50 south
    Took the wife there for our Silver Wedding trip, we got to 68.17 south, Red Rock Ridge. Picture included, plus how you get ashore too. Awesome place, it was a bright sunny day with no swell at all. Around minus 5C with no wind. So beautiful to stand on the snow covered rocks and listen to the silence!! Have never been anywhere like it, and probably never will again!

    Ian
    https://www.boatinternational.com/luxury-yacht-life/owners-experiences/superyacht-arctic-s-owner-on-planning-the-perfect-voyage-to-antarctica--1673
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    7 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug

    Trawling around as you do and found this article on converted tugs. This is a sister ship of Oceanic that has been converted. It reads as if this was converted in Valetta, Malta. That may answer your question as to what Oceanic is doing in Malta.
    Any how that is just an interesting diversion as the model will be rebuilt as a tug not a super yacht much more fun.

    Ian
    https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-register/top-20-explorer-yachts--25047/frame-14
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi All

    Ah I to remember the programme featuring Indonesia Floating Power Stations on Mighty Ships. Am on dodgy ground here as I am using my memory, I seem to remember it was a refitted tanker or bulk carrier refitted with a number of Wartsila Diesel Gen sets and a Sub Station. All towed by tugs and anchored close in shore.
    As has been said, not by Oceanic in this case.

    Doug agree with the HO scale. That would also fit as I think it was built from a German Kit
    More onto refit to follow in a Refit Blog.
    Just a taste for a starter.
    Have just done a test tank float out, as she is a bare boat with only two motors on board. Definitely unstable with no ballast, five cans of beans later and she is something like in trim. That gives me approx 2Kg of gear/batteries to play with.
    Now drawing up a Bill of Quantities for the refit.

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Oceanic
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    His Doug

    Thanks for your comments

    Your research matches mine. One bit of info suggested that she will be used to tow floating "Power Stations" to locations around Turkish coasts and then be converted into a Super Yacht for the owner.
    As to the models scale, that is an interesting challenge. The real ship is 87 metres and the model is 40 inches which is approx 0.7 of an inch over a metre. So that is a odd ball one!!
    Attached is a photo of what I think may be the original kit ???

    I shall have fun with her restoration and later on the water

    Cheers Ian

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    ๐Ÿ“ Oceanic
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Latest acquisition !!
    A restoration and upgrade project. Approximately 40 year old plastic model of Oceanic. A German built and for many years operated Ocean Going Tug build 1969
    Much to do as it needs a full mechanical refit, having just two 2mm shafts plus motors and a rudder but no other gear at all.
    On the cosmetic side the superstructure needs some serious work as it has transfers for much of the detail, like windows, portholes, doors and vents. Strangely she has no handrails or companionways between decks, plus many other bits.
    Have started a list of parts required to send off to Santa to see what may come at Christmas.

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    ๐Ÿ“ Warwick Model Boat Show.
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Guys
    I attach three photos of the NDMBC Stand on Remembrance Sunday. I was on duty back home delivering the Exhortation and Kohima Epitaph at our Parade.
    My colleagues toured the stands of attending clubs with invites to our Open Day on 27/28th June at Earls Barton, Northampton. See our website for entries if you are interested, using the "events" link thanks
    https://www.ndmbc.co.uk/
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    ๐Ÿ“ Warwick Model Boat Show.
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Nery's No problem, if my memory is correct Les has actually been aboard Venta many moons ago. Best take a ration pack with you as it sounds like you could be nattering for quite a while.
    BTW Has Fleet Admiral ( RN Munich) sanctioned sailing into foreign waters of the Midlands?
    enjoy Ian
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    ๐Ÿ“ Warwick Model Boat Show.
    8 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Nery's We have not communicated before. All the best with medical challenges next week.
    I hope you enjoy the show, unfortunately I shall have to miss it, due to being Joint Chair of a Royal British Legion Branch and will be on Parade. Looking at your Barge, it may be worth you dropping by our club stand, Northants & District Stand R and having a chat with Les our resident, ex London, Thames Barge model builder and sailor. He is exhibiting three barges. I attached a couple photos of "Venta" underway. Just a thought, safe journey and enjoy yourselves. Ian
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Yorkshire Man Tug
    9 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Guys
    Regret to say, Doug that I have never made it to Ostmark yet, although I now the Airport, Hauptbahnhof and Muchen Ost quite well. Not figured out so far how to pack a model so I could join you for Bier and Bavarian Hospitality. Had some of that in Frankenwald this September.
    Now to Yorkshireman Tug, Rocky. I run one of the early ones with the rubber belt reduction, driving each shaft, controlled by a P94 on individual sticks.
    Plus a bow thruster, rudders on right stick and Thruster on the left one
    All powered at 6 volts from a couple pf 6 volt 14 Amphr sealed lead acids, no need for extra ballast with those babies on board, It all works fine and after a little refresh after a lay off she will behave very well. Even giving enough confidence to take a hand off to consume refreshment, liquid or solid!!
    Happy sailing

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    ๐Ÿ“ Earls Barton Transport Show
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    this s a great transport show with everything from traction engines through grey Fergersons, trucks buses etc. Plus NDMBC Our home waters are on the Show site, so we have three days of great sailing on our own ground. Al set up for tomorrow, check our Facebook page
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/northamptonmodelboatclub/permalink/2527936167229377?sfns=1
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: HMS Hood
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Nerys

    I remember something very similar operated buy the RN based on narrowboat hulls around 50 or 60 foot long. I have memories of these attending Lincoln Water Festival on the Brayford Pool in the centre of Lincoln in the late 70's too.

    Carlos Have faith my friend it will float!!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Offshore Crane Vessel Bokalift 1, Build by Dutch sailing group Mail-line
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    WOW

    That is a Proper Ship!!!!! Superb Job Guys
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    ๐Ÿ“ Magnetic motors
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Colin
    Now that is interesting as it has set my mind off on a different thought path, model azipods. But that is a different story for a different thread another day.
    While it will do the same job, its design is different in that we are looking at putting the motor around the prop blades as opposed to motor in the centre. Thus mimicking the real world that RR and Voith market solutions for with their Tunnel Thrusters.
    I am guessing Doug is correct with his workshop capabilities and cost observations on the tunnel drive. Maybe one day when the kit is available....... Who knows what is possible?

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    ๐Ÿ“ Magnetic motors
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Err!! Not my intention.
    Clone the motor design and wind a waterproof one then add the scimitar blades into the centre of the brushless, and you would have the tunnel drive??

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    ๐Ÿ“ Magnetic motors
    11 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Guys It is a different beast, but is this a potential start point for the direct drive tunnel thruster. It is a thin direct connected brushless motor !
    http://www.bauer-modelle.com/49200BE
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    ๐Ÿ“ 46" RAF Crash Tender
    12 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Not sure if this clip helps you or not, what ever it is worth a look.
    If there is not room for that, even if you lengthened the centre shaft to bring the outboard motors nearer the centre line. Then what about this thought. UK supplier Cornwall Model Boats and others do gear packs. If you can get 1:1 gear sets. mount between two perspex sheets with suitable bearings to form a dropped drive line with input and out put on the same side. Make two units and mount on port and starboard shafts with the motors aft, over the shafts. If you are short of width angle the gear sets inwards at the top to bring the motors closer. Then just mount the centre motor direct on the end of the centre shaft in the conventional way, With a bit of luck and good model engineering all three motors will be accessible through the same aperture. Just a thought for you. It of course could be totally wrong too!
    PT 596 first water test.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Transport System for model boats
    12 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug, So far I have not had any issues with it on grass, gravel or earth surfaces. Time will tell.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Transport System for model boats
    12 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Martin I have a similar folding trolley. It is great because it folds quite small and is Ok for one model. It is a challenge though when you have a 120cm plus model on it navigating around people to / from the pond.
    So Christmas came and a new platform trolley arrived as per the link. Models still overhang, but in the direction of travel. I tend to have a crate with all the essential bits at the bottom and then, depending on the day a couple of models on their stands lashed on top of the crate. Works very well even over a long grass walk at Model Boat Mayhem this year. Only about 75/80mm thick folded, the wheels tuck up inside the platform
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-Platform-Truck-200KG-Silver-SXWTC-PC507/dp/B01N95BC8D/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=stanley+folding+platform+truck&qid=1564239291&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0
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    ๐Ÿ“ 46" RAF Crash Tender
    12 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Sounds good to me John B, it is down to what point on the boats time line you select to model.
    But space is not a new problem. Take a look at our RNLI Trent Class Lifeboats. They have staggered engines, one is direct straight in line and the other is on a Vee Drive facing the other way round. Apparently there is not enough clearance between the engines side by side, and they started with a blank sheet of paper!!
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    ๐Ÿ“ 46" RAF Crash Tender
    12 months ago by ikseno99 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    John and Martin Thank you for tolerating the slight deviation. You both make very sound valid arguments regarding the finer details of a boat.
    A very experienced warship builder I know often asks how far away you will be when examining a model. A foot, two foot or what ever. Then scale that up for say a 1/96 model destroyer and at 1 foot off you are viewing at 96 feet. After a tear or two of service and many coats of paint how many rivets can you see? There comes a point when scale accuracy just has to stop. My actual question was actually more aimed at the fact we were tied up in the detail of the finish, paint, and lights but there had been no comments that it only had one shaft and not two, or does that not matter as it is underwater?
    I guess I have talked this back to personal preference etc. Good Night all
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