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    H.Sw.H.S. Visby
    by Rowen ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ( Captain)
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    ๐Ÿ“ H.SW.M S. VISBY
    8 days ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    A contact in Australia put me onto a local decal manufacturer, who makes a sheet of decals for this model at this scale,
    Decided, although could make up my own decals with a local manufacturer, by the time all was complete would have saved little. Would also have to produce the artwork myself.

    Purchased a sheet from Australia in early Spring. It was in dry storage, in a sealed plastic packet until just before this blog was written. Suspect the months in storage might have caused a deterioration in the decal adhesive.
    As it dried the occasional corner started lifting. Slipped a small amount of canopy glue using a craft knife into these areas and the problem was overcome.

    Curious to know if others have found this issue with older decals.

    Once the decals were fitted and the adhesive dried, coated the model in a matt clear aerosol spray. Apart from the obvious improvement to a more realistic finish, this reinforces the decal adhesive and seals from water ingress.

    Have been postponing work on the gun, radar ranging aerial, main radar mast and rear deck fencing. These items are not straightforward to construct and will be covered in future blogs
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    4 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    Can't wait till May 2023 to see H. SW.MS. Visby sailing at Leander or June at Spencer's pool. P/S Bay may still be open but it's to cool for me! Great looking ship.
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    ๐Ÿ“ H.SW.M.S.Visby
    18 days ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Started to add the finishing touches.

    First added the navigation lights. These are behind the masking tape on the forward superstructure in the second picture. Spent ages trying to decide where they were on the real ship and finally stumbled across a picture where they had been left on in daylight. The coloured lights could be discerned behind a clear lens designed to minimize radar reflections.

    Decided to leave the radar support structure, radar and short mast off until the painting was complete. The wiring and switches had previously been fitted.

    The dazzle camouflage paint pattern takes careful replicating. Would have been assisted by detailed plans, but these are not available so had to rely on internet pictures.
    There are many pictures, however, the pattern dimensions have to be estimated. Ended up with quite a reasonable facsimile
    Now painted, the model is starting to look interesting. Quite amazing what paint does for a model!

    Like most warships, this class has evolved during service. There have been many changes to both profile and layout.
    Decided the best information showed the final vessel, K35 โ€œKarlstadโ€ this appeared to include the updates. Adjusted the model to replicate her.
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    ๐Ÿ“ H.Sw.M.S Visby
    25 days ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    A Shapeways bow thruster unit was installed. I used the mid-size unit to replicate the size on the vessel.
    It works well, but the amount of thrust generated is low and easily overpowered by windage. Would have been better to have used a larger version.

    Have some ideas about using a larger motor to increase torque and reduce the speed drop when operating in water. Not likely to get this completed before next Spring though. Anyway. want to do all the other finishing touches first.
    Also, used a cheap brushed ESC for the motor control as this is not a primary propulsion unit.
    Found the modulation to be disappointingly poor. It immediately went from to speed forward or reverse and was difficult to settle at the mid, null point.
    Rather than replace with a better item have used another Tx channel to provide a master switch for the bow thruster function.
    After much investigation found the ESC was for brushed, but the motor was a small two wire brushless! Chinese websites are light on detail. Decided to leave as is. Cannot find a small, light brushless ESC and as it works best to leave along.
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    25 days ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Yes Tora dog, just a simple on / off switch. Control the direction using the Tx lever function.
    Rowen

    A further note. A reversing on/off switch should also work fine.
    My bow thruster does not have the power to require modulation anyway.
    Rowen
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    25 days ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Yes Tora dog, just a simple on / off switch. Control the direction using the Tx lever function.
    Rowen
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    25 days ago by ToraDog ( Lieutenant)
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    Rowan,
    Those Chinese ESc's are a bear. So are the motors some times.
    I like your solution of simply using a switch. Are you using a reversing electronic switch in the boat?
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    ๐Ÿ“ H.Sw. M.S. Visby
    1 month ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Now the sailing season is essentially over, time to get back to writing this blog.

    Had a nagging suspicion the waterjets were still not quite right. Decided on another set of water tests to confirm.

    First, as the lake was nice and still, left the model quietly floating by the dock for around 15 minutes to check for leaks. There was no water ingress from the jet installations!

    Once underway, there was slight ingress from around the perspex panel installed in the inner stern. Nothing to be particularly concerned about as it was quickly drained with the bilge pump. See picture.
    Will reseal when it is removed for finishing and painting this winter.

    When observing the waterjets began to suspect one was still reversed. This might seem obvious but I use a single lever control for both motors, with the Tx Elevon control system. This makes establishing rotation difficult as the impellers are not visible.

    It was. Anyway, easily corrected. The already acceptable performance has improved noticeably.

    The jet performance is good and maneuverability using the nozzle steering controls only, quite satisfactory.

    All need to do now is figure out a way to operate the reverse buckets automatically when the throttle control lever moves to the reverse part of the gate!
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    ๐Ÿ“ H.Sw.M.S.Visby
    8 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Have reached a point where can conclude this yearโ€™s test program. This will allow building to restart next winter.

    Points are:

    1) Installed a 2S cell, which proves to be more than adequate. The model is controllable and has adequate speed, sufficient to produce an excessive bow wave.
    2) Had spent some time trying to locate and resolve leaks. This has been successful and leakage, whilst still exceeding conventional vessels, is not unreasonable.
    3) The audible water leak detector was effective, but irritating. Once the bilge pump had removed any water, it stayed on until the hull had dried. Am going to replace buzzer with flashing lights. I can then see when water builds up, but others do not hear it. Not so obtrusive.
    4) Cooling system works.

    Have tried and adjusted every system, and am satisfied they work properly.
    A boating buddy, Garth took a video which has just been posted in the Media Gallery. It shows the model in action. It also shows my lack of dexterity with waterjets and reverse bucket selection. And, in this installation, their rapid response.
    Model now drying out in storage until winter. Obviously last blog for a while.
    Can now concentrate on sailing other models rather than building!
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    8 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Beautiful sunny day with a strong onshore breeze. Considered the model would drift inshore if it failed, so decided to try it.
    The water surface was too rough to accurately establish if the ballast changes were correct, but if not they seem close.

    The waterjets work well. Plan to try a 2S battery next time, as think 3S tends to overpower.
    Rough water made it difficult to examine the waterjet action. There is plenty of power and the bow wave, even on one jet, is higher than scale.

    The foredeck was loose fitting, allowing considerable water ingress.
    Had adopted the suggestion from another modeler to fit a coffer dam ahead of the jets. This contains jet leakage in the stern area where it can be drained by the bilge pump.
    However, water splashed under the foredeck collecting in the hull forward of the dam, into an area where the pump does not reach.
    Was surprised just how much water had collected in the forward hull, significantly affecting the waterline.

    Also, could not confirm if the impellor rotation was correct. I like to use the Tx โ€Elevonโ€ steering function, although this tends to disguise the rotation commands. Determining rotation even when the propellers can be seen is rotating is misleading, when hidden it becomes even difficult.
    Tried adjusting the Tx functions, but the wind and waves obscured the effect. Back on the bench determined one was reversed. Now corrected.

    Would like to retain the convenience of Elevon control where both screws are controlled by one Tx lever. Wondering though if it would be better to control waterjets by the more traditional twin lever set-up. Planning the next test to explore this.

    One problem with waterjets is that there is minimal reverse function. Reverse is usually achieved by redirecting the flow using a reverser bucket.
    Also, the control reaction to reverse the model with the lever does not work. Trying to think of a way to overcome this.
    Currently, the reverse bucket needs selecting first and then motor forward again. No longer intuitive. With practice this might become easier to remember, hope so.
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    8 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Thanks JB,
    Have the three position switch on my Tx, but cannot see it doing much.
    The jet is essentially "through flow" when deselected and then, when reversed, a flap obscures the forward flow and redirects it through an aperture in the underside of the body. This reverses the flow.
    Steering is by rotating the nozzle. The functions appear to reflect those on the KaWeMa ones originally fitted.
    Rotating the nozzles using the Tx "rudder" function and reversing the flows using a single throw switch. This is ganged to operate two servos, one per nozzle.
    Did consider using a three position switch or a rotary one, but did not see any advantage.
    Rowen
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    8 months ago by jbkiwi ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Rowen, with jet units there are usually 3 stages when using the reversing bucket,-neutral, forward and reverse. Neutral is a position where the boat stays still with the motor idling in forward (the bucket is neither in forward or reverse). You can achieve this by using a rotary switch to operate the bucket through the 3 stages. With a jet boat, the motor runs all the time, and all stopping, moving and steering is done with the bucket.

    If you only want forward and reverse, the flap switch is the best to use for that. Very few jet boats have clutches as there is usually no need for normal boats,- only complicates a simple system and adds weight.

    JB
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    9 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Reviewed the several attempts made to ensure a leak free jet installation. Decided waterjets have so many potential leak paths might be a good idea to fit a bilge pump.

    Had a suitable pump salvaged from a scrap electric garden sprayer. Original idea was to activate the pump using the water alarm, but decided that was too complex at this stage. An automatic action might also obscure the leakage rate and negate desires to maintain system redundancy.
    Have now installed an alarm as one feature and can activate the pump with a second RC switch. Once trials are complete, may revert to making this pump automatic. Hope by then to have gained enough confidence in the leak correction.

    Another change was to replace the horizontal flat styrene panel, added earlier to accommodate the waterjets, with a perspex one. Can now observe the jet operation without dismantling. Once did this to another model, it does aid troubleshooting.

    Spring is approaching and the ice has largely gone, so tried the first open water sail. Objectives are to check and see if the leak treatments worked dynamically and try all jet movements in actual operation. Will also give an insight into the ballast and waterline relationship.

    The temperature was only + 3C, but thought a double layer of woad would provide enough thermal protection. The last visit to our site showed no ice, but we had forgotten the effect of wind!
    A northerly wind had blown a thick layer of ice into the dock. Fortunately, there were several inches of open water alongside the dock edge. Enough to do many of the planned maneuvers.

    Was able to establish:
    1) Base ballast requirements and that the waterjets worked. They move a lot of water and suspect the model will be overpowered. Might be better with 2 not 3S power.
    2) The reverse operation and linkage work.
    3) The cooling system works, although the bilge pump requires priming first.
    4) Leakage rate was lower than expected and the water alarm not activated. Seems the sealing efforts have achieved some success.

    Waiting now for the ice to move out so can resume with the more ambitious tests.
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    10 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    My wife noticed me trying to check for leaks using a wallpaper tray to partially immerse the hull. Our indoor test tank had been replaced with a shower recently.
    Was offered the use of a large, plastic underbed storage box. This is deep enough to allow the waterjets to be properly immersed to check for leaks. Horror! Water entered in an almost continuous bead from the joint between one jet intake and hull.

    Originally had built up a bed of silicon around each jet to hull joint. Was hoping the silicon would cure around the jets to create the seal. Suspect the retention screws had relaxed as the silicon set, slightly releasing the joint. Water then seeped through.

    Did not want to remove the jet to reseal it, so searched my local auto store for ideas. Permatex make a โ€œFlowableโ€ thin, clear, silicon sealant that is designed to run into joints by capillary action, cure and seal them. It is really intended for windscreen and similar applications. Hoped it might work here.

    A bead was run around all the hull / jet joints, inside and out, and left to cure. On retest, the major leak was solved, so now searched for any lesser ones. Water was seeping up some of the retaining bolt threads and coming out around the head washers. Treated them with thread sealant and retightened. Almost no leakage.

    Decided to retighten the nuts a final time and retest. Water now seeped in from one of the jet bodies!
    Closely examined the installation and discovered a hairline crack in this 3D printed item. The body has right angled surfaces, which mount to the stern and hull bottom.
    Think my tightening induced a bending moment, thus the crack.
    Did not consider the fasteners were overtightened, but perhaps they were. Wonder if 3D items are not as robust as more traditional components and need careful installation. Thoughts anybody.

    Removed the nozzle and worked flexible silicone sealer into and around the crack- it sealed. Relaxed the fasteners on both waterjets and retested. Overall seepage is minimal.
    Think will watch what happens and, if necessary, change the damaged jet body next winter when the project will be completed.

    Feel confident now starting the open water program once the lakes open up.
    Also noticed the jets move considerable amounts of water and that the cooling system works. Do not need an extra pump and can plumb directly overboard.
    The hull rides stern heavy and bow light, all within โ€œtrim balancingโ€ expectations.

    This experience reinforces a decision made after an earlier model had sunk on the maiden voyage. ALWAYS fit a water alarm until confident the model performs safely.
    Not a bad idea to leave it fitted permanently either.

    To be continued when open water is available.
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    10 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    Now confirmed the waterjet controls operate properly.
    Removed all components to reinstall the waterjets with sealant.

    Fitted a flexible pipe to direct cooling water from each nozzle fitting into the rear of the hull. This flexible tube can be seen at each side of the nozzles and then through the stern bulkhead and into the ESC. The coolant then continues to each respective motor.

    Have not puzzled out the outboard discharge yet. There are several discharge points available on this model, am hoping to use one per side. If the coolant flow is inadequate can incorporate a pump if needed.

    This would be the last opportunity to ensure all the supporting structure was fitted properly and to install the wiring and electrical system. Much of this can be removed if required in the future.

    Plans are to get the hull into the water this summer. The planned test runs should reveal any issues which can then be resolved before the finish is applied.
    Will then park the hull to become my next winter project.

    As this is my first venture into waterjets, am impatient to see the model on the water.
    The attached picture shows our favourite sailing location. Easy to appreciate that the next blog instalments may be some time off!
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    10 months ago by Rowen ( Captain)
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    The moment of truth!
    The first of what will prove to be several trial installations. Will not bore readers with a description of all, but jump to the final version.

    The hull mods described previously both allow the jets to operate in steering and direction; they also provide access to the operating linkages through the removable cover panel. This proved to be a godsend as can now make linkage adjustments without jet removal.

    First step was to locate the water jets onto the stern bulkhead. Because of the size of the jets experimented to see where they would fit. Due to the hull and linkage layouts the range of choices was limited. They very much fit where they fit!
    Fortunately, this is very close to where the drawings show them.

    Had been advised the jet units should be fitted to the bottom of the hull first, then into the stern bulkhead. Once located, the bulkhead can be drilled to accept the nozzle. The mounting hardware holes in the bulkhead and the hull can now be drilled.

    Drilled the holes, located the jets and bolted them in position. Continued to install more bolts in the hull and stern until the jets were firmly located.

    Fitted the steering and reversing actuating linkages next.
    Started with the steering, as shown on the attached picture. None of the rods supplied with the jets were long enough for my installation. Used scrap bicycle spokes, suitably reworked, instead.
    A used sail winch servo was considered to have enough torque to handle both steering nozzles, was installed between them.

    Used a couple of smaller servos, one to operate each reversing bucket. These were wired in parallel, so could use one Rx channel to control both. Again, used modified bicycle spokes as actuating rods.

    The bucket must remain capable of being moved by the steering control. To allow this, cut the reversing bucket spoke and inserted both ends into a flexible nylon sleeve. Movement for steering and reversing can now take place simultaneously.

    After observing a number of dry runs, concluded the linkages work with the minimum of deflection and can control both functions.
    Used the Tx โ€œEnd pointโ€ range limiting function to ensure all the servos โ€œbottomedโ€ electrically, not by mechanical interference.

    The pictures show the installation.
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    10 months ago by pressonreguardless ( Commander)
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    Looks Great. Very anxious to see her in operation๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Trev
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