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    ๐Ÿ“ Zwarte Zee Portholes
    3 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    O/K everyone is right looks better with hull portholes. Long story short after I retired from Stelco 15 years ago I cleaned out my lockers. Because I was a Maintenance Electrician, I had a lot of odds & ends to take home & I also remember I had taken these small rivets home. So, they will make great portholes. The Photo with the rivets isn't finished yet the rivets will all need to be set straight on the hull .
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    ๐Ÿ“ Zwarte Zee
    10 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    Thanks for all the suggestions on portholes. I also have two full plans. The model I have is the 30-inch Zee wooden kit which is a kit #NR8009 the other plan is a 34-inch plan # NR592 I think. I'll go to our neighborhood Fabric land store & look for some gourmets to use as portholes. Because it's a wooden kit, most of the structural parts can be made with plastic or wood. The 34-inch had two props. The plan method of build shows a drawing that shows two props.
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    ๐Ÿ“ Zwarte Zee
    11 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    Because I don't think my friend that I got this model from has the fitting kit I have decided to fill in the port holes. I did a little searching online & portholes are too expensive & I can't find plastic ones online either. So today I decided to make the Funnel from some scrap wood & that's the fun with building model boats It's not the greatest looking funnel, but I made it to look like the plans. I did a decent job on it, I think. A fitting kit would be nice but most of the fittings can be handmade. Filled in porthole holes also.
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    9 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    "Fabric Land has grommets in various sizes and finishes"
    Do they have Wallaces as well? ๐Ÿ˜‚
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    10 days ago by roycv ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi again, judging from your building comments I presume this is the wooden hull?

    Later kits had a plastic hull but the dimensions of the hulls are different. The plastic hull is a few inches longer. I think at 1:90 scale instead of 1:100 scale for the wood hull. I expect other s/s sizes are adjusted to suit but the fittings kit is the same.

    The stanchions are from flat bar and probably easier to make from scratch, maybe using the right section in brass strip? I recommend the stanchions are created on a jig. I tried soldering first and then super glue, I think the latter works best. The winch might be the most difficult item to construct.

    If going for RC then you only need a 9 gram servo for the rudder as there is not much work for it to do. This is a difficult area, I am working on a couple of fine lines to the tiller at deck level. Also hiding the tiller, so it came to a halt a little while ago while I thought about it!

    I have fitted a 6 volt Monoperm with a 1:2 reduction planet gearbox with a good size propeller. I would now use high capacity AA cells for the drive as there is not much room left inside.
    Good luck
    Roy
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    11 days ago by Ron ( Rear Admiral)
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    Garth, Fabric Land has grommets in various sizes and finishes, they work well for port holes .
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    11 days ago by Colin H ( Vice Admiral)
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    Simple portholes can be made from brass eyelets filled with clear epoxy resin.
    Cheers Colin.
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    11 days ago by dave976 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Garth
    Good find and an interesting project.
    I agree the price of portholes is high and there are few suppliers I can find. I believe you may regret removing the portholes as they do form a fairly prominent part of the model. I have in the past used small metal washers to simulate port holes and if you paint the porthole black the result looks quite acceptable. If there is a hole I have used round Perspex (Acrylic) rod pieces in the hole and a washer on the face. I bought the washers in packs of 100+ for a couple of pounds so I don't expect they will be much dearer over the pond.
    Funnel looks fine to me. Good to see some scratch building taking place.
    Will you be making a sanding jig or two to check all the windows?
    happy building
    dave976
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    11 days ago by GregHiltz ( Leading Seaman)
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    What size and style Portholes do you need?
    I have a good stock of Graupner and Robbe fittings including portholes. My prices in Canadian dollars would surprise you.- and being small pkgs. Would make shipping costs favorable.
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    ๐Ÿ“ ZWARTE ZEE
    13 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    I just can't stop myself Our club had a swap & sell meeting on Tuesday And I spotted this uncompleted tug the Zwarte Zee for $ 30 Canadian no tax. She is missing a lot of parts & may take a while to build .The first thing I thought about was all the port holes that it will need . Buy them or maybe use something else to fill the holes . The first thing I started was the stern area so put a plastic plate over the hole & I'll need to have a way to get to the rudder area.
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    10 days ago by DWBrinkman ( Warrant Officer)
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    Greetings,
    I also am a sucker for picking up boats that need a lot of TLC.
    I jokingly refer to my shop as "the land of misfit toys".
    I'll be following you hoping to pick up ideas, and maybe I'll have some stuff you will need as well.
    Great looking boat, I'm excited to see the progress!
    Dave B
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    12 days ago by GARTH ( Lieutenant)
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    I just have to send a message to the seller to see if he has the fitting kit even if it's not complete
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    13 days ago by roycv ( Warrant Officer)
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    You really need the fittings kit so hope that was included as so much is needed to complete the model.
    Roy
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    13 days ago by GregHiltz ( Leading Seaman)
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    Great find!
    We all will help you FInish off the tug.
    I am in Saint John NB, and have most everything you will need to finish and gear up your tug.
    Join my FB page Greg's Model Boatyard, and see all I have and do.
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