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    Steampunk Pike.
    by Martin555 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ( Lieutenant)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Steampunk Pike.
    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Guys,
    This log will be more like a slideshow rather than a proper build log as I have no wish to bore you guys to death with all the details.

    If you have any questions then please contact me and I will gladly answer them.

    The making of the Pike is a lot easier than you may think but please remember that this is the first prototype and can easily be modified to make what ever you want to make.
    The photos will tell you most of the story.
    I was not to fussy about the first skin layer as it is only to give me something to glue to.
    The rivets were cut down dressmaking pins as surggested to me from members on this site.
    The eyes were the lenses from some old swimming goggles.

    I look forward to answering any questions that you may have.

    Martin.

    swimming goggles
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    22 days ago by marky ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Martin ,great build,how long is the mighty pike?and is the plating the usual ice-cream tubs?
    Cheers mark
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    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Mark.
    The dimensions for the Pike are :-
    Length 40"
    Width 11"
    Height 14"
    And you were nearly right with the ice cream tub's
    I upgraded slightly I used food containers.


    Martin.
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    22 days ago by marky ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Good balanced diet ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿจ
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    Excellent idea and quite a bit of work by the looks of it (despite your self effacing not too hard bit el o el ) Assuming std sub power internals or nuclear?
    John
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thinks John!!!
    No room for the reactor in my U25 ... BUT๐Ÿ˜‰
    Some time ago, at the BMW museum shop here in Munich, I bought a kit for an RC (Infrared) car powered by a mini hydrogen fuel cell! Maybe I could use that cell for a self contained sub drive system?? Just like the modern non-airbreathing subs such as the German 212 class.
    Thinks ...... ๐Ÿ™„

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    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    All I can say at the moment is "I have got a plan".

    Martin.
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    So cunning you could call it a weasel ??
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Steampunk Pike.
    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Splendiferous Martin๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Did you pre-form the scales at all (on baked bean tins or the like), or did you just rely on the glue?
    Like the tower grating. Will do that with my U25.
    KUTGW! Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Weas'l know next time John.
    Couldn't be a stoat ...
    cos they're stoatally different ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜‚
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    Only in Mรผnchen ! better get the sub nets back up!
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    Giraffe to say that Doug?
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Couldn't resist it John, just 'adder do it๐Ÿ˜‰
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    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Doug,
    I did preform them.
    I placed it on a piece of foam and used a length of doweling like a rolling pin until it was a close fit.

    Martin.

    rolling pin
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    Guess I'll just have to grin and bear it Doug
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    22 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Come on guys stop MONKEYING around LOL!

    Martin.
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Deer me! Another 'owler John๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sorry Martin๐Ÿ˜”
    I'll clam up๐Ÿ˜‰
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    22 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    We could do this all night! I'm off to the horizontal to count SHEEP now so don't think me SHELLFISH ( I could say something about cats but I'd better not. So tata, guten nachmittag etc and that will SEAL my effort for today, hope everyone's seen a RAY of hope with their builds (especially if it's HMS HORNET) TTFN
    John
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Rats!!
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    22 days ago by marky ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    You've not heard giraffe ๐Ÿฆ’ of it
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Stop crowing Marky ๐Ÿ˜‰
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    22 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    BTW JB, I've still got USS Wasp somewhere in my stash!
    G'night all ๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ’ค๐Ÿ’ค

    USS Wasp
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    21 days ago by Colin H ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Well we all like to ape the best.
    Cheers Colin.
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    21 days ago by Colin H ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Super set of pics, you are a real master of the art of modelling, be it a simple boat or this crazy ๐Ÿคฃ fish. You obviously have patience in abundance and a reactive brain. ๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers Colin
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    21 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Martin.
    whats the basic material - styrene or ABS ? Do you cut it all by hand ? Only found out when trying to cut ABS on the laser that it emits Hydrogen Cyanide gas when burnt !!!!!!!!. Quite glad we have a good extractor on the machine.
    Will have to use the scroll saw - not so good on straight lines...........

    machine
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    21 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Whats next Martin - the Disney Nautilus please- always wanted to build one - never figured out how !
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    21 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Colin,
    Thank you for the very nice comment.
    But I don't consider myself as a master, I just like tinkering around.

    Martin.
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    21 days ago by Colin H ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Tinker tailor should be tinker sailor.
    Keep on tinkering.
    Cheers Colin. ๐Ÿ‘
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    21 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Red,
    I am not sure what the plastic is but I think it is ABS.
    The thing is I use whatever plastic I can lay my hands on, mostly food containers.

    The majority of my models are made from waste materials as I do not have much of a budget to be able to get the good stuff.

    Martin.

    models
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    21 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Red,
    I have something in mind but I need to try a few experiments first.

    What I tend to do is look at photos and pictures and then think about how I could achieve the end result.

    I would spend a long time thinking about something and then suddenly I get the answer then I scribble that down and then you think or I could do it that way instead.
    Eventually you figure it out. But then when you try it out you find that it did not work quite as you hoped it would so back to thinking again,

    Patience and persistence will find the answer.

    Martin.
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    21 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Tinker, (tailor, soldier,) sailor!"
    Martin's Pike sure looks 'tailor made' to me๐Ÿ‘
    A breath of fresh air ๐Ÿ‘
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    21 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Sorry I forgot to mention I cut it with a scalpel.

    Martin.
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    21 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Martin, if they were food containers I very much doubt that they were ABS!
    Cos the three constituents are; Acrylonitrile (possibly carcinogenic to humans), Butadiene (carcinogenic to humans), and Styrene (suspected of being carcinogenic to humans.๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    Most food containers appear to be made of one of these-
    high / low density polyethylene (HDPE/LDPE), polyethylene terephthalate (PET/PETE), polypropylene (PP). PET/PETE you may also recognise from 3D printing.
    Depends a lot on which food is going into them. Main thing is that they won't react with the food and/or leach their binders etc into the food ๐Ÿ˜ Especially if they get hot; e.g. in the microwave oven!

    Bon appรฉtit Gents ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    21 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi All,
    Martin piqued my curiosity (always dangerous๐Ÿ˜‰) soooo-
    Digging around a bit I found this explanation of the number codes (Recycling Codes) on the bottom of plastic food containers amongst other things. See attached pic. Might help with finding the best glue for the different types.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    PS I have no idea what use a 'crushed bottle' might be! ๐Ÿค”

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    21 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    Wonder if Colins' dragon's been giving you ideas?
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    21 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Love the speed controller LOL!

    Martin.
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    21 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    I'm hungry, can I get a side order of asbestos to go?
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    21 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Red,
    "Whats next Martin - the Disney Nautilus please- always wanted to build one - never figured out how !"

    You could start here perhaps?
    http://www.disneysub.com/
    "Must Have" for the model builder considering scratch building the Nautilus.
    Included are 200 original studio Nautilus Plans and Blueprints in high resolution.
    Our PDF Articles contain "How To" guides on all types of Nautilus model building."

    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
    http://www.disneysub.com/
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    19 days ago by MouldBuilder ( Warrant Officer)
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    Fantastic Martin.
    Looking forward to the new idea.๐Ÿ˜Š
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    19 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    You could start here perhaps?
    http://www.disneysub.com/
    "Must Have" for the model builder considering scratch building the Nautilus.
    Included are 200 original studio Nautilus Plans and Blueprints in high resolution.
    Our PDF Articles contain "How To" guides on all types of Nautilus model building."

    Thanks Doug - but no thanks - got to be one of the big rip offs - they want $85 USD or about +- R 1300 for a cd (about 50% of a months groceries) - most of which you can find on the internet anyway. Have about 3 sets of plans - could never figure out what material to make the Nautilus from - plastic does not like the "African" sun much .... Wood seems an odd material to make a submarine from - so where do you go from there...........
    http://www.disneysub.com/
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    18 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    As you wish Red.
    But if you're serious about building Memo's Nautilus you ain't gonna find more info and advice than on that disc. And that straight from the Disney horse's mouth. Confusing is that sometimes they mention DVD and sometimes CD!? Happy trawling the Net, I did too, but didn't find a more comprehensive collection of info and data than that. Lots of vague plans, but then what?

    Material: "Wood seems an odd material to make a submarine from - so where do you go from there..........." My U25 hull is made from four 3cm planks of wood. Lots of carving and checking with templates and swearing. Then wood sealer, more sanding ๐Ÿค” primer, three coats of resin based RAL 7035 paint. Brush quick or your brush will stick to the hull๐Ÿ˜ญ
    Later spraying upper and lower hull with appropriate Revell enamels, light grey and mid/dark grey respectively. No ingress of water or other damage incurred over the last 25 or so years.๐Ÿ˜Š Advantage is better thermal insulation from the cold water surrounding the hull than with thin plastic.

    "plastic does not like the "African" sun much"!
    For several days now we have had temperatures of 35 to 40ยฐC, new record for Germany in June was set yesterdayโ˜€๏ธ. Expected to climb further to a new record peak on Sunday!๐Ÿ˜Ž
    I note that today, and the foreseeable/forecast-able future Cape has temperatures of around 13 to 15ยฐC.
    I remember being in Jo'burg/Pretoria some years ago towards the end of November. We went to the Zoo with temperature around 35ยฐC and while refreshing ourselves sitting outside the cafe there were astounded to to witness the arrival of a class of young school kids and a Father Christmas wearing the full red arctic outfit with hat and beard. I started melting just looking at him ๐Ÿ˜‚ During my time in Cape Town and Simonstown, also shortly before Christmas, the temperatures were a very comfortable 25 to 30ยฐC. Where are you?
    Of course various plastics deform at various temperatures, so 'Taste and Try Before You Buy'.
    (With thanks to Savoy Brown - see attached Utube clip๐Ÿ˜‰)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyzrOM5RR4
    Check the specs of the type of plastic you are considering buying for your build. Some are specially developed I believe for minimal deformation at higher temperatures.

    BTW: Joburgsailor seems to do all right with the materials he uses under the African sun๐Ÿ‘
    See his blogs and post on this site about his magnificent MEKO frigate. (A ship class I also worked on for other countries!)
    Whatever floats your boat Red ๐Ÿ˜Š have fun doing it, that's what it's all really about!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    BTW; wish we had your grocery prices here๐Ÿค” 85US$ = about โ‚ฌ75. Which is around 20 or 15% of my monthly grocery bill of around โ‚ฌ400-500!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyzrOM5RR4
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    Taste And Try, Before You Buy - Savoy Brown
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    DVD
    templates
    wood sealer
    brush
    RAL 7035
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    18 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    It's all that boutique Sauerkraut and Schnitzengruben you're spending your money on Doug!
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    18 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Red,
    Take a look at the (nautilus drydocks)run by Bob Martin. (On utube and on his website)
    He might have what you are looking for.

    Martin.
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    18 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    But fifteen is my limit on Schnitzengruben! ๐Ÿ˜‹

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f20413e3-6a3a-4347-8015-ec5b8f4...
    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f20413e3-6a3a-4347-8015-ec5b8f4f3fb4
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    18 days ago by Colin H ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Stunning fish, just a stupid question, does it swim using tail and fins.
    Cheers Colin.
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    17 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Colin,
    Unfortunately no, this will be motor driven.
    The tail is just a rudder, and the fins are dive planes.
    I would imagine that to get something like this to swim would be quite technical.
    But it is something worth thinking about.

    Martin.
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    17 days ago by jbkiwi ( Midshipman)
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    The days when comedy was suggestive but not a swear word in 'sight' (or working its'way, slidey slidey down the eardroves into the internal workage of the mindey most - think it was playing with radar in his case !?) Deep Joy!
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    17 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Splendimold! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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    17 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Doug,
    BTW; wish we had your grocery prices here๐Ÿค” 85US$ = about โ‚ฌ75. Which is around 20 or 15% of my monthly grocery bill of around โ‚ฌ400-500

    Worked out with my sister in UK we now pay about the same for food items as she does there- and prices seem to go up every month .Everything imported we pay at least double - cars are a ridiculous price - even locally produced ones have 60% tax added - Imports 100% - fuel exhorbitant as public transport is almost non existent . Miss the bus pass I had in UK ....... .Old age pension here is R1.8k - would not even meet the food bill! However MP's get R90k plus expenses......

    ones
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    17 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Red,
    Take a look at the (nautilus drydocks)run by Bob Martin. (On utube and on his website)
    He might have what you are looking for.
    Hi Martin,
    great site , nice model but at $ 1371 would have to pass - works out to R20k which is about the average monthly income which you need to live on as a pensioner. Perhaps I could persuade him to part with a hull only - suspect it would still be out of reach.
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    17 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Red,
    Maybe he might have some plans that he could supply you with.

    Martin.
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    17 days ago by redpmg ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Martin,
    thanks but already have about 4 plans already and an offer of a highly accurate one - which I suspect is a duplicate.

    Wanted to make one in two halves - so that you have the required hollow inside - and dynamic diving type - not static .

    Would have to start with the 1/2 bulkheads - then "plank" and hollow out . Wood is easy as you can cut through and spot glue back - strong enough to hold its shape and easily removable. Not sure if you could do that with plastic?

    Thought about using the type VII U boat as a base - but it would end up too heavy - be permanently submerged .....
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    16 days ago by Martin555 ( Lieutenant)
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    Hi Red,
    It would be possible to make it using plastic card.
    Maybe a couple of layers for strengthening particular areas.
    I think that you could also make it in one piece and then cut it in half along the water line, then add strengthening pieces.
    Similar to the Pike build.

    Martin.
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