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    Italeri Vosper 72’6” MTB 77
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    πŸ“ Ready to be water tested
    25 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Bathtub is too small to properly give this a water test. Once our pond is open for use, it will be water tested.
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    πŸ“ Do Not Trust the porthole material in the kit.
    26 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    The kit came with funny windows that were self sticking which were for the port holes along both sides of the hull. I did not trust the self stick so added C.A. which I figured was good.

    After some spray paint got on a window, I was rubbing it to remove the paint. POP out came the port hole window! I checked the others and they also popped out with just a slight bit of pressure.

    Glad this happened on the workbench and not out on the water!

    In my resources, I keep clear packaging materials which work well for clear parts. Cut into strips, these were glued and clamped to the inside of the hull using C.A.: Watch those fumes!! I opened the window and turned on my exhaust fan, then went out closing the door behind me.
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    πŸ“ Rigging and aerials?
    27 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    What do most of you do to keep from damaging your rigging and radio aerials during transportation and when working around the model?

    Tonight, I remembered some stretchy β€œthread”, it is white, but it comes in black too. However, fabric stores are closed for now, so the white will do the job for now. Made up wire hooks too, then with the stretchy material, the radio aerials would maintain their tension, but allow me to easily remove them and the mast when transporting and servicing the model.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    27 days ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Ron,
    I have used black jewellery elastic in the past. It comes in various diameters and can be bought on ebay. It isn't terribly realistic but can be bent over and stuck with cyano and does ping back if inadvertantly touched. I have also covered the end loop with heatshrink, but you can't heat it! It seems to be quite durable, I have had some on one model for over twenty years.
    Ian
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    26 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Is the boat you were referring to in your comment? Do I see black shrink here?
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    26 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Ron here...I plan to replace the bow plastic post with brass as was done to the aft post.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    26 days ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Yes, that's right. I'd forgotten is was on that boat too. I have just received some 0.45mm stainless steel rope to do the standing rigging on my steam yacht. I have been experimenting with making a loop and sticking with cyano and then covering with heat shrink which you can shrink in this case, of course. It saves having an ugly, out of scale crimp in the wire. Again received courtesy of ebay. I suppose all this depends on what sacle you are working to - I tend to use fairly large scales- 1:32 up to 1:16.
    PS Both Dunlin and Veleta in my boat harbour have black elastic rigging, it looks OK from a distance.
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    26 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I may change the white for black or try painting it? You are right at a distance it looks nice.

    My biggest concern is when handling or reaching to get something, is the possibility of catching a wire and snapping the plastic mast. I may do that up in brass too, but for now, best to just make it removable along with the wires.
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    26 days ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Ron,
    I added a better photo of the rigging on Veleta. It is a compromise but I started using it for that very reason, catching it with a sleeve and wiping out the masts at the pondside. I try and make my rigging so that it all comes off with the superstructure to save fiddly unhooking with cold wet fingers but it can't always be achieved. I hope you find a solution that suits your purpose. As you say, I think brass masts and flagstaffs help. On Minnow I want to try and put a brass rebar in the wooden flagstaff- not sure how yet! Probably sandwich the brass in between two slices of mahogany and turn the wood.

    Ian
    PS added one of Dunlin's rigging too.
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    26 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Did you carve your crew? Look nice!
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    26 days ago by Rookysailor ( Commander)
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    The 'Stretchy thread' you mention Ron, is called
    Shirring Elastic, I've heard it called many other things like, shearingπŸ‘Ž you will certainly get it from haberdasheries or craft shops, when once again they open.
    It comes in a few colours, black,white brown, grey,
    mainly useful colours for us modelers.😊

    Cheers, Pete
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    26 days ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Actually Pete, this isn't shirring elastic. I have used that in the past and it tends to go all floppy after a while and it is much thinner. It may suit Ron's purpose as his model seems to be a much smaller scale. This is jewellery elastic, is solid and I have it in sizes of .5mm and 1mm diameters.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Rigging and aerials?
    26 days ago by ianed57 ( Midshipman)
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    Hi Ron, obtaining crew figures is always a bit of a problem. At 1:16, garden railway figures are reasonably close. We used to have a company doing resin figures, George Turner, but those are hard to get now. There is a German firm called Bruder who do some 1:16 farm figures and I have a couple to work up with Milliput. I have made Milliput figures on a wire armature but they tend to frighten the children!πŸ™‚
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    πŸ“ RC gear installed
    27 days ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    After consultation with donnieboy the placement of the receiver was to keep it away from the motor so it was placed in the helm. It may stay as seen in the photos or mounted to the roof with Velcro. Don Sutton, Metro Marine Model Club, Toronto, is a valued friend who assists me with many aspects of my builds. He is a generous man with his knowledge and stock of supplies.

    A switch was added to the floor of the wheelhouse and to keep from snapping off the mast, an aluminum tube was glued to the side of the wheelhouse allowing the mast and rigging be removed in transportation, or working around the boat. Inserting the battery under the deck is easy and by adding a Velcro strip, hidden inside the large vent, securing the battery.

    A small magnet secures the aft hatch above the rudder post.
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    πŸ“ Interior is Revealed
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I am enjoying the work of Longshanks as found on the Britmodeller.com website. He is using the Italeri 1/35 Vosper 72' 6" MTB to create the interior of the boat beginning with the Wardroom & Radio shack located below the Helm.

    Osprey Publishing

    British Motor Torpedo Boat 1939–45
    New Vanguard 74

    Author: Angus Konstam
    Illustrator: Tony Bryan
    Short code: NVG 74
    Publication Date: 20 Jun 2003
    ISBN: 9781841765006
    Format: Paperback
    Number of Pages: 48
    The cover is an Illustration of the MTB

    When I asked in an earlier post about how men came up on deck from down below? This illustration reveals the answer.

    The kit is wrong! Beside the ladder which drops down into the helm, there is a work table. That table surface is too long. It is half the length as it should be because there is another ladder leading below to the Officer's ward room and to the radio room.

    You can view this by seeing this link, and following all six pages, just keep scrolling along till the end. Absolutely Amazing!

    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2350265...
    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235026591-vosper-72-6-mtb-working-on-the-wardroom-radio-shack/
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    As you say "Absolutely Amazing!"

    Longshanks is doing a really fantastic job.

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    His entries stop after page 6, not sure if he finished it?
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    πŸ“ Wheelhouse and Helm Arrangements
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    https://servimg.com/view/16276837/2702#.WdnR8KF-wWA.pinteres...
    https://servimg.com/view/16276837/2702#.WdnR8KF-wWA.pinterest
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    πŸ“ Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Added some imaginary items to the helm. Coffee mug, map n compass, wall cabinet, maps in the side compartment, additional gauges, and a picture of the yacht back home.

    Research noted that the floor had rubber mats in the wheelhouse and external helm. Also rubber was on the top of the cabinets as these were seats as well used for standing up on.

    The copper wire will be painted, it leads from the radio to the antenna. The speaking tube will also be painted once glue has dried.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Rear Admiral)
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    Nice job!
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    1 month ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent stuff Ron.πŸ‘
    You've caught the atmosphere well there.
    Do you have the Italeri crew as well to bring her to life?
    Cheers, Doug 😎
    https://www.italeri.com/en/product/2401/6/31
    https://www.italeri.com/en/product/2401/6/31
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Admiral)
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    Looking good Ron.
    The extra little details make all the difference.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    No I do not have the crew, I hope they are still available or ones similar.

    I also found a drawing which identifies the various items in the helm and wheelhouse. On the starboard side near the radio, is a fold down seat mounted on the wall. I plan to add that too.

    If you are familiar with these boats, would you tell me where the officers quarters are? Also, how they would respond quickly to the helm from their quarters?

    Those hatch covers look rather small for going in and out of when wearing bulky foul weather clothing.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    Leeds Model Shop still have two crew sets😊
    http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pro...
    Scalemates in Belgium also has some
    https://www.scalemates.com/kits/italeri-5616-vosper-mtb-crew...
    Or here in the US, shipping cost seems highπŸ€”
    https://www.amazon.com/Italeri-510005616-Vosper-Crew-Figures...

    Re Officers Quarters;
    Don't think they had any. These boats were only built for 'day trips', not long cruises!
    Cap'n would probably be in the wheelhouse all the time?
    Cheers, Doug 😎
    http://www.modelshopleeds.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=19089
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Italeri only includes 7 in their crew kit, and none in a helm position, or sitting, only one in foul weather gear. The boat has a crew of 10.
    The ptboat crew kit has 10 figures. But all with steel helmets. Same price too.

    The photos are from another persons work. He bought several kits to get the crew.

    How does one make foul weather gear on their figures?

    Ron
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    I have altered clothing on some figures using layers of toilet tissue and glue.

    Martin555.
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    πŸ’¬ Re: Vosper interior of helm
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Could you send me some ideas? Show me what you have done?
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ron,
    Unfortunately i no longer have the models and did not take any photos.
    I did do a little piece on modifying plastic figures on the site.

    (Forum Topic, modified figures.)

    Martin555.
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    πŸ“ Vosper MTB 77’
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Found interior pictures of wheelhouse and helm. They really have helped. Also added coaming so the wheelhouse is removable.
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    πŸ“ Italeri Vosper 72’6” MTB 77
    1 month ago by Ron ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Donnieboy gave me this kits several years ago to build with the grandsons. But, the boys are not able to come over to help grandpa. Plus, they really are not interested!

    Plan to make the conversion to a single brushed motor using an NiHM. Looking over the deck there needed to be a hatch opening with the least disturbance to the design. I chose the area as seen in the photos. Built a coaming, and a hatch cover which once the torpedoes are in place is hidden. I do not believe the raised deck will be very obvious.
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