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    39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind', built 1930s and 40s
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats Fairwind - faucets/taps, cooker, floor
    2 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Maid Rosalind, the Windboats Norfolk Broards/Thames cruiser. Made faucets/taps from brass tubing and rod. Baked a three sided rough cube of clay for the cooker, cutting it into shape with a razor saw, strengthening it with wood and glue from behind and adding details to the front. Cut the sheet of cherry veneer for the floor into 3/8" strips. Pre-stained the strips to avoid glue marks in the wood and to stop the very thin veneer from curling when the wood glue was applied (too intricate to use contact cement). Painted the bulkheads, floors etc with a coat of lacquer. I feel super shiny interiors look unrealistic so resisted the temptation of a second coat!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - faucets/taps, cooker, floor
    2 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Why avoid it Ed?
    I think it looks great as it is. Cutesville ๐Ÿ˜€
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    Seems almost poetic, or do I mean procreative?, making a cooker by baking in a cooker!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - faucets/taps, cooker, floor
    2 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thank you Doug. I see what you mean about the cooker. Wish I'd painted the handle a metal light grey instead of black, which would have helped avoid the smiling face! Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - faucets/taps, cooker, floor
    2 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Brilliant work Ed ๐Ÿ‘
    The cooker looks very happy in his new home, wide eyed and a happy grin ๐Ÿ˜€ I've never seen so much detailed interior work in such a model before.
    (Possible exception; the 'ladies loo' in one of JB's boats!)
    Otherwise only in 'cut-a-ways', like Martin's U-Boat. Hat off Sir.
    She's gonna look glorious when all fettled up varnished and polished.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats Fairwind - lighting, paneling, electronics, sinks
    9 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Installed lighting. Used 5mm square Mega Chips from Evan Designs. By far the best LEDs Iโ€™ve used yet. The resistor is already incorporated so after specifying the voltage before ordering, they can be connected directly to the power source. Unlike past purchases also advertised as warm light, these ones really are! Because there are no solid bulkheads below the waterline, it was easy to run wires from the battery to any part of the boat, coming up at any bulkhead. Added the ESC, a terminal strip and a box for the battery. The battery snaps in, but is easily removed by depressing the brass clip. Once the topsides and decks are added, the access to this area will be more restricted, so I made sure everything can be easily removed. The ESC is held by velcro. The whole terminal strip is bolted rather than screwed and thereโ€™s enough slack in wiring, so the whole thing can be lifted out and worked on more easily. The washbasins and galley sink were made from epoxy filler pushed over clay molds. The outside of the relatively soft filler was then strengthened with a cover of clear epoxy. I could have used a 3D printer or bought something ready made and this most certainly would have been more realistic, but for me the challenge is to figure out how to make it from scratch! Now I have to think how I could make the cooker (with oven) and two heads! Have finished most of the (endless) paneling. I stained the wood before cutting, dipping the two foot lengths in a home made tube/stand. Pre-staining avoided glue marks appearing through final staining. I used Curly Maple veneer for the head and galley counter tops and will use Cherry veneer for the floor, neither of which Rosalind had, but I wanted to brighten the interior.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - lighting, paneling, electronics, sinks
    9 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You have been very busy there Ed.
    Nice work, keep it up.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - lighting, paneling, electronics, sinks
    9 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Thanks for the link Ed๐Ÿ‘ I'll be looking them up.
    "I have a nasty habit of changing things!"
    That goes with the territory Ed, we ALL do that ๐Ÿ˜
    The lacquer shouldn't be a problem if you need to change something. Just check all connections for continuity with a multimeter set on Ohms with a beeper for continuity.
    Any problems just scrape off the lacquer with a scalpel blade. When all is OK and tightened down give it another quick blast of lacquer to seal it. WD40 is good but it stinks more and creeps around inside models ๐Ÿค”
    Bon chance mon ami๐Ÿ‘
    Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - lighting, paneling, electronics, sinks
    9 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Doug, the LEDs came from https://evandesigns.com/collections/hobby-leds . I had the Mega 5mm square chips. Just great.
    Heads will be chemical! They didn't have holding tanks on the Thames back then. Trying to envisage what the chemical head would look like in the 1940s. Probably not much more than a cylinder with a seat on top!
    I've used these terminal blocks on other models, but the idea of coating them with lacquer could be good. If I did, would this complicate making alterations? I have a nasty habit of changing things! I've sprayed WD40 on the ones I've used in the real boats so I know this works! Thanks. Ed
    https://evandesigns.com/collections/hobby-leds
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - lighting, paneling, electronics, sinks
    9 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Egad Sah, thou art truly a glutton for panelling!๐Ÿ˜‰
    Some excellent 'how to' tips here as well ๐Ÿ‘ Everything including the kitchen sink!!
    Will help me to finish off the cockpit of my Sea Scout properly (at long long last ๐Ÿ™„) without the sink though.
    I like the sound of those Mega Chip LEDs, can you please post the link for where you bought 'em.

    I guess you'll also be fitting an RC switch for the pump / cistern for the head flushing ๐Ÿ˜
    or are they chemical heads?๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ™Š
    Nice tidy electrics installation as well, appeals to my engineering instinct ๐Ÿ‘
    One word to the wise; I've had those screw terminal connectors corrode after a while in a damp atmosphere.
    A quick blast of WD40 or better a conformal coating type lacquer, as used on military radio gear etc, solves the problem.
    The lacquer also helps prevent/delay the screws working loose over time.
    So far so very good, watching with interest and looking forward to the sea trials.
    Any thoughts on the crew yet?
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    22 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Building up from the waterline. The bulkheads, cabins, bunks, galley and heads are roughed in. Each bulkhead and the floors will be paneled with 1/16โ€ x 3/8โ€ strips. I have 224 feet in 2โ€™ lengths ordered. Thatโ€™s a heck of a lot of tiny paneling! Painted the engine room. The hull has no solid bulkheads below the waterline, so could also paint most of the inside of the hull, fore and aft. The transom, though straight in plan view, curves backwards as was the fashion, so used 1/16" sheet laminated. The hull sides do the same, but these will be planked, so no problem there. I'm enjoying researching this old cruiser and reliving memories!
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    9 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Doug. In the past I have always glassed and painted a planked hull (and regular hulls) as you suggest, but the problem I have is these boats were almost always finished with a varnished hull and topsides (as was Rosalind), so I can't cover the glass with paint. I guess I will try to get the planks fitting as tightly as possible and then assess the situation! Thanks, Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    9 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Ed,
    Mike and I were referring to the use of auto lacquer on the deck planking only, as a final finish after they have been sealed.
    For sealing / strengthening the hull itself, especially if planked or even skinned with thin ply, I use Deluxe Materials EzeKote with glass-fibre tissue on the inside and about 3 coats of EzeKote resin on the outside, after filling any gaps or depressions with an auto polyester filler, such as P38 or I believe 'Bondo' in your neck of the woods. That gives strength and a good base for the primer and final colour coats.
    Since you have so much interior decoration (not a problem I normally have!) I think the lacquer would be a quick and simple solution.
    For the hull itself I would use the EzeKote resin. It is a water based one part resin, i.e. no hardener needed, which sets in about 20 to 30 minutes and doesn't stink out the house ๐Ÿ˜‰
    For a working boat she sure has a lot of nice panelling inside!
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    9 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Doug, I'm going with lacquer inside and out but my big concern is using it on a planked hull which has to be watertight. I would normally fiberglass at least the inside as no matter how tight you get the planks there's always some leak, but that's not even possible as the planks are visible on the inside. This is a working river boat and doesn't have to have a mirror shine anywhere. What I particularly like about lacquer is the ability to add coats with little fuss, which will be helpful as I plan to paint the interior in overlapping sections at different times. Thanks for the support. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    9 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Finishing of the planking I would suggest automotive clear lacquer"
    I heartily agree Mike๐Ÿ‘
    That's what I used on the decks of my Sea Scout restoration.
    Gives a real nice hard shine.
    I flatted off between coats with 3000 wet & dry with a drop of liquid soap.
    Final coat was then polished with auto fine cutting paste + anti hologram polish!!
    Details of materials used, and how, are in my Build Blog; Sea Scout 'Jessica' restoration.
    https://model-boats.com/blogs/28209
    Also some ideas for the crew there ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    22 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Michael. If I can get away with lacquer, that would be my first choice. My problem is that unlike deck planking glued over solid wood, this is the hull topsides which will get wet and don't have a solid wood backing. However careful, it's hard to get every board fitting snuggly, especially when there's quite a curve involved. All but one of other hulls I've planked have been static models and the working one was painted so I glassed it. An additional problem is that the inside of the hull planking will be visible in parts, so I can't glass the inside. Depending on how well I think the planking turned out, I'm tempted to go the lacquer route!
    Regarding the battery, there is more room than is evident in the photographs. A 5 1/2" LiPo fits and the 3S LiPos I use are smaller than that. It will go to one side of the motor, partially tucked under the bulkhead aft of the cockpit. There is actually also room above the opening as the cockpit floor will be level with the companionway openings. Ed
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats Fairwind - roughing out interior
    22 days ago by mturpin013 ( Commodore)
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    Finishing of the planking I would suggest automotive clear lacquer I used it on my Crash Tender and on the Freeman 22 broads cruiser I gave the decks 5 coats with rubbing down in between. The key to a flat surface is to make sure its flat before you start lacquering.
    If it last on cars I'm sure it will last on our occasionally used boats by comparison.
    PS where do the batteries fit?
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats Fairwind - finishing the chine
    25 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Building the bow was the test for this construction method and it was easier than I expected. I had started with a base of 1/8โ€ ply, shaped as the the cross section at the waterline. For most of its length, the chine was almost exactly the same profile as the waterline, so it was easy to add hull below this, but at the bow the chine of course came above the waterline. I added balsa block in the area, cutting it first vertically, getting the chine shape from the ply template, then horizontally following the line of the chine. It was then simple to cut the hull shape using the new chine and the keel/stem shape. These boats were almost always varnished above the waterline (as was Maid Rosalind), so I will have to plank the topsides, but below sheโ€™s painted with red antifouling, coming several inches above the waterline, so I could get away with using a conventional sheet of Bass Wood, which I bent into shape overnight with a wet paper towel and clamps. The area of the chine above this antifouling is so small I didn't bother switching to planking. So far this construction method has worked well and has been simple to do. In one old Fairwind photograph, it looks like the planking follows the chine rather than the sheer, curving up significantly all the way up the stem at the bow. Any thoughts on this? Also, the bottom will be fiberglassed in the normal way, but I am undecided on the very visible varnished topside planking. A thin layer of epoxy would probably be best, but itโ€™s not always easy to get it perfectly flat, and any dips and imperfection will show in the shiny varnish. Planking will be 1/8 x 1/4 Bass.
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats Fairwind - Installing shaft and power unit
    29 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    I always try to install the shaft and power unit at the earliest point, as soon as the keel is done. It's so much easier to get everything lined up before planking the hull etc.. Once everything is perfect, I remove the motor from the mount and the shaft from its sleeve to avoid dust and damage. It's easy to reinstall everything, using the same screws, at a later date. Unlike my past boats with powerful Outrunner motors, this boat is not fast, so to produce a realistic speed, I used a Mack 1885 12v motor geared down 2.5 to 1, driving a three blade 1.48" x 1.33" Octura prop on a small 1/8" shaft.
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    ๐Ÿ“ 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind', built 1930s and 40s
    1 month ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Started another model boat project, but the grandkids will be disappointed as it doesnโ€™t plane! Itโ€™s a 39โ€ model of the 39โ€™ Fairwind, built in the late 1930s, early 1940s by Windboats of Wroxham, on the Norfolk Broards, where speed is limited to 3-6 mph. Fellow modeler, Ron Wem knows a lot about these boats and got me interested. His advice and photographs have been really helpful, but there is also a surprising amount of information online. Have enjoyed researching it. My connection with the boat? I chartered one (Maid Rosalind) for a week on the Thames with school mates, when I graduated from High School aged 18 in 1966. How I persuaded them to rent it to us (3 guys, 4 girls) I will never know, but we had a blast! I had to travel up to London to visit the main base the day before (and last day of school) to prove I could handle a boat this size. Rosalind was probably 25 years old when we chartered her and she definitely wasn't modern but I remember lovely old fashioned paneling etc. She was perfect for us. We did a one way charter from Wallingford (just below Oxford) all the way to the outskirts of London. Would love to hear from anyone with an interest in these boats.
    I always try to use a different construction method and this time, because the chine had the same profile as the waterline for most of the boatโ€™s length, I used the chine lines to make a โ€˜floorโ€™ exactly at the waterline. Everything will be built up from that.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    30 days ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Michael. No, this is scratch built. The only kit I have built in many, many years is the RAF tender from my childhood that I worked on last year, and your blog was an inspiration and an enormous help with this. I enjoy the planning, research and figuring out the best method to use. With this project, Ron Wem got me interested in these classic river cruisers. I drew the plans from many photographs and from a photograph of a plan Ron had used for a similar boat. He has been a huge help. The construction method seems to be working well, as in this case, the chine and waterline have virtually the same plan except for the bow, which is only different for the first few inches. By cutting out a flat base at the waterline, in the shape of the chine lines, it was simple to fill in the hull sides above and below the chine, using the profile. I'm working on the bow now and will post when I get it done, but so far this method has worked fine. EdH
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    30 days ago by mturpin013 ( Commodore)
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    Is this a currently available kit or plan?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    1 month ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Ianh, that makes sense! They wouldnโ€™t be so great in a sea! Edh
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi EdH,
    You are off to a great start.
    I will be following this build.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    1 month ago by Ianh ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi EdH,
    They were used on the River Torridge, they weren't allowed out past the the Bideford Longbrige if my senile memory re calls. It's 60 Years ago๐Ÿšค๐Ÿšค
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
    1 month ago by EdH ( Warrant Officer)
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    Ianh, could have been. They have a similar profile. I grew up on Tresco, Isles of Scilly and Iโ€™m not sure Iโ€™d want to take Maid Rosalind into any of those Cornish harbours! She was perfect for the Thames though!
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    1 month ago by Ianh ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    I am pretty sure that this design gave Les Rowell the idea for Sea Queen and see Commander. Used to see boats like this a Bideford in Cornwall
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 39' Windboats of Wroxham 'Fairwind 39', built 1930s and 40s
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    'Fairwind' - Lovely traditional Broads boat, I liked those varnished mahogany topsides. Should make a good model, a reminder of what cruisers used to be.

    cheers, Nerys
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