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Upnor, Thames Sailing Barge

Listed by Nerys ·

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About this boat

I have had a lifetime love affair with Thames Sailing Barges and this is my first model of one. She is based on a 30" hull from 'Mastman' (Dave Watts}. Launched for the first time today at Cold Knap lake, Barry, South Wales she did everything asked of her.

Comments

  1. RNinMunichBronze
    Fleet Admiral
    Immaculate job, a truly beautiful creation Nerys, Respect👍👍👍
    Great photography as well, any chance of a video ??? 😉
    Details of internals and control???
    Cheers, Doug 😎
  2. Nerys
    Fleet Admiral
    Thank you, Doug, for those very kind comments. I am afraid we do not have a video camera. I think photos of the interior showing control lines would be a bit too vague, but, both the mainsheet and the vang fall come via plastic piping at one end of the main horse through the deck. Both go to screw eyes on the false floor, called the ceiling in a barge, then forward the full length of the main hatch to two more screw eyes, then back aft again to the servo arm. Both being tied off on the arm, Thus the one servo controls both ropes. Hope that's clear.

    Cheers,
    Nerys
  3. Martin555
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi,
    What a beautiful model,you must be very proud of yourself.
    She really looks the part on the water.
    Excellent job well done.

    Martin.
  4. Neil-S
    Able Seaman
    Lovely model, looks the part and it looks like it sails well. I used to live near Upnor, very nice place to visit if you're in the Chatham area, winds can be tricky on the River Medway and there are loads of sandbanks; you're better off sailing in Barry!
  5. Nerys
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Neil S,

    Yes she is named after the villages on the Medway. I lived in Lower Upnor for some years. We moved there when I was sixteen and on the first day I was delighted to look out of my bedroom window and see two loaded barges coming down Chatham Reach. That was in the late 40's. I sailed and raced from the Medway Yacht Club at Upnor so know the river well. The mudbanks are no problem unless you try sailing into the drying out creeks, of which there are many, on a falling tide.
  6. Elsrickle
    Warrant Officer
    Brilliant job well done. First class model.
    Hope you bringing it to Cold Knap show on Saturday. Would like to see a close up of all the rigging looks complicated.
  7. Nerys
    Fleet Admiral
    Yes, I'll be at Cold Knap on Saturday. Let's hope it is as good as it was for the VofGMBC event a couple of weeks ago and there's just a nice sailing breeze. It was very gusty there last Saturday and Upnor told me that she didn't enjoy it. Water half way up the hatches!
  8. ropeburn123
    Able Seaman
    Lovely boat , used to love seeing them on medway ,the cambria used to go a lot was moored next to my old school arethusa at honor.heard cambria is derelict now 😏
  9. RNinMunichBronze
    Fleet Admiral
    "Arethusa" !? (AKA Peking)
    Funny you should mention her Ropey!
    I've been tracking her renovation, here in Germany, since Nerys mentioned her association with the ship. Last I heard the hull was done, she's been refloated, new teak decks fitted and was waiting for her new masts.
    Reports are here on the site - somewhere 😉
    Update June 2019; back in dry dock having her masts fitted😊 See pics.
    Look here for more of the latest pics
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category😛eters_Werft
    Hmm! on saving this post the site changes 'colonP' to 😛 !!??🤔
    Change it back in your browser address box!
    Plan is that next year she will become part of the Schifffahrt Museum display in Hmaburg.
    Cheers, Doug 😎
    "Peking was launched in February 1911 and left Hamburg for her maiden voyage to Valparaiso in May of the same year. After the outbreak of World War I she was interned at Valparaiso and remained in Chile for the duration of the war. Awarded to the Kingdom of Italy as war reparation she was sold back to her original owners, the Laeisz brothers, in January 1923. She remained in the nitrate trade until traffic through the Panama Canal proved quicker and more economical.

    Arethusa II
    In 1932, she was sold for £6,250 to Shaftesbury Homes. She was first towed to Greenhithe, renamed Arethusa II and moored alongside the existing Arethusa I. In July 1933, she was moved to a new permanent mooring off Upnor on the River Medway, where she served as a children's home and training school. She was officially "opened" by Prince George on 25 July 1933. During World War II she served in the Royal Navy as HMS Pekin(g?). "
  10. RNinMunichBronze
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Ropeburn,
    "heard cambria is derelict now"
    Apparently SB Cambria WAS almost derelict☹️ but has now been restored and is now active as both museum and training ship 😊

    "READ ORL ABAHT IT!!" Here-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB_Cambria
    Pic shows her at Standard Quay, Faversham Creek.
    Cheers, Doug 😎
  11. Joe727
    Commander
    Nerys,
    Very nice sailing barge! For my current build, I am trying to determine how I should control the mizzen. I was planning on using a separate servo to control it. Looking at your photos, it looks like you have a line to the rudder and that the mizzen moves with the rudder. Is that the case? Does the boat handle well?

    Thank you for time and I appreciate your comments.
    Joe
  12. Nerys
    Fleet Admiral
    Hi Joe,

    There is little point in putting a servo on the mizzen sheet, the sail area isn't large enough to have any effect on performance. On a real barge the mizzen is used basically as an aid to steering and helps to bring the stern around when tacking and I treat it in the same way on my barges.

    However, your barge being a ketch has a bigger mizzen and would benefit from being controlled by a servo.

    All the best, Nerys
  13. Joe727
    Commander
    Thank you for the detailed response. Yes, I have been researching the difference between the ketch and yawl rigging and realized that the barge I am building is more of a ketch type. I think I will experiment with a servo and see how it affects sailing. Joe
  14. ropeburn123
    Able Seaman
    Only just seen this post , great to see she survived ,when on mooring at lower upnor went on her a lot.😁

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