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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 15.Finally!!
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 15.Finally!!
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Doogle (
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Very nice Bill, congratulations on finishing such a superb model. Looking forward to seeing her sailing as and when you're up to it plus your new venture. ๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 14.Trim tests.
1 year ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Looks great Bill, successful builders trials done and passed by the looks of it.
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 12 Final touches.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Doogle (
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Looks superb ๐, a lovely piece of work. Happy sailing, looking forward to the next installment of seeing her afloat. Dream of having a bath to use for testing-we only have a wet room and tรฒo much gaffer tape needed to seal round the door ๐คฃ. I have built a test tank behind the shed, works well until now, discovered that HMS NELSON is too long by about 3 inches. Guess I "need a bigger tank"
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Doug.
Thanks for your reply. There are so many variables itโs a minefield. No gauntlet thrown down I assure you! re weathering . Youโre right re HMS Victorious (carrier) and the guns motion. Yep problem was sorted and I will update soon. Alas she is still not finished, because of my ongoing health issues I canโt even lift her off the shelf so itโs sort of on hold for now. Iโm concentrating on smaller vessels at moment while I can. Take care all. Further update soon. Regards Bill PS.1325 hrs found this video of my Victorious gun motion. Bill. ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Hi Bill,
Then I bow to superior knowledge and authority and sit corrected.๐ I was not aware of that tradition, interesting. Ref Belfast chains: Shudda known, or suspected. Attached is a pic I found in my archive, clearly showing white chains. Date of photo unknown. Probably just dismissed it as 'tarting up' for the museum ship. I visited Belfast in the late seventies and took many photos, 35mm no digital cameras back then. Will have to dig around in the cellar to find them. I remember standing on the fo'c'sle but colour of the chains eludes my ancient memory, wudda sworn they were black๐ค Admittedly most RN ships I have been on were Ex RN ๐ Last RN serving ships I was on were a Duke Class frigate in Valparaiso and an Assault Ship under refit at the BAE Surface Ships yard in Glasgow. I appreciate that you have thrown down the gauntlet by challenging me to post my weathering attempts. I freely admit that I have not yet attempted this awesome aspect of our hobby, as you presumably suspected๐ I have however done much research on the subject and watched several U-toob vids on the subject, especially those concerning WW2 naval subjects. My comment simply reflected a recurring comment in all these vids and the LifeColor 'How to' instructions. I have purchased their ship weathering sets of washes etc for hulls and decks. At the moment I am more concerned with getting the ships mobile. So they remain in 'Fleet Review' trim for now. Will watch your progress with great interest and admiration for your guts to take on this challenge. BTW: Did you ever finish your carrier? I recall a discussion on how to drive the aft gun turrets some time ago. Regards, Doug. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Hi Doug.
I hope I never do overdo it re weathering,just get the correct balance where appropriate.๐ค I have some slight adjustments to make to a couple of points to keep it as subtle as I can ๐ Perhaps you could post some pictures of your weathering on your models for us,it would be good to compare. There is a tradition in the Royal Navy that anchor chains were painted white. This certainly did not occur in reality. BTW,on each of the four ships I served on in the Royal Fleet Auxiliary and one attachment to the RN none of them had black anchor chain and I have never seen black chain on a RN vessel.(US Navy โฆyes!) Thatโs not to say they do not paint black,they may well do in some cases. Re Belfastโฆ to my knowledge she never had black chain at any time in her service.An ex colleague of mine was the buffer on Belfast for two years and also is unaware of her carrying black chain. Again I am happy to stand corrected. Carrying on the good work over. Regards Bill ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Don't overdo it Bill. Remember 'Less is more' when weathering, you don't want her to end up looking like Poseidon๐ฎ
However, you might consider the water run off from the breakwater in heavy seas. BTW anchor chain on every naval ship I've been on was painted black. Just a word to the wise๐ KUTGW ๐ Doug๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Thank you everyone for your comments.
Really appreciated. Still a bit more work to do to bring her to life. ๐๐ Regards Bill. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Double Rum (
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Nice weathering job, It really brings the ship to life. In my opinion weathering adds a lot to ship models. Makes them look as they should look.
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Quite realistic Bill๐ -need to get those ratings out with chipping hammer and paint brush๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Doogle (
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Great photos and a very interesting tip. Thinking about giving this ago.๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update No 11 Weathering.
1 year ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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I like it Bill. Super job. At leat I now know who to talk to when I want to weather my next project. Very soon I hope.๐ฌ๐ฌ
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 10.To Weather or not to Weather.
1 year ago by ๐จ๐ฆ Ronald (
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง AndyN (
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That looks very promising Bill and i agree on the personal aspect of weathering. Since we don't have any colour pictures from that era we can only rely on common sense.
I think, regardless of how clean you want the model to be, some rust is a must. I might even tempt you to add some salt residues. Good luck ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 10.To Weather or not to Weather.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Doogle (
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Great tips, photos and video. Thanks for sharing Bill ๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 9.Stand and Anchor.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Doogle (
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Great photos, thanks for sharing ๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Pete.
Thank you for the comments ๐๐. Using a six channel set. Motors,rudder,guns and crane from the channels. Lights,radar and smoke effects manually at this time. When I have the capacity I will combine smoke and throttle together. Hope all is well. Regards Bill. ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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Very nice Bill. You really are doing a good job.
How many channels will you need to operate all of the functions? Looking forward to the next episode. Pete.๐๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Andy.
Thank you for your comments ๐. Always happy for suggestions to improve things. Warm Gel?. This is a new one on me!unless Iโm missing the obvious. What is it please? Regards Bill ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง AndyN (
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This is becoming a great realistic model. I love the progress so far. Hope you will have enough juice to operate everything for more than 10min๐
As a scale modelmaker I can't wait for the weathering stage. One comment if you don't mind. I would put a warm gel around those leds to make it less starwars-like. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Pete.
Re the port light ! Good spot on your part ๐๐. For some reason the port light decided to play up just after fitting and went dim on me so it will be a case of replacing the offending item next week. Take care Bill ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Rookysailor (
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Nice job Bill, the port light in the photo does not look as bright as the starboard light, is it lit ? or is it the photo dulling it.
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง TerryH (
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Lovely town class your building. My late father was on her in the early 50s I believe
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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โThose light bulbs look suspiciously like LEDโs to meโ
Youโre right Doug,light bulbsโฆ.typo on my part. Put it down to my age! Bill. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Nice jobs Bill๐
Those light 'bulbs' look suspiciously like LEDs to me๐ When I eventually get around to it I'm proposing to use SMD LEDs, about 1mm square!๐ค Cheers, Doug๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Afternoon Jockscott.
Thank you.Still a lot to do on this refit. All the railings are as fitted by Graupner from the factory. I will probably be replacing some stanchions with brass replacements and will be weathering the originals in due course. I think it is unlikely that you will be able to purchase the original railings as spares as Graupner spares are almost impossible to obtain. I did contact Graupner re spares and had a very negative unhelpful reply. Sorry I canโt be of more help. Regards Bill ▲
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1 year ago by ๐จ๐ฆ JockScott (
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Very impressive. May I ask you: did you do the railings from scratch? If not are they still available?
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
1 year ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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Great job Bill. This looks really good. Persistence has paid off. ๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Much better Bill๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Hi Andy.
Thank you for your comments. Good idea re moving the smokers further down which I may well do ๐. In the meantime I have revamped the existing ones and think they are working better. I am just about to post the addendum. Regards Bill. ▲
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1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง AndyN (
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That looks absolutely great, Bill. It will make the heads turn with that smoke.
I made me think however... What if you put those emitters a bit lower inside the chimneys? Would that make the smoke look less concentrated/accumulated in one spot? Excuse my english, I hope you know what I mean. Great job so far, can't wait to see her in action. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ง๐ช hermank (
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Mouldbuilder I like your funny comment๐๐๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ญ๐บ MouldBuilder (
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Super job Bill. Just beware of those pesky Seagulls nesting on your new funnel cages.๐
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Hi JB.
Thanks for following the refit. I am unsure at this time as I havnโt done a full test as yet,but on my Corvette the fluid lasted about 20 min. Have some modifications to do today on the funnels and will then test. Will update you then๐. Regards Bill. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ฌ๐ง Scratchbuilder (
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Morning all.
Doug. I donโt disagree with you on your thoughts,thank you! I had the same problem when I fitted an identical smoker to my Grandsons Corvette build just prior to being taken ill in November. To overcome it I did drill vent holes in the former inside the funnel.(see picture of Corvettes funnel). It did the trick! Having learnt from last time I also did the same on Belfasts funnels,BUT, because the space is smaller I donโt think they are as effective ๐ค.(Also see picture of vent holes in Belfast). I am going to enlarge the vent holes today and build a better brass cage as I thought yesterday.We can see if that makes a significant difference. I do like your suggestion of putting it all below decks,but sadly donโt have the room. Will update later chaps. Bill๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Hi Bill,
So far so good๐ Re "I have found that the bulky false cage on the tops of the funnels restrict the smoke flow a little" I'm not convinced that the cage is really the problem. The real problem is most likely that your balsa former closes off the funnel and totally inhibits the 'Chimney effect', which is the whole point of having a funnel in the first place๐. Some 35 years ago I used the Graupner smokers, very similar in form and size but with a wick to 'slurp up' the smoke fluid whereas the Seuthe units (of which I also have some) are 'top fed' with ca 8ml per shot. I soon discovered that building into the funnel with a former such as yours was not terribly effective๐ค No updraught - no chimney effect! Sooo, I fitted a 10mm ally tube in the funnel and mounted the smoker underneath it so that the smoker gizmo did not close off the toob. The smoke fluid reservoir was the cap of a large paint spray can and the smoke unit was mounted on the rim by taking 1mm tinned copper wire from the smoker element through holes drilled in the cap rim, sealed with 2 part epoxy glue. Thus suspending the smoker above the fluid with only the wick immersed. Thus the whole smoke unit remained under deck and did not inhibit removal of deck and superstructure in any way. The 10mm tube provided the required updraught and greatly enhanced the 'Make smoke number one' effect when underway. I used the 'Gear' switch on my Sanwa TX to switch it on as required. Thanks to the large reservoir the unit would run all afternoon. Nor sure how long the 8ml in the Seuthe units will last but I guesstimate not more than ca 30 minutes if that. They were designed essentially for model railway locs. Sorry no pics or vids, did not possess a suitable camera back then๐ค Some years ago the ship (HMS Hotspur 1:72) was completely stripped out for a major refit, and I've been wondering for some time where the hell I put the smoker and reservoir unit๐ Have moved house 3 times since then! Cheers, Doug ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
1 year ago by ๐ณ๐ฟ jbkiwi (
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Just catching up Bill,- mods are looking great so far.๐ How long will the smoke run before it needs topping up?
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