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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
5 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Pete.
Thank you for the comments ππ. Using a six channel set. Motors,rudder,guns and crane from the channels. Lights,radar and smoke effects manually at this time. When I have the capacity I will combine smoke and throttle together. Hope all is well. Regards Bill. ▲
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5 days ago by ππΊ MouldBuilder (
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Very nice Bill. You really are doing a good job.
How many channels will you need to operate all of the functions? Looking forward to the next episode. Pete.ππ ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
5 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Andy.
Thank you for your comments π. Always happy for suggestions to improve things. Warm Gel?. This is a new one on me!unless Iβm missing the obvious. What is it please? Regards Bill ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 8,more lighting.
5 days ago by π¬π§ AndyN (
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This is becoming a great realistic model. I love the progress so far. Hope you will have enough juice to operate everything for more than 10minπ
As a scale modelmaker I can't wait for the weathering stage. One comment if you don't mind. I would put a warm gel around those leds to make it less starwars-like. ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
14 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Pete.
Re the port light ! Good spot on your part ππ. For some reason the port light decided to play up just after fitting and went dim on me so it will be a case of replacing the offending item next week. Take care Bill ▲
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14 days ago by π¬π§ Rookysailor (
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Nice job Bill, the port light in the photo does not look as bright as the starboard light, is it lit ? or is it the photo dulling it.
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
15 days ago by π¬π§ TerryH (
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Lovely town class your building. My late father was on her in the early 50s I believe
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
15 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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βThose light bulbs look suspiciously like LEDβs to meβ
Youβre right Doug,light bulbsβ¦.typo on my part. Put it down to my age! Bill. ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 7. Radar and Lighting.
15 days ago by π©πͺ RNinMunich (
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Nice jobs Billπ
Those light 'bulbs' look suspiciously like LEDs to meπ When I eventually get around to it I'm proposing to use SMD LEDs, about 1mm square!π€ Cheers, Dougπ ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
16 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Afternoon Jockscott.
Thank you.Still a lot to do on this refit. All the railings are as fitted by Graupner from the factory. I will probably be replacing some stanchions with brass replacements and will be weathering the originals in due course. I think it is unlikely that you will be able to purchase the original railings as spares as Graupner spares are almost impossible to obtain. I did contact Graupner re spares and had a very negative unhelpful reply. Sorry I canβt be of more help. Regards Bill ▲
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17 days ago by π¨π¦ JockScott (
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Very impressive. May I ask you: did you do the railings from scratch? If not are they still available?
They don't look like photo etched. ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
20 days ago by ππΊ MouldBuilder (
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Great job Bill. This looks really good. Persistence has paid off. ππ
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Follow up to Update No 6..Result!!
20 days ago by π©πͺ RNinMunich (
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Much better Billπ
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
20 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Hi Andy.
Thank you for your comments. Good idea re moving the smokers further down which I may well do π. In the meantime I have revamped the existing ones and think they are working better. I am just about to post the addendum. Regards Bill. ▲
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20 days ago by π¬π§ AndyN (
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That looks absolutely great, Bill. It will make the heads turn with that smoke.
I made me think however... What if you put those emitters a bit lower inside the chimneys? Would that make the smoke look less concentrated/accumulated in one spot? Excuse my english, I hope you know what I mean. Great job so far, can't wait to see her in action. ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by π§πͺ hermank (
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Mouldbuilder I like your funny commentπππ
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by ππΊ MouldBuilder (
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Super job Bill. Just beware of those pesky Seagulls nesting on your new funnel cages.π
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Hi JB.
Thanks for following the refit. I am unsure at this time as I havnβt done a full test as yet,but on my Corvette the fluid lasted about 20 min. Have some modifications to do today on the funnels and will then test. Will update you thenπ. Regards Bill. ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Morning all.
Doug. I donβt disagree with you on your thoughts,thank you! I had the same problem when I fitted an identical smoker to my Grandsons Corvette build just prior to being taken ill in November. To overcome it I did drill vent holes in the former inside the funnel.(see picture of Corvettes funnel). It did the trick! Having learnt from last time I also did the same on Belfasts funnels,BUT, because the space is smaller I donβt think they are as effective π€.(Also see picture of vent holes in Belfast). I am going to enlarge the vent holes today and build a better brass cage as I thought yesterday.We can see if that makes a significant difference. I do like your suggestion of putting it all below decks,but sadly donβt have the room. Will update later chaps. Billπ ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by π©πͺ RNinMunich (
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Hi Bill,
So far so goodπ Re "I have found that the bulky false cage on the tops of the funnels restrict the smoke flow a little" I'm not convinced that the cage is really the problem. The real problem is most likely that your balsa former closes off the funnel and totally inhibits the 'Chimney effect', which is the whole point of having a funnel in the first placeπ. Some 35 years ago I used the Graupner smokers, very similar in form and size but with a wick to 'slurp up' the smoke fluid whereas the Seuthe units (of which I also have some) are 'top fed' with ca 8ml per shot. I soon discovered that building into the funnel with a former such as yours was not terribly effectiveπ€ No updraught - no chimney effect! Sooo, I fitted a 10mm ally tube in the funnel and mounted the smoker underneath it so that the smoker gizmo did not close off the toob. The smoke fluid reservoir was the cap of a large paint spray can and the smoke unit was mounted on the rim by taking 1mm tinned copper wire from the smoker element through holes drilled in the cap rim, sealed with 2 part epoxy glue. Thus suspending the smoker above the fluid with only the wick immersed. Thus the whole smoke unit remained under deck and did not inhibit removal of deck and superstructure in any way. The 10mm tube provided the required updraught and greatly enhanced the 'Make smoke number one' effect when underway. I used the 'Gear' switch on my Sanwa TX to switch it on as required. Thanks to the large reservoir the unit would run all afternoon. Nor sure how long the 8ml in the Seuthe units will last but I guesstimate not more than ca 30 minutes if that. They were designed essentially for model railway locs. Sorry no pics or vids, did not possess a suitable camera back thenπ€ Some years ago the ship (HMS Hotspur 1:72) was completely stripped out for a major refit, and I've been wondering for some time where the hell I put the smoker and reservoir unitπ Have moved house 3 times since then! Cheers, Doug π ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 6 Making Smoke
21 days ago by π³πΏ jbkiwi (
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Just catching up Bill,- mods are looking great so far.π How long will the smoke run before it needs topping up?
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
28 days ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Prior planning etc π
Well done,funny we should discuss the very issue. Bill ▲
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28 days ago by π¬π§ flaxbybuck (
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Well, I just experienced the very thing that I mentioned in my last comment, viz. servo failure. A standard size servo that controls the rudder in my schooner failed after only 6 months use. Thankfully I was mindful of the need for access to all the electrics etc when I made the boat and was able to change the faulty servo without any problem.π
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
1 month ago by π¬π§ flaxbybuck (
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Thanks for your reply Bill.
You'd be surprised how many boats we see where the internal electrics are no longer accessible. π ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
1 month ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Morning Flaxbybuck
Good point and-one that I did take into account and should have mentioned. The crane pinion just slides into the tube that I turned on the lathe and is a friction fit so will lift out easily. The servo cradle is lightly glued and will easily pull off if needed.π€π€ I would have preferred to fix with screws but didnβt in this instance want to drill thru the decks or cover screw heads with deck furniture. Thanks for your interest,and happy to help if I canπ. Bill ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
1 month ago by π¬π§ flaxbybuck (
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I'm interested in the crane servo installation. Should the servo fail will you be able to replace it without a great deal of demolition π?
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
1 month ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Hi Andy.
Thank you for your comments. Always happy for comments and advice from anyone,good or bad! Yes the servos are standard size as I have enough room to play with. Regards Bill ▲
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π¬ Re: HMS Belfast Update Number 2.Trim Test.Battery Tray and Lifeboat Crane.
1 month ago by π¬π§ AndyN (
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I'm loving the progress so far. Are you using micro or the standard servos?
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Gents.
Thank you all for the kind comments. I am lucky that I have time on my side so will be able to plan and prepare. Dougβ¦ I was aware you had one in your collection as have seen previously.You should recommission!. I had no idea re the manual for the model, subsequently found on line. Doesn't really say a lot other than the obvious but worth a look,thank you for the heads up. Purchased the new propellers from ever faithful Prop Shop(highly recommended quality products). I am looking forward to this refit,not least of all getting my larger hands inside the hull space.I will be conducting weight ballast tests soon with all the components on board. Battery weight could be fun!! Take care all. Bill ▲
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2 months ago by π©πͺ RNinMunich (
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I too will be watching with avid interest Bill.
Not least because I also have this ship, but not for a song - more like an operaπ, and have similar plans for it. See my Boat harbour, links below. So I hope you are fit again ASAP so you can get on with your refitπ I also bought 4 replacement brass props, the plastic prop hubs were cracked on mine anyway. Ref freeboard- The instruction manual specifies two SLA batteries, 6V 6.5Ah I think. So I bought the recommended type and ... lo and behold the damn things wouldn't fit through the hatches and sit flat not no never which wayπ So I plan to use NiMh or LiPo, saving mucho weight which I can then use for internal gubbinsesπ Also have the Graf Spee from this series, similar problems as well a misaligned shaft, poor resin castings, and paintwork. Been some years since I could work on themπ, just inspected Belfast and was ashamed to see the depth of dust on her (Sherlock Holmes' filing systemπ). Get well soon Shipmateπ Doug π ▲
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ johnf (
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A really ambitious project on a rather complex model. I shall watch this build with interest!!
Dr John F. Leeds and Bradford. MBC. πππ ▲
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ AndyN (
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Holy shit. That's going to be an amazing journey for you sir. Can I watch?
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Good advice Toradog:Thank you.π
Youβre right there wonβt be much free board with my plans,but I will be putting all items in situ and running draught checks in engraving dock number 1 (the bath). I may position them low and use tubing up to the turrets and friction fitting. I have done this in the past with good results. This is why our site is so successful because everyone is happy to share ππ Regards Bill ▲
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2 months ago by πΊπΈ ToraDog (
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Scratchbuilder,
It must be wonderful to be able to share your hobby with a Grandchild! I would urge some caution on your build plans. You will be adding quite a bit of weight and much of it will be "high" on the ship. Hopefully, there is some ballast that you can replace with your build plans. Also, be aware of the added current load of those servos( if that is what you are planning to use for your turrets). Carry On!π ▲
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ Scratchbuilder (
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Hi Flaxbybuck.
Thank you. Like so many others on our site I am very lucky to have Grandsons who love modelling and really appreciate the skills that we can pass on to them. I shall enjoy doing this refit. Regards Bill. ▲
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π¬ Re: Graupner HMS Belfast 1:150.
2 months ago by π¬π§ flaxbybuck (
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Good luck with your upgrades Bill. I like the look of this model (and of the table clothπ) I just hope that your grandson will appreciate it !
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