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    📝 On the water
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Managed to get out and test the Occre Ulisis today. I added one of the super cheap plug and play sound modules that Garth mentioned in his blog post a week or so ago (from Aliexpress). Water was a bit choppy but I am really pleased with how she looks on the water.

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    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Isaac… it was one of these. Only took a week to arrive in the UK from China.
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    💬 Re: On the water
    7 months ago by 🇺🇸 Isaac ( Lieutenant)
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    What a beautiful tug boat running in the canal.😎😎😎


    Love it!


    I missed the point about a sound module. Can you share it here again?

    Thanks

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    📝 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I’m just waiting for the frame that supports the lifeboats to dry and then I can add those. Hopefully the next update will be of her on the water…

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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    As well you might be Trident.
    Mind the prongs!😮😭
    Looking forward to your next creation, you've set the bar high already.
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Many thanks RN - I dunno about Neptune, but I am very pleased with how she has turned out 🙂 Thoughts now turn to what to do next 🤔
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Duper super Trident👍😀 Neptune must be proud of you.
    Want one Want one Want one Want one ... 😁

    😎
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks so much Doogle. Appreciated.
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Doogle ( Vice Admiral)
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    Outstanding model 👌, well done 👏
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks Isaac, it has been a fun kit to build.
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇺🇸 Isaac ( Lieutenant)
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    I love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Isaac
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks DW and Alessandro. Appreciate your comments 👍
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇺🇸 DWBrinkman ( Commodore)
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    Beautiful build!!
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Beautiful naval model!
    Excellent achievement.
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks Phil and Michel 🙏🏻
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 PhilH ( Lieutenant)
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    Looking real good beautiful, what a great model .love it.
    Philuk👍
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇨🇭 Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    👍👍
    . . Madness! Such perfect details! Congratulations
    😮😮😮😮
    Michel-C.
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thank you Ronald
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    💬 Re: 99% finished
    7 months ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Superb
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    📝 A bit more progress
    8 months ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I’ve been a bit quiet on the forum for a while as life’s other priorities are dealt with. On occasion I have found time to do bits and pieces on the tug however. I have pretty much finished the woodwork and am now awaiting a decent day to do some varnishing of the planking on the wheelhouse.

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    💬 Re: A bit more progress
    8 months ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    It's coming out well, I like it.
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    📝 Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Well that is the hull done now I think. The green took several coats to get right. I decided Humbrol gloss #3 was a bit too bright for my liking so I mixed in some gloss black before I sprayed it until it looked about right to my tastes and I am quite happy with the result.

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    💬 Re: Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 PhilH ( Lieutenant)
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    If you are happy that is what is important good job
    Philuk 👍
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    💬 Re: Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    You painted the hull with great mastery.
    Well done Trident73.
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    💬 Re: Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇨🇭 Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hello Trident
    Only the first name is perfect! 👍👍👍👍
    The candidate has 100 points!!!

    Read you soon, Michel-C.
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    💬 Re: Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 flaxbybuck ( Captain)
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    Looks really nice to me ! 😉
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    💬 Re: Hull painted
    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Perfect👍😀

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    📝 It has been a while
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I have had limited time to build recently, but in the recent run of good weather I have made a start to the painting of the hull and superstructure on the Occre Ulises. All the paints are either Humbrol or Revell enamels and have been thinned about 40-50% for airbrushing. I still have to do another coat of the antifouling red and then I am going for a dark green upper hull to leave a thin white waterline between the two.

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    📝 Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Despite being a long way from finished everything so far is resin coated or primed and therefore waterproof so I decided to give her a test outing. Ballast was courtesy of three 6v 4Ah batteries and a small amount of lead and it still needs some “finessing”. I sailed her for about 45 minutes and am pleased with her so far.

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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hiya Alessandro, thanks for the comments. On the day I only hooked up one battery to the motor, but the plan would be to use a parallel connection to the others next time. I am sure it could sail for longer than 45mins. By the time the rest of the build is done I guess I will probably be down to two batteries and some lead for ballast as the fittings will all add up in weight terms.
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    1 year ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Great intermediate test, Trident73.
    It sails very well.
    Three lead-acid batteries! Great, you'll have a lot of autonomy I imagine.
    Did you connect all three in parallel, or is one dedicated to the receiver and servos and the other two in parallel to the motor (my favorite solution)? Or other?

    But am I wrong or could it do much more than 45 minutes?
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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Trident,
    I appreciate that you had glassed the hull so the underlying wood was protected👍
    Nevertheless, sailing only with primer is not recommended as it absorbs moisture.
    Be sure to thoroughly thoroughly dry it out before proceeding to top coating.
    I have added the link to my Blog for info, but I realise you may not want the 'glass' finish for a working boat😉
    So far so good, watching with interest.🤓
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇺🇸 Isaac ( Lieutenant)
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    she is ready for fitments. 👍



    have fun


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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Doug, thanks for the heads up. On this case though everything has been glassed or varnished and the grey primer is a coat to show any imperfections of the glass coating.
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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sails well Trident👍 Chugalug chugalug😉
    A word to the wise!
    Primer does NOT waterproof!
    It consists largely of a solvent and a fine filler powder, chalk powder or similar.
    Look at any car with a primed panel that's been out in the rain and you'll see what I mean.
    For my Sea Scout 'Jessica' (see build blog) I used a 4 stage process-
    1 2 applications of EzeKote water based resin, diluted with about 10-15% water to seal the wood-
    2 Grey primer/filler from the auto branch-
    3 Top coat colour, Royal Blue, also from auto branch-
    4 Clear finishing lacquer from same paint series as the colour coat to achieve a glass like surface.
    Details of materials used are in my blog.
    Cheers, Doug😎


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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Boatshed. Yes I am in Sevenoaks but this weekend I was in Gloucestershire and that was a quiet section of the Gloucestershire and Shapeness canal. I had been paddleboarding with a mate that weekend and the worst case scenario was that we would have had to blow one up and go get the boat. We did have a case of a lost prop on one boat this weekend but I used the new tug to push the stricken boat back to safety.
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    💬 Re: Maiden voyage
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 BOATSHED ( Commander)
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    Hi Trident73,
    I see you are in Sevenoaks, I am curious, I see you you run your boats on a river. Is it on the Medway/ Are you not worried if anything should happen (not trying to be a Jonah).
    How would you receive or do you take a recovery R/C boat with you.
    That would always be my concern.
    I have run my boats up on the Norfolk Broads but that was only because I kept a dingy in the Boat yard that I could use near my own Cabin Cruiser I had there. Or actually out on the river when I was following it a bout 50 yards behind it. People used to look amassed when they saw a small boat out on the river. I heard someone shout out to me once "watch out mate your going to run over someone's toy boat".
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    Nice driving style, it sits well in the water.👍
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    📝 Started on the superstructure
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Now that the deck woes are finished (scraping down and revarnishing worked), I have made a start on the superstructure. I have to line the wheelhouse inside and out with strips of walnut. Should hopefully look nice when it is finished. I was pondering whether I could make the door functional - in real life would it swing inwards towards the cabin interior?

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    💬 Re: Started on the superstructure
    1 year ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I'm glad you eliminated the problem on the bridge, you are now progressing very quickly after that annoying obstacle.
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    💬 Re: Started on the superstructure
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks for the info Doug and Len. It all makes sense. I will have a think about whether I could replicate a sliding door perhaps 🤔
    Regards, Chris.
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    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Ronald, no the woods in the kit are basically sapelli for the deck planks, Walnut for all the other planking and panelling and framing and some lime also.
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    1 year ago by 🇺🇸 Len1 ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    As you have already been advised the door always opens outward. I also believe that the door swing should be such that the door swings against the direction of forward motion. This way it will not be slammed open if it comes off its restraint and causes an open passage for the sea to enter.
    Len
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    1 year ago by 🇨🇦 Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Do you have Mahogany available? The reason is that Mahogany stands up to the elements better because of the natural properties and oils in the wood.

    When we toured the Alaska State Capital building, I noticed that the interior was finished in Mahogany rather than the natural wood materials found in that state. Upon asking about it, the answer was that the mahogany stood up better in the fluctuations of moisture compared to the other species found in the forests of Alaska.


    I would have thought Cedar could be used, but they said no, Cedar didn’t have the structural qualities that the Mahogany did.

    Cabinetry, doors, trim all were Mahogany.
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    Makes sense, I was just guessing.👍
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I agree with your Dad Trident👍
    Many smaller vessels have sliding doors for space saving reasons.
    BUT, always on the outside so that it gets pushed onto the frame, not pushed off it's tracks inwards.
    It also saves space inside which is needed for consoles, other equipment or furniture.
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    💬 Re: Started on the superstructure
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Thanks Doug and Wolle - I asked my dad about the door as well - he was a harbour pilot for his career and he reckons it would have been outwards as well or otherwise even possibly a sliding door. It makes sense what you say about pushing onto the weather seal 👍🏻
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Trident,
    Nice work, SFSG👍

    Re the door.
    As a general rule, and on every ship I've been on, naval or civil, and there's been quite few over 30+ years, ANY door which opens onto a Weather Deck, i.e. to the outside, always opens outwards.
    This is to ensure that in storm conditions (or even a rogue wave) the door will be pressed into the watertight seal. Instead of of being pushed inwards by wind gust or water pressure and thus risking flooding the ship.😮😭
    Cheers, Doug😎
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    💬 Re: Started on the superstructure
    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    Looks very nice.
    With the door...very good question. 🤔I've never thought about that. I think inwardly.
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    📝 It got worse 😁
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    The longer I left it to cure the more the deck reacted. I think a full sanding and varnishing with something neutral/waterbased like the eze kote iswhat I am going to have to do now. Oh well, i guess modelling is 90% about solving challenges.


    Update 24.05: the deck scraping seems to have worked thankfully. I have applied a couple of coats of really thinned down yacht varnish and all seems to be well so far. I think this coming weekend I will begin to make a start on the superstructure and possibly start the colour on the hull. I don’t know why but I don’t really want to paint it the box art colours so I am going to go with dark green and white above the waterline instead of the black that the box shows.

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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    What a beautiful ship. Congratulations👍
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    💬 Re: It got worse 😁
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 StuartE ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Hi Trident... I bought this kit 3 years ago and had a build blog.....but never kept it up. I have now finished and will add some pictures and video to the blog i was running.... It was the first model I have done with planking and it was very challenging as you've found.
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    💬 Re: It got worse 😁
    1 year ago by 🇮🇹 AlessandroSPQR ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Ah ok Trident73, if you also resined the inside your hull is very robust and well waterproofed. Optimal.

    I am very interested in this problem, I will see how you solve it and learn from you.

    Yes, I don't think you're the type to give up. However, I think the best solution is the one you are adopting. Strip the wood of the deck completely bare.

    Logically you will do other tests outside your ship to observe the reactions. Only if everything is fine after two days can you repeat it in the model. Right?
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    💬 Re: It got worse 😁
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    I agree. I will persevere past it. I have already scraped the deck clean back to the wood using a half of a knife blade. I will check it carefully again tomorrow and then have a fresh go at finish coating it.
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    I'm sorry but a model maker does not give up and faces the challenge
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    📝 £&@@£#!!
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Been having a few nightmares with the deck. For some reason when I masked and sprayed the bulwarks (with rattle can car acrylic) yesterday, the lower edges of them reacted and blistered. Don’t know why. The oly thing they could have reacted with is the cyano I used to glue the bulwarks on. Anyway, I tidied that up and decided to give the deck a thin coat of satin acrylic clearcoat. Bad idea. Now the edges of the deck itself have reacted to where I had masking tape yesterday when doing the bulwarks 🙄. Any ideas? Should I try and rub the deck edges down and start again?

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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    That's probably the better solution. I was thinking of sanding the deck again with very fine sandpaper, but I think you're better off not doing that because it will damage the structure of the deck.
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    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi Wolle, no just at the edges where a particular brand of masking tape was used. I guess some of the adhesive residue must have been left behind. Am considering flat-scraping the edges with a razor blade edge when it has fully cured and then satin coating the edges again. It happened in places on the port side and all the way down the stbd side.
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    1 year ago by 🇩🇪 Wolle ( Commodore)
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    Did this happen everywhere?
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    📝 What do you reckon for this next step?
    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Hi folks. So I have primed and rubbed back and re-primed the hull now thanks to a weekend of decent UK weather.
    This week I now need to bend these. 2mm x 5mm walnut strips into rubbing strips. Do you think crimping them would work best, or steaming them… or a combo of both? It is only the stern I am really worried about as it is a tight-ish radius. I am going to sand a small (5mm) flat around the stern for them to sit on as the area is too sharp at the moment. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

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    1 year ago by 🇬🇧 Trident73 ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Actually, I have answered my own question- a bit of experimentation showed that crimping worked quite satisfactorily …
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