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๐ฌ Re: Skiff sailing
27 days ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Fantastic setting looks good looks like it sailed well
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๐ฌ Re: Skiff sailing
27 days ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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This is awesome Ron! Well done!!!
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PeteJev (
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Hi Ronald
I retired from a construction career in 2011 and am now 79, I continued to use an old version of LT until Autocad withdrew the licence. As I still do the occasional design for extensions etc I found a free LT lookalike "NanoCad" it works exactly as Autocad LT and even uses the same command stucture, which I prefer as I learnt it many years ago and find seeking icons hard work. Give it a try you might be pleasantly surprised. Pete ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ง๐ช hermank (
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That looks like chinese for me. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney (
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney (
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Hello dear engineers...
Enclosed I have found you one of the many originals from Escher Wyss in my great-grandfather's sea trunk. Original size of the plan: Poster size! For this purpose, a bar compass was used, which I still remember well. A thing of the past, but still for us as if it were yesterday! Have a nice evening everyone, have a nice dream! ๐๐๐ Your Michel-C. PS: The steamship Gallia is still in service. Come and visit Lucerne in Central Switzerland and take a tour of the lake! ▲
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง ChrisF (
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I did technical drawing at school, which I enjoyed. My first proper job was as an architectural technician and even though I changed jobs over the years I continued producing architectural drawings by hand for over 40 years and still have my drawing equipment from technical drawing and work, some of which I use for model boat drawings and building.
I never learned CAD as at the last company I worked for, the IT dept. wouldn't let me have it, as they knew better ๐ค and I had to use Microsoft Visio, which is a vector graphics drawing program and not really designed for architectural/construction drawings but I made it work and was pretty pleased with my results. I then bought a copy and used it for my model boat drawings and the odd house extension drawing for friends and family. Once retired I thought I'd learn CAD, partly for 3D printing, and bought TurboCAD. But as said, previous experience of other drawing programs is of little use. The programs aren't intuitive and it takes a long time to learn and if you don't use it for a while you are pretty much back to square one! ๐ So for all my model drawings I returned to Microsoft Visio even though it's not the best tool for the job. Also when retired I had a clear out and took hundreds of drawings down the tip which I had produced over the years, mainly on heavy duty tracing paper of which I still have a roll. Also took my parallel motion drawing board, though I kept the actual board (but not used) as it took up too much space and I use the room for model building now. I could draw to a high standard but of course CAD is a great leveller! ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Speaking of technical drawings, I found some survivors in the cellar. Unfortunately, very little of what remained after years and moves.
The first two attached images are of a technical drawing I made when I was 14 (first year of high school). The photo was taken of the original (an axonometric projection) because I didn't turn in that drawing. We made drawings of pieces both in class and at home. It was particularly difficult because the construction lines of the various ellipses overlapped. The other two images are photocopies of freehand (artistic) drawings that I made more or less in that period. I couldn't photograph the originals because I gave them away but, at the time, I made photocopies that I still keep as a souvenir. Unfortunately, the photocopies of other drawings are lost or hidden who knows where in the cellar. Unlike the technical drawings, these last two drawings I made only for fun. I never attended an artistic drawing school or courses. I drew completely freehand (without even using a ruler) first in pencil and then (when I was convinced of the result) I used a 0.2 nib with India ink. My son was better than me at technical drawing and, in addition to orthogonal projections and various types of axonometry, he also learned perspective. When I helped him I explained to him that, to make a good technical drawing, in my opinion you need to achieve three objectives: 1. Know the geometric construction. 2. Make a correct drawing. 3. Complete a clean and aesthetically beautiful drawing. The first point consists in preparing well to draw the entire project without the aid of a notebook or other sources but only thanks to your memory. So, starting from the simplest plane figures, you must be able to build a figure (such as a pentagon for example) remembering all the steps. Then you get to build complex solids having a clear idea of โโwhat you need to do. The second point concerns the precision of the drawing. A good drawing must have the sides of the right size, the vertices must coincide, etc. etc. in short there must be no errors at the end of the realization. The third point concerns the precautions to have a clean sheet and not dirty with graphite. You must clean the tools every now and then and do not go over the marks already made. A precise drawing will not be well evaluated if it is dirty. Even more important is to make the lines with a uniform stroke and of the same thickness and intensity (dividing it into visible lines, construction lines and hidden lines). This makes the drawing beautiful to look at. With practice then you can complete a task in a short time and this is useful for dealing with class tests in stressful conditions. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: CAD software
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney (
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Hello Ronald,
Time is running out and we can't quite keep up with the new Solid Works and co. In addition, the old CAD software has not been running on Win 11 for a long time. I have downloaded the freeware VMware on a PC and installed XP on it. The old CAD14 software runs perfectly. Back then, they had a one-off licence for it, which I bought from a bankruptcy estate. Solid Work is too expensive for private use, so I'm sticking with my โoldโ CAD. Switching on your brain has never done anyone any harm, except . . Well, let's leave that alone! So enough typing, off to bed! It's almost 01.00 in our country. Your Michel-C. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Drafting
4 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ DWBrinkman (
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I took Drafting in my senior year of high school. Loved that class!
I still own a drafting table, T-Square, and other drafting utensils. Admittedly, they don't get a lot of use these days. But occasionally get put to use. Dave B ▲
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4 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Ciao Mike.
When I saw the photo you posted in your message, I went back in time. My father used to draw using that table (it was practically identical), then he got a better and more modern one. I remember it in great detail because when my father used to draw, my brother and I used to play around the table. On the sides he had rolls of glossy paper several meters long that he unrolled as he drew. They were building plans (elevations and plans). He had all the tools of the trade: (curve rulers, normographs, architect's scale, pens with Indian ink of all sizes, etc. etc.) I used this table only after learning with rulers and set squares. Only a few years before retirement did he use Autocad but knowing how to draw by hand requires a series of skills that make the difference. However, drawing on the computer offers a series of advantages that are now indispensable. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Drafting
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney (
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Hello Ronald and Roy,
Nice to hear that hand drawing and designing on the parallelogram was almost modern back then. Even after my apprenticeship as a machine draughtsman, I had to draw by hand until the company finally switched to CAD 14 in 1990. The miserable heavy big screens resembled a television! And today? Various software with 3D. But I still love my CAD14 today and enjoy using it. 3D is easier, but with 2D you need a bit of imagination. This is healthy for our old brain and keeps us on our toes to become better and better. When you think about how our grandfathers used to draw houses, mechanical devices and much more on paper. .amazing! Let's keep tinkering and developing . . Ideas are there to top them again . . Your Michel-C., . . . Currently lying on 1m x 2m usable area ๐ . . (It is called a bed) ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Drafting
4 months ago by ๐ฆ๐บ peterd (
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No though at some stage would like to try cad. Photoshop, illustrator and InDesign are my tools. I have seen what can be done in CAD and it is a very powerful tool.
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๐ฌ Re: Drafting
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv (
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Hi, I remember doing GCE Woodwork at school 3 exams one was technical drawing so I can do the basics.
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๐ฌ Re: Made all these sails
4 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ RossM (
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4 months ago by ๐จ๐ญ Mike Stoney (
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Hey Ronald!
You're not just a boat builder, you're a tailor too! How to use the sewing machine . . . Great! I still have two shirts to sew and my elbows are worn through from tinkering. Can you do that too? Joking aside, you can do it! Best regards Michel-C. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Made all these sails
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Cracking job top marks we will make a seamstress of you yet ๐.
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๐ฌ Re: Made all these sails
4 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง JohnJ1 (
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Getting better every time.
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๐ฌ Re: Made all these sails
4 months ago by ๐ฉ๐ช RNinMunich (
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Practice makes perfect Ron๐
If at first ...๐ ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Added height to Gunnels
4 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Nice Ron!!!
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๐ฌ Re: Added height to Gunnels
4 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ chugalone100 (
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Great desicion.
It looks like they have always been there. Itโs crazy how sometimes we look at our finished model and say: โI should have done thatโ. Your addition to the model looks perfect. ๐ ▲
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๐ฌ Re: My First Cotton Poplin Sail
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง JohnJ1 (
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Think I'll stick to hand stitching; tedious, but more or less completely under my control.
This may be teaching my grandmother, etc., but are you aware of the item in the attached photo? Can't remember what it's called, needle threader or something, but it's a godsend for tired old eyes like mine. Got mine from Amazon. (word of warning: don't buy the really cheap ones. I bought 250 for ยฃ1.50 or thereabouts, and every one I tried fell apart instantly.) Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know. ▲
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๐ฌ Re: My First Cotton Poplin Sail
5 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ RossM (
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Did you get it to finally cooperate, Ron?
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๐ฌ Re: Making sails with cotton poplin
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง luckyduck (
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In connection with your question on lee rails, and water coming over the side in a gust of wind. It depends how authentic you want to be to the skif design - there are very many sailing dinghies in real life where water is always coming over the side in varying quantities. I used to sail an International Moth, which always took a lot of water on, and therefore had no transom, to ensure water just ran away. Others are not quite so severe and have a self bailing system. An option for you might be to build some scuppers in to allow water to run back out as the skif returns more upright? Or a hidden bilge pump?
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๐ฌ Re: Making sails with cotton poplin
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง JohnJ1 (
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Looking good.
Got the book, btw, quite daunting. I daresay there will be a method which suits me better than what's shown in the book. I hope so, anyway. Also, I note, your model is a 150% scale model of the skiff as published ▲
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๐ฌ Re: Water Testing in Bathtub
5 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ Cashrc (
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Really want to see her on the water..nice find!
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๐ฌ Re: 30โ Skiff
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง roycv (
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Hi Ronald nice to see a well made model, worth more than the $50 paid and I presume the builder is no longer able to continue? But it sounds as if it is the right hands now for the model's future.
Look forward to seeing her sail. I would hope my models get into the hands of someone who will use and appreciate the work put into them. regards Roy ▲
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5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง JohnJ1 (
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Hi Ron. Liked the look of the boat, so I've ordered the book.
Thanks for that.๐ John ▲
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๐ฌ Re: 30โ Skiff
5 months ago by ๐บ๐ธ jumpugly (
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Gorgeous boat Ron! And a very sturdy build to boot! Excellent!!!๐๐ป๐
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๐ฌ Re: 30โ Skiff
5 months ago by ๐ฌ๐ง PhilH (
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Should make a nice model.
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๐ฌ Re: 30โ Skiff
5 months ago by ๐จ๐ฆ AustinG (
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really well built and great workshop.
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๐ฌ Re: 30โ Skiff
5 months ago by ๐ฎ๐น AlessandroSPQR (
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Another great purchase and very interesting project Ron. I will follow your work and improvements as always.
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