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    ๐Ÿ“ Skiff sailing
    27 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I was pleased with how well the skiff sailed on Saturday, I know many of you were concerned with it being an open hull but I had no issues sailing her.
    Many compliments from her performance.

    I played around with the swinging center-board, starting with it fully extended with a draft of 6โ€. Then I moved it up to 5โ€ and it worked well.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Skiff sailing
    27 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PhilH ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Fantastic setting looks good looks like it sailed well
    Philuk๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Skiff sailing
    27 days ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    This is awesome Ron! Well done!!!
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    ๐Ÿ“ CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I used AutoCadLt a 2D drawing software for most of my teaching career from the year 2000 till 2015.

    The school board decided to bring Solid-Works into the classroom but kept the AutoCADLt also. Solid-Works was introduced to the teachers first with introduction sessions before providing it to the students in 2012. I was 63, only 3 years from retiring, and found Solid-Works very difficult. My son uses it in his engineering department and told me to become proficient with it allow a year. He said I could not โ€œthink AutoCADโ€ while working with it, as the software vocabulary was not the same as what I was familiar with and taught the past 12 years.

    Now at 75, I donโ€™t use any software, the Autodesk people have changed AutoCADLt so much that itโ€™s not the same anymore. If I were to buy something like it the ProgeCAD software uses a platform and learning tools closes to those I was familiar using and it is a one time fee, where as Autodesk is a yearly licensing agreement.

    I know there are free downloads out there, I looked into some, but it is not as enjoyable as it once was plus the arthritis in my drawing hand limits me from drawing much anymore.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PeteJev ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Ronald
    I retired from a construction career in 2011 and am now 79, I continued to use an old version of LT until Autocad withdrew the licence. As I still do the occasional design for extensions etc I found a free LT lookalike "NanoCad" it works exactly as Autocad LT and even uses the same command stucture, which I prefer as I learnt it many years ago and find seeking icons hard work. Give it a try you might be pleasantly surprised. Pete
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช hermank ( Rear Admiral)
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    Mike,Ronald
    That looks like chinese for me.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hello everyone,
    I found these relics in my collection box ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
    . . . Omg!
    Best regards Michel-C.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hello dear engineers...
    Enclosed I have found you one of the many originals from Escher Wyss in my great-grandfather's sea trunk. Original size of the plan: Poster size!
    For this purpose, a bar compass was used, which I still remember well. A thing of the past, but still for us as if it were yesterday!
    Have a nice evening everyone, have a nice dream! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    Your Michel-C.
    PS: The steamship Gallia is still in service. Come and visit Lucerne in Central Switzerland and take a tour of the lake!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ChrisF ( Captain)
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    I did technical drawing at school, which I enjoyed. My first proper job was as an architectural technician and even though I changed jobs over the years I continued producing architectural drawings by hand for over 40 years and still have my drawing equipment from technical drawing and work, some of which I use for model boat drawings and building.

    I never learned CAD as at the last company I worked for, the IT dept. wouldn't let me have it, as they knew better ๐Ÿค” and I had to use Microsoft Visio, which is a vector graphics drawing program and not really designed for architectural/construction drawings but I made it work and was pretty pleased with my results. I then bought a copy and used it for my model boat drawings and the odd house extension drawing for friends and family.

    Once retired I thought I'd learn CAD, partly for 3D printing, and bought TurboCAD. But as said, previous experience of other drawing programs is of little use. The programs aren't intuitive and it takes a long time to learn and if you don't use it for a while you are pretty much back to square one! ๐Ÿ˜  So for all my model drawings I returned to Microsoft Visio even though it's not the best tool for the job.

    Also when retired I had a clear out and took hundreds of drawings down the tip which I had produced over the years, mainly on heavy duty tracing paper of which I still have a roll. Also took my parallel motion drawing board, though I kept the actual board (but not used) as it took up too much space and I use the room for model building now.

    I could draw to a high standard but of course CAD is a great leveller! ๐Ÿ™„
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Admiral)
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    Speaking of technical drawings, I found some survivors in the cellar. Unfortunately, very little of what remained after years and moves.

    The first two attached images are of a technical drawing I made when I was 14 (first year of high school).
    The photo was taken of the original (an axonometric projection) because I didn't turn in that drawing. We made drawings of pieces both in class and at home.
    It was particularly difficult because the construction lines of the various ellipses overlapped.

    The other two images are photocopies of freehand (artistic) drawings that I made more or less in that period.
    I couldn't photograph the originals because I gave them away but, at the time, I made photocopies that I still keep as a souvenir. Unfortunately, the photocopies of other drawings are lost or hidden who knows where in the cellar.
    Unlike the technical drawings, these last two drawings I made only for fun. I never attended an artistic drawing school or courses.
    I drew completely freehand (without even using a ruler) first in pencil and then (when I was convinced of the result) I used a 0.2 nib with India ink.

    My son was better than me at technical drawing and, in addition to orthogonal projections and various types of axonometry, he also learned perspective.
    When I helped him I explained to him that, to make a good technical drawing, in my opinion you need to achieve three objectives:
    1. Know the geometric construction.
    2. Make a correct drawing.
    3. Complete a clean and aesthetically beautiful drawing.

    The first point consists in preparing well to draw the entire project without the aid of a notebook or other sources but only thanks to your memory. So, starting from the simplest plane figures, you must be able to build a figure (such as a pentagon for example) remembering all the steps. Then you get to build complex solids having a clear idea of โ€‹โ€‹what you need to do.

    The second point concerns the precision of the drawing. A good drawing must have the sides of the right size, the vertices must coincide, etc. etc. in short there must be no errors at the end of the realization.

    The third point concerns the precautions to have a clean sheet and not dirty with graphite. You must clean the tools every now and then and do not go over the marks already made. A precise drawing will not be well evaluated if it is dirty.
    Even more important is to make the lines with a uniform stroke and of the same thickness and intensity (dividing it into visible lines, construction lines and hidden lines). This makes the drawing beautiful to look at.

    With practice then you can complete a task in a short time and this is useful for dealing with class tests in stressful conditions.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: CAD software
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hello Ronald,
    Time is running out and we can't quite keep up with the new Solid Works and co.
    In addition, the old CAD software has not been running on Win 11 for a long time.
    I have downloaded the freeware VMware on a PC and installed XP on it. The old CAD14 software runs perfectly. Back then, they had a one-off licence for it, which I bought from a bankruptcy estate.
    Solid Work is too expensive for private use, so I'm sticking with my โ€˜oldโ€™ CAD. Switching on your brain has never done anyone any harm, except . . Well, let's leave that alone!
    So enough typing, off to bed! It's almost 01.00 in our country.
    Your Michel-C.
    ๐Ÿ“ Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    How many of you took drafting classes? The drafting table, T-Square, various angle ๐Ÿ“ tools, mechanical pencils or various lead pencils โœ๏ธ soft and hard leads. Erasers, brushes, mistakes oops, begin againโ€ฆ

    Those of you who continue to use this method hats-off!

    I much prefer the drawing software available today which allows me to copy, change the design and create with no issues.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ DWBrinkman ( Captain)
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    I took Drafting in my senior year of high school. Loved that class!
    I still own a drafting table, T-Square, and other drafting utensils.
    Admittedly, they don't get a lot of use these days. But occasionally get put to use.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Admiral)
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    Ciao Mike.
    When I saw the photo you posted in your message, I went back in time.
    My father used to draw using that table (it was practically identical), then he got a better and more modern one.
    I remember it in great detail because when my father used to draw, my brother and I used to play around the table. On the sides he had rolls of glossy paper several meters long that he unrolled as he drew. They were building plans (elevations and plans).
    He had all the tools of the trade: (curve rulers, normographs, architect's scale, pens with Indian ink of all sizes, etc. etc.)
    I used this table only after learning with rulers and set squares.
    Only a few years before retirement did he use Autocad but knowing how to draw by hand requires a series of skills that make the difference. However, drawing on the computer offers a series of advantages that are now indispensable.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ RossM ( Commander)
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    Nothing professional but yea. I'm too old to update. The plastic triangle dates back to the early '70's
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hello Ronald and Roy,
    Nice to hear that hand drawing and designing on the parallelogram was almost modern back then. Even after my apprenticeship as a machine draughtsman, I had to draw by hand until the company finally switched to CAD 14 in 1990.
    The miserable heavy big screens resembled a television!
    And today? Various software with 3D.
    But I still love my CAD14 today and enjoy using it. 3D is easier, but with 2D you need a bit of imagination.
    This is healthy for our old brain and keeps us on our toes to become better and better.
    When you think about how our grandfathers used to draw houses, mechanical devices and much more on paper. .amazing!
    Let's keep tinkering and developing . . Ideas are there to top them again . .
    Your Michel-C., . . . Currently lying on 1m x 2m usable area ๐Ÿ˜” . . (It is called a bed)
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Yes Royce, I remember that too which was rather fun. Those technical drawings๐Ÿ˜
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ peterd ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    No though at some stage would like to try cad. Photoshop, illustrator and InDesign are my tools. I have seen what can be done in CAD and it is a very powerful tool.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Drafting
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Admiral)
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    Hi, I remember doing GCE Woodwork at school 3 exams one was technical drawing so I can do the basics.
    Roy
    ๐Ÿ“ Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    In just a short while, all these sails were made on my sewing machine by trying to improve with each sail.

    If I were to attempt this by hand sewing, my arthritis in my right hand would have flared up for sure!

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ RossM ( Commander)
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    PhilH

    Is a male who sews a

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ Mike Stoney ( Rear Admiral)
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    Hey Ronald!
    You're not just a boat builder, you're a tailor too!
    How to use the sewing machine . . . Great!
    I still have two shirts to sew and my elbows are worn through from tinkering.
    Can you do that too?
    Joking aside, you can do it!
    Best regards
    Michel-C.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PhilH ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Cracking job top marks we will make a seamstress of you yet ๐Ÿ‘.
    Philuk๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง JohnJ1 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Getting better every time.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Made all these sails
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Practice makes perfect Ron๐Ÿ‘
    If at first ...๐Ÿ˜

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    ๐Ÿ“ Added height to Gunnels
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I added height to the skiff Gunnels as suggested. They donโ€™t take away from the design and will add protection from wave action.

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    Ron

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Added height to Gunnels
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Nice Ron!!!
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Added height to Gunnels
    4 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ chugalone100 ( Lieutenant)
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    Great desicion.
    It looks like they have always been there.
    Itโ€™s crazy how sometimes we look at our finished model and say: โ€œI should have done thatโ€.
    Your addition to the model looks perfect.
    ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    ๐Ÿ“ Second sail is much better !๐Ÿ˜
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Changed technique and it worked fine, in the shop, (we got 4โ€ of snow this morning)

    ๐Ÿ“ My First Cotton Poplin Sail
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    My first try at making a Cotton sail today, using an old Brother sewing machine. No wonder my daughter -in-law gave up sewing, this machine is not user friendly.

    The thread broke four times! The thread didnโ€™t just stop at the needle, no the thread made its way into moving parts inside the cover. I had to remove the cover three times to find the thread, after each time the thread broke.

    Next, to thread the needle required me to squint through magnifying lenses! My goodness it was fun when all the bugs were worked out.

    Thankfully my wife was full of patience today,๐Ÿ˜ . But, I have not graduated to use her Bernina yet she told me.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: My First Cotton Poplin Sail
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง JohnJ1 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Think I'll stick to hand stitching; tedious, but more or less completely under my control.
    This may be teaching my grandmother, etc., but are you aware of the item in the attached photo? Can't remember what it's called, needle threader or something, but it's a godsend for tired old eyes like mine. Got mine from Amazon. (word of warning: don't buy the really cheap ones. I bought 250 for ยฃ1.50 or thereabouts, and every one I tried fell apart instantly.) Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know.
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: My First Cotton Poplin Sail
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ RossM ( Commander)
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    Did you get it to finally cooperate, Ron?
    ๐Ÿ“ Making sails with cotton poplin
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Since my last post, foot boards have been added. Seats on each side below lee rails, aft seat is in place but not glued.

    Toying with a micro tower mini servo. It has the torque to handle the rudder though not sure if that will be the final option.

    Plus added the sail servo.

    Sail is a paper pattern to create a cloth sail. I will try it, since it is an untested model, I am doing a main first, test it. Add a jib, test it.

    If it works well, I may try enlarging the main by adding a top sail.

    Leaving the original 18โ€ boom until all tests are completed.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Making sails with cotton poplin
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง luckyduck ( Lieutenant)
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    In connection with your question on lee rails, and water coming over the side in a gust of wind. It depends how authentic you want to be to the skif design - there are very many sailing dinghies in real life where water is always coming over the side in varying quantities. I used to sail an International Moth, which always took a lot of water on, and therefore had no transom, to ensure water just ran away. Others are not quite so severe and have a self bailing system. An option for you might be to build some scuppers in to allow water to run back out as the skif returns more upright? Or a hidden bilge pump?
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Making sails with cotton poplin
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง JohnJ1 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Looking good.
    Got the book, btw, quite daunting. I daresay there will be a method which suits me better than what's shown in the book. I hope so, anyway.
    Also, I note, your model is a 150% scale model of the skiff as published
    ๐Ÿ“ Water Testing in Bathtub
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    First I filled the tub with warm water, did a hull test, then added bath bubbles and used the water myself.

    The boat is very light, I put two shampoo bottles inside it and the water barely reaches the edge of the hullโ€™s side at the widest . There is minimal water inside the centreboard tunnel.

    No leaks during the testing. This hull is broad aft of the beam. Someone asked me about the centreboards, the person made two, one a bit narrower, both are hollow and filled with weight. I chose the wider one to do the water test as if is heavier.

    The dog, looking comfy, watches me in the work room.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Water Testing in Bathtub
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Cashrc ( Admiral)
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    Really want to see her on the water..nice find!
    ๐Ÿ“ 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Ronald ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Bought this almost complete scratch built sprit sailing skiff for 50$. The person made every part following the instructions from a book. The model is 30โ€ LOA with an 8โ€ Beam. Came with mast, two rudders, one for display and one for sailing. Also two weighted hinged drop down centreboards, each a different weight.

    The builder had in mind to make it RC . It is white cedar and very light weight.

    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง roycv ( Admiral)
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    Hi Ronald nice to see a well made model, worth more than the $50 paid and I presume the builder is no longer able to continue? But it sounds as if it is the right hands now for the model's future.
    Look forward to seeing her sail.

    I would hope my models get into the hands of someone who will use and appreciate the work put into them.
    regards
    Roy
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง JohnJ1 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Ron. Liked the look of the boat, so I've ordered the book.
    Thanks for that.๐Ÿ˜Š
    John
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ jumpugly ( Vice Admiral)
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    Gorgeous boat Ron! And a very sturdy build to boot! Excellent!!!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜‰
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง PhilH ( Sub-Lieutenant)
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    Should make a nice model.
    Philuk๐Ÿ‘
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ AustinG ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    really well built and great workshop.

    AustinG
    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: 30โ€ Skiff
    5 months ago by ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น AlessandroSPQR ( Admiral)
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    Another great purchase and very interesting project Ron. I will follow your work and improvements as always.


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