Swallow - the most famous dinghy?

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Swallow - the most famous dinghy?

This is a kit from Clyde Model Dockyard of Swallow - from the stories of Swallows and Amazon

https://www.clydemodeldockyard.com/shop/p/clinker-boat-model-kit

It could be argued that this is the most famous dinghy in the world? The kit is very well designed and manufactured. However, there is minimal advice about making it into a RC sailing model which I want to do. The kit was featured in the April edition of Model Boats magazine here in the UK - although the model was well made in the article it was not a sailing model.
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  1. NickthesteamSilver
    Rear Admiral
    @AndyB2 I only mentioned it because the reviewer in Model Boats mag said he bust a few ribs whilst removing them from the carrier sheet. It will be a while before I start mine but I plan on using the Seagul outboard. An old mate had one, we used to go hunting in Scotland and the boat came in handy to get us across Loch Garry, to the place where we used to stay...
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  2. chugalone100Silver
    Commodore
    Andy:I must say this is a beautifully designed kit and a very refreshing approach to clinker construction. The graceful hull lines, the lapstrake planking detail, and the overall presentation immediately capture the character of a traditional working dinghy.

    What impressed me most is the thought that clearly went into simplifying what is normally a very demanding building process. The pre-cut planking system and comprehensive instructions appear to make this type of construction far more approachable without sacrificing authenticity or appearance.

    It is wonderful to see companies like [Clyde Model Dockyard](https://www.clydemodeldockyard.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) continuing the tradition of high-quality maritime model kits inspired by classic British boats and maritime heritage.

    A truly elegant little model and a credit to the designers. ⚓
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Planking Complete

The planking is complete - used "superglue" but didn't rush and did it over a couple of days. Some observations :

You can never have enough clamps - a variety of sizes
Holding the planks down on the transom needs thinking about - I used a small "sash" type clamp
Getting the planks to hold in tight at the bow is also difficult found it best to do one side - let it dry - then the other.
Replaced the risers with one piece of spruce

Next job - use some West Epoxy in side the transom and bow to make a strong joint. Also create a small fillet on the out side where the planks come into the stem.

Although not local to myself - I have relatives near by - can recommend Al's Hobbies in Milton Keynes - a real model shop with a good range of materials, especially small section wood in 900mm lengths - plus lots of other "stuff"

https://alshobbies.co.uk/
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  1. Willem
    Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class
    @AndyB2
    Hy Andy,

    Please keep us informed of your progress.
    My new project is a Crotch Island Pinky. I will have the same problems as you concerning the sailing.
    I'll try to keep a build report.

    Cheers Willem
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  2. Razor1955
    Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class
    @AndyB2 This looks to be a superb model though possibly a little beyond my ageing capabilities. Well done to the manufacturers for creating this kit - definitely something that will interest many boaters.

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Benches and Lockers

Used a card template to make some sides to the benches out of thin ply - to make lockers to house the batteries and receiver. Theses should be glued in place and I think the door under the rear bench will also be permanently fixed. The bench top will be removable - haven't yet decided how these will be fixed down.

The rudder servo fits in the rear locker and will use a rod to control the rudder. The rear bulkhead will have some slots cut in it so leads can be run between the different components.

Have added some West epoxy in the both the bow and stern.
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  1. ChrisF
    Vice Admiral
    When I was doing the drawings for my Fisherman motor sailer I was going to have a fin keel bolted to a brass keel but I was told this wouldn't work as it would break at this point due to the forces from the sails.

    I did point out that the forces wouldn't be that great as the sail area is quite small and it would only be used in light winds but the experts convinced me otherwise. Since then I've seen a few examples of bolt on keels, including one at a show and so wished I'd persisted.

    I'm now using a keel as used on the DF65 yacht and much modified mounting which does take up more space internally.
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  2. RossM
    Captain
    @ChrisF
    Chris, does your keel joint attach directly to the keel or does it pass through the keel to be supported by a trunk internally?
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Gunwales - fitted

Used lengths of spruce - which bent around the gunwale without the need for any "steaming"
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  1. chugalone100Silver
    Commodore
    @AndyB2
    Beautiful work.
    The spruce has taken that curve incredibly well without any steaming at all.
    The lines of the hull look smooth and natural, and the clean framing detail really shows the quality of the craftsmanship.
    It’s amazing how light clamps, careful fitting, and good wood selection can produce such an elegant result.
    This is shaping up to be a stunning model.
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Mainsheet Operation - a test

The idea is that the mainsheet is operated via a servo housed under the thwart. This housing is designed so it is easy to remove. The sheet is run through the eye in the boat and servo arm so to give a 2:1 ratio and this seems to give enough travel, also the servo seems to provide enough power to hold the sheet quite tightly.

Although the housing is not waterproof - it should keep the servo reasonably safe - this is not going to be a "heavy weather" boat.
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  1. chugalone100Silver
    Commodore
    @Ronald
    This is shaping up to be a beautiful build.
    The hull lines are exceptionally fair and smooth, and the planking work looks first-rate.
    The brass keel arrangement is a clever solution, and I’m looking forward to seeing how the removable fin keel comes together.

    A white hull with a subtle waterline would really highlight the elegant shape of the boat.
    The varnished woodwork already gives it a very professional appearance. Outstanding craftsmanship and attention to detail! 👏⛵️
    Jul
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  2. AndyB2
    Warrant Officer
    @Ronald
    Thanks - in the original book - Swallow never had a centreboard, while Amazon did have one and therefore its windward performance was much better and this was discussed in the book, with "captain John Walker" expressing his frustration when trying to sail against the Blacketts in Amazon. For those who haven't read the book - the original film made in 1974 is quite a good representation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallows_and_Amazons_(1974_film)

    the more recent 2016 film does not follow the original story and is disappointing - at least the H&S zealots didn't make the actors wear life jackets

    Remember : BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS IF NOT DUFFERS WONT DROWN
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Two Coats of Varnish

The photos show how the side benches have been boxed in and the rudder operation, which is via a link - 2mm dia plastic rod - to the servo which is under the rear bench.
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  1. chugalone100Silver
    Commodore
    @AndyB2
    Andy, every update reveals another layer of craftsmanship.
    The interior framing, bench work, and rudder setup are all executed with remarkable precision.
    A truly museum-quality model.
    Congrats

    Jul
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  2. ChrisF
    Vice Admiral
    RossM - Sorry I didn't see your question until now. It seems that if comments are made against older posts in a thread then that thread isn't highlighted in Trending Now or Latest Discussions. It was just by luck that I was looking back through the thread.

    Chris, does your keel joint attach directly to the keel or does it pass through the keel to be supported by a trunk internally?

    In my Fisherman it's the latter as I was warned off attaching directly to the keel. I'm sure that I could have come up with something that did the job given that the loads wouldn't be that great, compared with a full-on yacht. But there are benefits in taking the drop keel up higher, or even to the deck (as is common with yachts and the mast down to the keel as you then have a strong construction that acts as one and spreads the loads.
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Painting

Here's some snaps after the hull has been painted. Still need to add the wear plates for the rowlocks. Have made a start on the removable fin keel. When this is completed I'll add the RC equipment and spars etc, before doing a float test in the bath to make a judgement about how much ballast is needed.

Have still to decide what to do about a waterline or different colour for the underside.
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  1. chugalone100Silver
    Commodore
    @AndyB2 Here's a complimentary response you could send to Andy:

    That is looking absolutely superb! The hull lines are beautiful, and the paint finish really brings out the classic character of the boat. The contrast between the white hull and the natural wood interior is especially striking—it looks both elegant and authentic.

    I'm also impressed by the quality of your workmanship inside the hull. The framing, planking, seating arrangement, and locker details are all exceptionally clean and well executed. It's one of those models that looks just as impressive on the inside as it does from the outside.

    Your plan for the removable fin keel sounds very sensible. The bath test should give you a good indication of the ballast requirements before committing to the final setup. It will be interesting to see how she trims once the RC gear, spars, and rigging are installed.

    From these photos, it already looks like a museum-quality build. I can only imagine how impressive she will be under sail.

    Thanks for sharing the progress pictures. I am really enjoying following this project and looking forward to seeing the next stage.

    Best regards,

    Julian
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The detachable keel

The original Swallow was a sailing boat, so I wanted this model also to sail. This does bring some problems, as its not possible to scale down wind and waves. The rudder is to scale and possibly too small but will initially leave it and see how the boat sails, if needed I'll just make another with a larger blade.

The model instructions suggests the long keel can be "metal", so I made this from a piece of 1/4 by 1/2 inch brass. This does give some weight low down but not enough for the boat to sail. An option would be to use another piece of brass the same size and attach this to the bottom of the boat and with some ballast inside the boat, under some boards could be a solution but possibly wouldn't work that well.

Next option would be a dagger board case, in front of the central thwart, as found on a Mirror dinghy, then make a removable keel from some 3mm aluminium sheet, with the lead cast on the end. Another idea would be to fit a piece of brass tube through the keel and thwart, so a keel could be held in place. This design is widely used on model yachts. Both these ideas would really need to be considered at the start of the build and also change the inside appearance of the boat.

So the final design is made from a piece 1/4 inch sq brass, with two 3mm dia brass rods, threaded each end. The keel is made up of separate pieces of wood, with two thin pieces of ply that on the outside that are a tight fit over the boat's keel, which has two M3 tapped holes, so machine screws can be used to hold the assembly in place.

The ballast weight will be cast lead and this will be drilled so it fits over the extended lengths of the brass rods. The benefit of this design is that its fore and aft position can be adjusted as can the lead ballast so the trim of the boat can be adjusted. Certainly sailing downwind, there is a requirement to prevent the hull from nose diving. The design also allows for the keel to be removed and for the boat to still look as the original. The next task is to do a test float in the bath and judge how much ballast is needed, as well as the boat's trim. The keel seems quite secure on the hull - see photos.

Hope this all makes sense !
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Sail Plan

This is a paper template - may need to explore the need for a parrel loop on the gaff.

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