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    Piscataqua river gundalow
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    ๐Ÿ“ Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Piscataqua river gundalow

    Some time ago I was preparing an article for modelers who used to sail with RC sailboat models .This article was to make known the types of sailboats practically unknown in our country.
    ย On this occasion, I have practically discovered that, for example, Thames sailing barges still exist - even if they are few and increasingly costly to maintain.
    While collecting the materials, a friend lent me a book about Thames sailing barges. On the Internet I searched the site > modelbarge info < operated by Richard Chesney(sorely not functional now) . I managed to get more materials, and this eventually led me to build two models TSBยจ(TSB Capricorn and TSB Gusty Cat - (Tomcat))
    ย In my archive, after many years, I pulled out a book that I received from a friend in New York >American ship models< by V.R.Grimwood > where there are many other interesting types of sailboats, but this time in the US.
    I started writing an article about really another rarity - Piscataqua River Gundalow. In this book there are other rarities, for example < Chesapeake Bay skipjack,Chesapeake Bay Bugeye, Scow schooner and more next vessels> but gundalow looked the most bizarre .. outside the shape that resembles a large surfboard (about 18 to 20 m long), so it has a Latin sail.
    More information about gundalow can be found on the web, in the above-mentioned book by V.R. Grimwood and also in the magazine> Ships in scale (11-12 1998).

    http://www.gundalow.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Wooden_Bo...
    GUNDALOW - THE WORK HORSE OF THE RIVERS
    June 2008 (a short excerpt from the next article as info)
    ย The conditions in the shallow tidal basin area around Portsmouth, New Hampshire and Maine were a special case.Piscatqua River, and on its network of tributaries and the shallow Great Bay, which is seven miles upstream. The upstream towns were engaged in agriculture and manufacturing. Domestic and foreign imports arrived at Portsmouth on ships too large to navigate the Piscataqua River.. Portsmouth was their access to markets. The condition of roads at the time made them a last resort choice for transporting cargo, and not a choice at all in mud and snow seasons. Manufacturers and seasonal crop farmers needed more reliable transportation.
    The solution was a simple shallow draft vessel that could reach these growing river ports. A barge in its earliest configuration, the gundalow was poled over the shallows, rode the tide in and out of the Piscataqua, was rowed with long oars called sweeps, and later carried a large sail.The gundalows were simply built, many were little more than rafts. Some were 70 feet long and built to protect the cargo.They were not sea vessels. The sails where rigged on a short stout mast, about 12 feet above deck. The lateen sail was rigged much like the Dhows of the Red Sea and Middle East. The long boom, in some cases 70โ€™, could easily be lowered for passing under bridges. The boom was hung on a chain from the top of the mast, about a quarter of its length from the boomโ€™s forward end. Balanced there, the forward end was secured to the deck with block and tackle near the bow. The aft end of the boom, pivoted on the top of the mast was raised above deck at about 45 degrees.

    The Fanny M., launched from Adamโ€™s Point in Durham, NH in 1886 by Captain Edward H. Adams, was the last gundalow to operate commercially in the area
    No gundalow has been preserved, but two replicas were built (1982 "Captain Edward H. Adams" and in 20011 - "Piscataqua")

    When I finished both models, I wondered what to do next ... so I started to build gundalow model.
    The model is approximately 1:24 scale, 90 cm long, 24 cm wide.
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    https://www.fishermensvoice.com/archives/0608gundalow.html
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    Building a Piscataqua River gundalow
    > Ships in scale /vol XI/Nr 6 1998 (november - december)
    http://www.gundalow.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Wooden_Boat_Article.pdf
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    first I drew up a plan from the book in the desired magnification. At first I thought about making a model from extruded PolyStyrene. Finally I used plywood and for the main part of the model I used a slightly modified way of building, which uses R. Chesney for its models of boats...the middle part of the model is such a box.
    Since gundalow has no keel, just a leeboard, I decided to use proven variants with a central keel (how it is at my TSB models)

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    next steps
    I made a large yard (90cm) before. Its base is a pine beam 10x10mm reinforced at the bottom end with spruce beams 5x5 mm, grinded all the way to the conus,the yard is then fitted with 2x3 mm spruce strips at the lower end to prevent abrasion.
    I turned a short mast of beechwood.
    I already have a sail (Ripstop nylon)
    Next I glued the front and back keel, and finally the deck (3 mm poplar plywood)

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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Looking very good. Probably one of the most interesting and unusual models we've seen for a while. Well done Tomas.

    Cheers,
    Nerys

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    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Yesterday I started to glue Styrofoam blocks to the hull, today I continued.my fingers are all black from polyurethane glue.I tried to use thin gloves made of thin polyethylene, but they were more of a hindrance to my work, and then everything was dirty with glue.Now I have to wait at least until tomorrow.
    Tom
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tomas,
    I am not normally in to sailboats but i am finding your build log interesting.
    keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    9 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    Hi Tomas, I have found Black nitrile gloves very good,these are extensively used by tattoo artists and are reasonably priced for a box .
    Really nice build.
    Cheers Marky
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks Marky for info,I'll ask for the gloves in the drugstore.
    Today I grind roughly the hull and glued the ps into the gaps.Continuing perhaps tomorrow.
    Grinding polystyrene is an immortal experience .. preferably outdoors and in strong winds. I did it in the workshop and looked like a snowman ...

    cheers
    Tom
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    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Today I finished sanding the hull and put a layer of putty.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Piscataqua river gundalow
    9 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    next article you can find here >
    https://harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/river-runs

    https://www.fishermensvoice.com/archives/0608g
    undalow.html
    https://harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/river-runs
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    9 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Have read a few of the articles frpm Fisherman's Voice. Very interesting and informative. I was very interested in the Schooner Racing and Dory Fishing articles.

    Interesting article about the Gundalow too. Waiting to see your model under sail Tomas.

    Cheers,
    Nerys
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    No news at present..
    I am repeatedly grinding and puttying the hull of the model ..It seems to me endless work, it is still not the ideal state to paint

    cheers,
    Tom
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    8 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    I agree with you Tom to get a decent Finnish for painting seems to take forever.
    Keep going you will get there.

    Martin555.
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    8 months ago by Colin H ( Captain)
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    The only thing not In the instructions, is the amount of patience needed.
    Its the secret ingredient for success.
    And looking back over this log, it appears that you have loads.
    Keep up the good work.
    Cheers Colin.
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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    I think that a coat of paint, thoroughly dried, before sanding can help in achieving a good finish. If working with wood, a coat of sealer, paint or varnish raises the grain on bare wood and that needs to be sanded, recoated, sanded, often several times before a finish can be achieved.

    Nerys.
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    I continue with grinding and puttying.
    I need a larger layer of putty due to the rough surface of GRP and fewer inaccuracies . Putty has yelowish color and my surfacer is pure white..maybe it would be good to spray the hull in a contrasting colour, then reuse the putty and grind.Used putty hardens very slowly, after puttying have to wait at least until the next day ...
    Tom
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    8 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    You can definitely see a massif change already.
    Keep going you are doing well.

    Martin555.
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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Is there any reason why you use putty as a filler? I would have thought that a resin based filler would be more satisfactory and setting harder makes a finish easier to achieve. I know what putty is like to use, it was all we had years ago and my main use for it was the final filler on a caulked seam on a carvel built boat. Of course, I do not know what is available easily in your country, but I would have thought there was something easier to use than putty. Sorry, perhaps I'm being too critical.

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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    OK,I was offered polyester putty in various modifications, I had to refuse. It smells very stiff when used, and I'm afraid I can't explain it to the people in our house.
    For puttying before lamination, I used acrylic sealant.
    I could use epoxy with a filler (fine wood sawdust) but it is too hard when used on soft ground.I used a special nitro putty to seal the hull of my second Thames sailing barge "Gusty Cat", but unfortunately it was not in the range of local drugstores... The putty I am using now is similar to Tamiya putty for plastic kits.
    Tom

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    8 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Nerys
    "Is there any reason why you use putty as a filler?"
    Bear in mind that that is a Google 'translation' from Tom's original Czech!
    You have to read between the lines a bit with Tom's posts๐Ÿ˜‰
    Products like 'Plastic Putty' also confuse the issue a bit.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    8 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    If you look at Toms previous photo of the hull the tin looks a bit like appoxy filler.
    Great build Tom .
    Cheers Marky
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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Sorry, I stand corrected for taking things too literally.

    Nerys
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    8 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "a decent Finnish for painting seems to take forever."
    Yep, those chaps up North seem to have endless patience Martin๐Ÿ˜
    Must be something to do with those long months with no sun!!
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    8 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    BTW Nerys,
    If it's any consolation - I also used Revel Plastic Putty to fix the final small blemishes on my fish cutter. Quicker and not so much waste as mixing another batch of polyester filler.๐Ÿ˜Š
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    As you probably realised I was thinking of traditional linseed oil putty, especially as Tomas said that it took a day to harden.

    Nerys
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    8 months ago by Rookysailor ( Commander)
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    I also use Revell plastic putty Doug, but have you ever tried Squadron Green or white putty/filler? a little expensive, but easy to use.๐Ÿ˜

    Cheers, Pete
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    putty that I use is probably some synthetics, destined for synthetic colors, no linseed putty.
    I tried to spray the hull for another grinding, and I got quite angry. It was supposed to be reddish brown (RAL 3002), but there was some raspberry color in the spray.The original color should be "Indian Red", but I didn't find anything like that in RAL. I tried to compare the color of the hull "Piscataqua" on the net with the RAL sampler on the net. (due to similar color distortion on the monitor). I got RAL 3002.(see sample)..you can compare ..
    Then I saw another sampler - probably it should be RAL 3009 (3011)..
    Tom

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    8 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    It might have been a bit darker if a red primer or Black primer had been used .
    Cheers Marky.
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    I'll try to buy reddish-brown tomorrow.
    I grinded the hull, then sprayed the red paint, grinding, putty again, grinding and spraying now gray paint as primer.. I still need ammonia to soften the wooden beams designed as a low rail at the edge of the deck.
    I also prepare plywood for a new light fin for gundalow (about 850 grams)
    Cheers
    Tom
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    8 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    It is definitely a lot of hard work but it will be worth it in the end.
    You are getting there keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    well .. it is not an ideal condition, but even in the night I grind in my dreams ..
    Tom
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    8 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    It won't be long now and you will be able to have sweet dreams again.

    Martin555.
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    some next words about Piscataqua gundalow you can find here => http://www.gundalow.org/about-us/what-is-a-gundalow/

    Today I visited another store and chose a suitable shade of color for the model hull.
    When I came home, I found out that I bought the same color, but from another manufacturer. I got angry and finally tried to spray the RAL 3003 on the model on a gray background. It's not such a raspberry color as before , but a little darker .. ruby shade. Other colorย  I won't buy anymore. .. now I have red color for at least 5 models -digital camera did not take the right shade again, in fact it is at least half darker..

    Tom
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    yesterday I glued spruce beams 2x10 aboard.
    I thought I'd simplify my work when I trim already glued beams, but it looks like I'm going to have work even more. Now the next step will be to paint the deck with epoxy-
    I had to glue a few beams again today and then cut off the overlapping bits.more or less I'm ready to paint the deck with epoxy (partially diluted with acetone) for better wood saturation by epoxy .
    Tom
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    Hi,
    today I sanded the edge of the deck and painted the deck with diluted epoxy. Now I have to wait until the resin solidifies. I painted with epoxy also fin from plywood 6mm and plywood "skeleton" superstructure.
    greetings
    Tom
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    8 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    That is really looking nice now.
    You are doing a fantastic job.
    well done.

    Martin555.
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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    I've been looking at pictures and reading about these craft in various publications and on line. They are certainly very interesting like many other traditional American sailing craft. It's going to be most interesting to see how your completed model sails.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    8 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    I'm also curious about how the model will sail. Against the Thames barges, the gundalow of the same size has maybe a smaller sail area. On the other hand, she has the advantage (in my opinion) of better aerodynamics of the Latin sail. I'm not the first one to built model gundalow, but I've never seen such a floating and radio-controlled model.
    Today I glued coamings and put on the deck another epoxy layer.
    Against the barges where the cargo was carried in the hold, gundalows carried cargo on board. The deck could to be asphalted over to prevent damage from deck loads (e.g. coal)that that had to be moved with shovels. Because I need easier access to the hull of the model, I decided to make a classic cargo space design like a barge but with the difference that it will be camouflaged as a load of wood ...
    Greetings
    Tom

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    8 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    At least you will be able to compare the sailing abilities of the Gundalow with your two beautifully built Thames Barges. The Lateen is a very powerful sail with a lot of lift, but the barge's rig is very efficient with proportionally a lot more sail area and there is a huge amount of power in the topsail. Interesting comparisons. My bet is on the barge, but I'm prejudiced.

    Cheers, Nerys.
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    7 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    today I made steering stand. Somehow I misjudged the height of trestles,( the rudder axis is too oblique) in the worst case I have to make a new stand ..

    Well - today I tried it again, everything is ok, on the model is the axis of the rudder horizontal.
    UFF ...

    Tom
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    Hi,
    today I finished other parts - helm stand, cab and main hatch cover, disguised as a load of boards, covered with tarpaulin(These ships usually had a flat deck to carry cargo. One of the reasons could be that the hull was not tight enough, and water leaked into it. Especially when the ship was carrying more cargo and had a greater draft than usual, and at the hull plank were dry and leaking..). I still have to finish some details on board (low bulwarks before all) and then mount the engine, rudder, and electronics... and plenty of next details ..

    > PF 2020 <

    greetings
    Tom
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    7 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    Looking Good Tom .
    Cheers Marky
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    7 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Very nice Tom.
    Keep up the good work.

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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi gents,
    recently I have advanced a bit.

    the next step was to produce a low railing (bulwarks) around the deck. I used spruce beams 5x5 mm, but I had to cut and bend them first in the template. In order to bend these beams, I soaked them in 40% ammonia water. After 24 hours, the timber was sufficiently soft.,
    I used a piece of plastic water pipe for wetting the beams, and I used wine corks for closures.
    After inserting the beams (outside the house) I poured ammonia water and closed the pipe.
    The next day I pulled the beams (again outside the house), then rinsed in the water and let them air. It was quite a powerful experience. Till to the next day I left the beams soaked in clean water only - then they could be worked in the workshop. So I gave it to a template.
    ย After drying the beams I gradually attached them to the edge of the deck, where the already had the middle part of the straight beams.
    In this middle section, before glueing, I made holes to drain water from the deck.
    Today I grinded the bulwark a little and applied putty. .. Again grinding and puttying await me.
    In principle, I can say that I have a rough construction finished....
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    6 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    Very nice Tom ,the ammonia will have kept your head nice and clear .
    Cheers Marky๐Ÿ‘
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    6 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    You are making a lovely job of your gundalow Tomas and really coming on well. I'm sure you are beginning to see an end to your labours and are looking forward to the great day when you launch her and see her under sail. I think we are all looking forward to that.

    Nerys
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi ya,
    Marky -it's a very strong smell, so I don't have to have a directly clear head...once ammonia was used here to revive - when someone fainted..
    Nerys--you're 100% right, but I'm still grinding and applying putty.
    in the meantime, I'll do the details, the leeboard is ready for spraying, I just glued the fittings . Imitation of rivets I do in the holder.
    The cog wheel is actually a feed wheel for punched tape in old computers. It has a suitable spacing of 3 mm and the teeth have a suitable circular cross-section. I also have a mast prepared with a chain for the yard; I have pulleys for brails on it. The mast will be pulled out together with yard during transport.
    Tom
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    6 months ago by marky ( Captain)
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    Great idea for doing the rivets .๐Ÿ‘
    Looking Good .
    Cheers Marky
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    This method is mainly used by modelers who build plastic model kits of aircraft. Here this is a somewhat modified method where you need to see the heads of the rivets. As far as I have seen, a number of ship modelers also use it, especially in imitation of rivets on copper plating on old sailboat models (e.g. HMS Victory).
    Greetings!
    Tom
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hiya,
    still puttying and grinding.
    I have a fin ready to complete with lead halves of last light lead bomb .
    Fin will have to be put together again and lightly grinded, then glued half of the load and on it I apply a layer of Epoxy reinforced with glass fibres .
    Meanwhile, I fixed the sail to the yard. / length = 90 cm/.
    Hopefully, I will be able to grind for the last time tomorrow.
    Greetings
    Tom
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    6 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Keep up the good work Tom.

    Martin555.
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    6 months ago by CaptLarry ( Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Your scratch build of the Lateen rigged barge is an outstanding accomplishment!
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    Thanks for the encouraging words. I have to say that all my models are scratchbuild. Basically I have no other option here, moreover - I like model building quite well, although I cannot aspire to the best model. Itยดs a life ...
    Today I decided to start spraying the model, meanwhile just surfacer and white paint on bulwarks.
    Tom
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    Today I sprayed the hull with red (ruby) paint, unfortunately, the original shade - Indian red can not get anywhere here.
    But I think it will be enough. Anyway, Iโ€™m going to spray a few more times,ย  and after testing in the tub, I mark the waterline and then spray the bottom with black paint. Today I tested the rigging to check for any defects too.
    I found that the yard must be suspended even higher. Finally, I shortened the chain( yard suspension) to the maximum.
    If that wasn't enough, I would have to make a higher mast.
    As for the size of the sail, I'm still not sure how it will sail, especially compared to Thames sailing barges.
    now I have to install the motor and electronics
    Tom
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    6 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice work Tom,
    Looking forward to seeing it in the water.

    Martin555.
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Martin,
    I'm afraid it will be a long way yet ...
    Tom
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    Today I tested the model in the bathtub. The empty model (hull itself) has a draft of 2 cm (weight 2.9 kg). The model with 3.2 kg weight (it is the heaviest lead bulb fin from sb Capricorn) has a 4.5 cm draught (total weight 6,1 kg). With a weight of about 7 kg, it has a draft of 5 cm.I assume the total weight of the model with gear around 6 kg, so I will place the waterline 4.5 cm from the bottom on the side.
    I hope it will be with reserve.
    The model is still drying, probably took water while handling ... plop ....
    Tom
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    6 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    today I had to make a transport pedestal for the model.
    As I look at the gundalow model with sail, it reminds me quite of Bermuda rig (oldest version) with masts tilted backwards or old boats from Chesapeake Bay (skipjack, bugeye) , rather than correct lateen rig ...
    Tom
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    5 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    since the last visit, I have advanced a bit, sprayed the model in black under the waterline, attached the engine to a detachable inclined base (with velcro), attached a leeboard and side iron bar. that prevents it from breaking (when the wind comes again its windward side).
    I glued and laminated fin keel (GRP) and sprayed with black and red paint.
    I made the base for the servo made of Al sheet, and fixed it in the model. I made the Main horse out of the brass wire (2mm dia) and sprayed it in black. Due to its location above the cabin it must be removable (wire frame is soldered to the base of Cuprextit). I fixed the lower bearing of the rudder and prepared the fiberglass parts.
    I glued the Velcro pieces to the base in the cabin and to the bottom of the Rx and ESC boxes. Now I have to finish a lot of details ... it's going slowly.
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    5 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent work Tom ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    And a great tutorial for me.๐Ÿ˜‰
    I can use some of your methods on my Danish Fish Cutter restoration and conversion to RC๐Ÿ˜Š
    Keep it up ๐Ÿ‘
    Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    5 months ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    She is looking great Tom.
    Well done.

    Martin555.
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    5 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Thanks guys, when I sprayed model with paint, all the defects of puttying and grinding appeared. But I have already given up - somehow failed - these problems I did not have in previous models. But the fact is, I used another(for model barges more expensiv) putty.

    Tom
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    5 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    On my fish cutter, which was a real wreck, I used fine auto polyester filler for the worst parts.
    Then primer paint, which showed up the remaining small defects.
    And used Revell Plastic Putty to fix those.
    See attached Before and After pics.

    Anyway, small defects in a working boat are normal and true to life so don't worry๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    5 months ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    Think you have done a brilliant job of a most unusual vessel. She looks really good and I do hope performs as well as you anticipate. It's great to see a model so different from the general run of things. As you say, it will be interesting to see how she performs compared with your model barges, but bear in mind, the real things were very different.

    Cheers, Nerys
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    5 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    I have made little progress lately. I started to prepare parts for electrical connection. Basically, I just made the rudder . The rudder body is made of flat fiberglass (0.8 mm) with a slot for the rudder extension. On the outside is the rudder covered with "veneer" boards, which are impregnated epoxy. This was followed by gluing "ironwork" from Cu foil, and spraying with black paint. Due to the fact that it was necessary to make removable for possible repairs, so I laminated the brass couplings from the electrical terminal board from the front side.I do not like it, protruding screws will probably impair the efficiency of the propeller. But it was the simplest solution.On the underside, the rudder shaft is housed in a bearing in a fixed bracket that cannot be removed. Therefore the rudder shaft must be removable upwards.
    greetings
    Tom
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    5 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    Today I tried to connect new receiver Flysky, I had problems with binding, fortunately - after reading the instructions I finally succeeded.
    Experts read instructions as a last possibility
    ...
    The electrical wiring seems to work, I just had to grind the rudder from the top and around the propeller hub.
    I wondered what name to give to this strange vessel. I wrote at least 5o different names - from Maureen to Dafne, Feather, other Gallic names to Lizard, Tipsy .. and finally ended up at Caprice.
    Although I liked the name Roussalka too .. in our country Rusalky were forest and water nymphs
    from old tales, that danced on the full moon ..
    Roussalka (=> Rusalka) was the name of a steam yacht from about 1900 .. but who came to such a specific name. I don't know)
    Greetings
    Tom
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    4 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Today I can finally say that the Caprice model is complete in addition to a few details.I fixed the sheets and vangs of the mainsail. I have to try rc control again - and then just wait for "big water" in the pond in the park and nice weather.
    Greetings from (Moravian) Vallachian mountains Tom
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    4 months ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    "Roussalka (=> Rusalka) was the name of a steam yacht from about 1900 .. but who came to such a specific name. I don't know" ---> Walter Edward Guiness, First Lord Moyne.๐Ÿ˜‰

    Apparently Roussalka was originally built as SS Brighton in 1903.
    During WW1 she was used as a hospital ship. See pic.
    She was renamed Roussalka by W E Guiness (of dark beer fame?๐Ÿ˜‹) AKA Lord Moyne when he bought her in 1930 and converted her to a private yacht.
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Brighton_(1903)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Brighton_(1903)
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    4 months ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi Doug,
    thanks for infos.Very interesting, indeed!! It is true that I did not think to look into the Wiki at all.
    Greetings
    Tom
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,

    There is finally enough water in the lake in the park, but I have to wait again.

    Yesterday I was preparing my model Caprice (Piscataqua river gundalow) for her first maiden voyage. It's raining and the weather is damned cold, almost like March, not the end of May.

    Nicer weather should appear hopefully next week. I'm quite curious how the model will behave on the water... hopefully I will finally see.

    Pictured all my models - Caprice, tsb Gusty Cat and tsb Capricorn (all in scale 1:24)
    at the back on the shelf is my quarter wheeler Lulonga.

    Greetings

    Tom

    P.S.
    In the end, I replaced the purple foresail on the Gusty Cat model ..
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    1 month ago by billmcl61 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Tom,

    I've just come across your blog, and it was good to read it all from start to now.
    This is a very interesting and unusual boat and the history and background you've given us has kept me busy reading and researching for a good while.
    I'm looking forward to more and hopefully to see her on the water, well done.

    Bill
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    thanks for the rating. I really like the older sailboats and steamers with high smoking stacks , from a time, when the ships looked like ships and not shoeboxes.
    I do not dare to build complex models of ships, rather I am looking for - from today's point of view - some unusual or generally unknown constructions - as in this case Piscataqua river gundalow. I just hope I can still build some models of ships..time flies very fast for me ..
    In addition, the translator from Uncle Google is still correcting my writing, and if I don't pay attention for a while, he writes nonsense.
    Tom

    But now I turn a little away from the topic
    Pict. - my model Ned Kelly, my first and the last live steam model, Australian type steamer, according to the steamer Alexander Arbuthnot (Echuca / Moama, Murray river steamer, Australia).( echuca paddle steamers)
    ( echuca paddlesteamers
    https://www.echucapaddlesteamers.net.au/),
    https://www.murrayriverpaddlesteamers.com.au/
    P.S. The following interesting pages are intended for modellers and lovers of paddle steamers - http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/
    and brand news > Murray River Paddleboats >
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/260527864150656/
    https://www.echucapaddlesteamers.net.au/),
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    https://www.murrayriverpaddlesteamers.com.au/
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    http://www.paddleducks.co.uk/
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    https://www.facebook.com/groups/260527864150656/
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    The meteorological forecast said today that the sun will shine here for 3 hours after lunch. So I took the model with confidence, loaded it on the cart and drove to the park. The wind was very weak, so I had to help the engine several times. As usual, every first ride of my model ends in disaster. It ended with a jammed rudder and the RC equipment terminated service. Fortunately, it was by the shore, so I didn't have to go into the water.
    On the other hand, the model sailed quite well even in such a weak wind.
    Next time, maybe it will be better ...
    greetings
    Tom
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    1 month ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Bad luck Tom๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    She looks great on the water though๐Ÿ‘
    Hope you can find the problem and fix the RC gear without too much expense๐Ÿคž
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    1 month ago by billmcl61 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Tom,

    It looks great on the water, pity about the weak wind but maybe that was lucky with the teething problems ๐Ÿ˜Š. I'm sure that you will easily fix these minor issues.

    Bill
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    1 month ago by billmcl61 ( Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Tom,

    I know what you mean about google translator, I use Deepl which is a much better translator and is pretty good with grammar.

    Bill
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    thanks for the advice, I immediately tried DeepL, unfortunately he doesn't know the Czech language ..

    Tom
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Tom,
    Sorry to hear about your problem.
    I am sure you will sort it out in no time.

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Rear Admiral)
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    Nice collection Tom, I'll be interested to see how she sails.
    JB
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    1 month ago by Nerys ( Commodore)
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    She looks great on the water Tom. I'm sure, get the RC sorted out and a reasonable breeze and she'll do you credit. Really like seeing a model of something completely different. Once you get her sailing properly, I will be very interested to hear from you how she compares with your Thames Barges.

    All the best, Nerys
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    1 month ago by jbkiwi ( Rear Admiral)
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    Looks very nice on the water, hope you have a bit more wind next time.
    JB
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    1 month ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Excellent Tom.
    Would love to see a video of Ned Kelly chuffing along๐Ÿ‘
    Very well done.
    Cheers, Doug๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    I have a permanent problem with the wind - there are tall trees around the lake in the park. Now I do not have the opportunity to go with the models to more suitable water. When I was at the dam Vyrovice in South Moravia with Capricorn, there was a large body of water, but the wind still didn't blow...
    The river Beฤva, which flows through the city, usually has little water, so it is not possible to let a sailboat with a keel there.
    As for the steamer Ned Kelly, unfortunately, I have no video from its operation. After a long break, when I tried to get a more suitable boiler (the original boiler from Wilesco is really only for toys), I finally sold the model to my friend. For such models, it is necessary to have at least a lathe in the workshop equipment, which I do not have, and I will not buy it anymore ... it is a bit too late for me.
    Originally, it was supposed to be just a model for testing a steam engine. But when the money spent began to exceed a reasonable limit, it was more advantageous for me to build a straight model of an Australian steamer. That's when I got books and plans from Australia from penfriends. The only question was the name of the steamer - my friend Dick wrote to me ... why it couldn't be Ned Kelly (a well-known Australian robber). I thought ... why not, in the end ... so the steamer was named Ned Kelly.
    The last pictures - this is our river Beฤva, when it doesn't rain, there is little water in it, and a very strong current after the rain.
    It is not suitable for launching models ...
    ย greetings
    Tom
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Tom,
    Is there any way you could add extra sail area to your model.?

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    the problem with the RC gear solved himself,the device works..
    Martin, gundalow is a working ship before all,sailing with the tides, similar to Thames sailing barges in London.
    It can be seen from the pictures that a rather reduced area of the mainsail is used on the original of the vessel, no possibility to use next sails.(pictures are from the internet ).
    https://analesaharvey.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/the-piscataqu...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundalow
    > www.gundalow.orgpiscataqua gundalow Wikipedia (images)
    Tom
    https://analesaharvey.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/the-piscataqua-river-gundalow/
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    1 month ago by tomarack ( Warrant Officer)
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    Hi,
    I tried to make a clip from the Caprice Maiden voyage, unfortunately, problems with focusing, it is difficult to control the model with one hand and shoot the video with the other ..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa0tQnBr5s
    It's without sound .. I don't know what musical accompaniment to record so that I don't come across Copyright ..
    next time it may work better
    greetings
    Tom
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa0tQnBr5s
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    1 month ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Nice Tom,

    Would be much better if you had a bit more wind, but as you have said it is a bit sheltered there.
    Nice to see her on the water.

    Martin555.
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    1 month ago by philcaretaker ( Midshipman)
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    Terrific - great research and final result - Brilliant !!!
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    1 month ago by philcaretaker ( Midshipman)
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    A bit like my Wee Nip !!! - Grrrrrrreat job !!! - love it !!
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    1 month ago by philcaretaker ( Midshipman)
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    In Awe !! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Žโ›ต
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    1 month ago by philcaretaker ( Midshipman)
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    ๐Ÿ‘Well done !
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