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    Sea Queen Restoration
    by Sifi70 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    ๐Ÿ“ Advice on fine surface filler ?
    7 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Put on some undercoat today and Iโ€™ve got loads of imperfections,gaps and screw holes. Is theyโ€™re any specific type of filler best used for this ?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    14 hours ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Simon,
    Here's the link to my hull treatment of my Sea Scout renovation.
    Scroll down to
    The Lone Ranger Rides Again or Hull Finishing ;-))
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
    https://model-boats.com/blogs/28209#40050
    blogs/28209#40050
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    20 hours ago by Colin H ( Vice Admiral)
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    Well explained Doug, I agree with you on flaking car body filler. Using a fine grade polyester putty is easy and cleans up well.
    After 30 plus years renovating basket cases I never try for perfection as it removes the history of life from the model.
    Cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    1 day ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi SiFi,
    Afraid I can't endorse Seapray's advice re
    "Try and get the P 38 when it is really soft and spread a thin layer all the way along the model like a new skin."
    If you do that you'll be working backwards.
    You'll end up with more defects and sanding to do than you have now.
    Not only that, thin extended layers of filler have an irritating habit of flaking off over time, especially if they get knocked and banged.
    When I get to the stage that you have I use a very fine plastic putty, such as Revell, for the very small defects. For the larger ones, such as your screw heads I use a very fine polyester finishing filler.
    Check out my Sea Scout Jessica and Fish Cutter Gina 2 for examples of hull restorations - with generous dollops of patience as the main ingredient! ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Oh, and b4 I forget; apply filler with an old credit card - nice and flexible fills small pits and cracks easily without too much excess to have to sand back, and to boot it's easy to clean when the filler is hardened! Just flex it ๐Ÿ˜‰
    I rarely use an electric sander, and then only in the initial stages for shaping/flattening off the hull, or removing old paint etc, before any filling or priming commences.
    During priming, finishing filling, painting I use Tamiya wet/dry sanding sponges, in grades from 180/240 up to (or is that down to?) 3000 before the final lacquer coat.
    However you do your hull try to enjoy the process, you'll learn more๐Ÿ˜‰ and don't forget the patience ๐Ÿ‘
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    2 days ago by Seaspray ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Keep using the P 38 tackle each hole and imperfection separately. You just need a very light spray of primer/filler each time till you see the holes and imperfections are smooth. Once this is near enough perfect ( if there is such a thing) Try and get the P 38 when it is really soft and spread a thin layer all the way along the model like a new skin. Hopefully you have a little electric which helps a lot
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    2 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Ok cheers Geoff, Thanks for the Advice ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    2 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Looks like you got a lovely finish on yours Seaspray. Gives me a bit of confidence to keep going ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    3 days ago by mistyoptic ( Warrant Officer)
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    I use Wickes wood filler which works well and fills well and stays put. Easily sanded to fit its surroundings.

    Geoff
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    4 days ago by Seaspray ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    This what I was up against a bad resin job Got as much as the resin off gave up start with the p38 and filler primer. I got the goods from Halfords and the filler/primer had a yellow top
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    6 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Cheers Seaspray, I like the idea of a filler primer. I might pop out and get one of those tomorrow then and give that a try. I think Iโ€™ve got it to a nice smooth surface overall just these small splits and screw holes. Iโ€™ll keep going ๐Ÿ˜‰
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    6 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Hi Martin, No, no fibreglass. Iโ€™m just trying to get a reasonably smooth surface before painting to a gloss finish. I canโ€™t believe how many holes and cracks have appeared ๐Ÿ˜†
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    6 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Ok Rick cheers. Iโ€™ve got some fine surface filler now so Iโ€™ll sand it down with the grades you said. More bloody sanding ๐Ÿ™„. ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    6 days ago by mturpin013 ( Rear Admiral)
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    P38 is the best filler I've found
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    6 days ago by Seaspray ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    I.ve been using P38 for years. you don't really see the holes and rough surfaces till you spray with primer. then start again rub down and spray, I've also used a filler primer all got from Halfords. If its really rough I use a small electric sander. Sometimes its best to concentrate on the worst areas first.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sifi,
    It is amazing what shows up when you give it a coat of primer.
    I have used ordinary DIY wood filler and have had no problems.
    Are you planning on Fibreglassing the Hull ?

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Advice on fine surface filler ?
    7 days ago by Newby7 ( Rear Admiral)
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    As far as filler I have used car bondo and wood filler products.The best I can say is to be able to sand to a smooth finish using fine sand paper.The finer you use will
    give you the best result.Start with a low number 100 grit and move up to 1000 or more. The finer you go the smother the finish will.For me it is time and patents.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Done a bit more sanding and repaired the hole in the hull. Ive also test painted inside one of the bulkhead sections. Iโ€™m going to spray the hull this week in primer and see how it comes out and Iโ€™m thinking of having a go a planking the hull. Simon style so heavens knows how it will come out ๐Ÿคž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    6 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Ok Colin, I promise. Iโ€™m not that good anyway. Just want to remove some of the bad ones ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    6 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Lol. Ok Martin, Iโ€™ll do my best ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Colin H ( Vice Admiral)
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    Don't lose all the imperfections, that's part of the character of these vintage boats. Those little marks and imperfections tell the story.
    Cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Cheers, Thank god for electric sanders ๐Ÿคฃ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Sifi,
    I am looking forward to the next update.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Cheers Martin. Yes sheโ€™s coming up very nicely really considering her age. Going to try and put some undercoat on the hull now. That should show up the imperfections โ˜น๏ธ
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Hi Simon,
    It sounds like most of the horrible stuff is almost over and you can start to enjoy getting this great model back to how she should be.
    Great work.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Seaspray ( Chief Petty Officer 1st Class)
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    Like this model and it is all wood. Nice job there rubbing down
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Cheers Will & Rick. Yep, Iโ€™ll keep plugging away ๐Ÿ‘
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Madwelshman ( Warrant Officer)
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    Making good progress.
    It's going to be a nice boat when it's done.
    Keep up the good work.

    Will
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding ๐Ÿคฏ
    7 days ago by Newby7 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Simon take your time if you do plank and all will work out well.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ More Sanding
    20 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    More sanding today. Ive taken off the rubbing strake thing on the side, sorry if itโ€™s the incorrect description lol. Most of the windows are out and the portholes are now out.

    So now I will sand everything up top and start filling once done. Then Iโ€™ll move on to replacing the wood thatโ€™s been removed. Their are loads of little panel pins and tiny flat head screws in this model, itโ€™s been put together well. Now, do i re pin or use epoxy ?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding
    20 days ago by Martin555 ( Fleet Admiral)
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    Plenty more elbow grease required Sifi but she is coming along nicely.
    Keep up the good work.

    Martin555.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: More Sanding
    20 days ago by Newby7 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Big job ahead well done.Looks good so far.
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ“ Sea Queen Restoration
    22 days ago by Sifi70 ( Petty Officer 2nd Class)
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    Here we go then. My first Blog on my Sea Queen build which I purchased 2nd or 3rd hand yesterday off Facebook Marketplace. Lots of work in front of me and this is the 1st model Iโ€™ve ever tried to restore so please be patient lol. Got some shots of the internals now. Hoping to get back sanding the hull tomorrow. Wifeโ€™s had me painting the Garage today ๐Ÿ™„
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
    20 days ago by RNinMunich ( Fleet Admiral)
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    "Wifeโ€™s had me painting the Garage today ๐Ÿ™„ "
    Good practise Simon ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‰
    So far so good, at least you're getting through the elbow grease part.
    Heading towards the fun part - Masking ๐Ÿค” but then Pssst psst psst new colour spraying.
    Yeee Haaa! ๐Ÿ˜
    Patience is a virtue - AND a definite asset when restoring vintage wooden model boats!
    Ask me how I know ๐Ÿ˜ then ask Colin ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
    Cheers, Doug ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
    22 days ago by Madwelshman ( Warrant Officer)
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    That looks like a nice solid and quite clean example you've bought there. Mine had delamination of some bulkheads, not too bad a job to fix though.
    What's the plans regarding propulsion, electric, or i.c?
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
    22 days ago by Colin H ( Vice Admiral)
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    That's a good start to your project, doesn't look like there's any delamination so far and the interior is too clean to have had a diesel or glowplug engine so I think she had a large water cooled electric motor.
    Depending on the motor and esc you decide to fit the water pickup and outlet may be useful. I often use water cooled excess.
    Keep it up shipmate, cheers Colin.
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Re: Sea Queen Restoration
    22 days ago by Newby7 ( Rear Admiral)
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    Good start getting things apart and ready for sanding.For me taking on a refit job can be more work than starting from new non the less it is satisfying when done. Enjoy the process keep us updated .
    Rick
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    ๐Ÿ’ฌ Sea Queen Restoration
    22 days ago by Scratchbuilder ( Lieutenant Commander)
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    Hi Simon.
    Well done.your into the blog section.
    Good to see some interior pictures.
    You clearly have a good deal of space to play with.
    Clearly the boat was fitted with a non electric motor as we can see the water cooling intake behind where the old prop was.
    You have a lot of remedial work to do by the look of things to make good after removing the water intake etc.
    Looking forward to the next update,but this is a lovely project.
    Regards Bill.
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