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    Apparently a very effective rig.

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    My Albion was scratch built by my friend - Brian. He also built the Chinese Junk some of you will have seen posted on this site before. A very talented and lovely man. Picture again postedfor you to see. Enjoy.
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    I have often admired Thames Barges in Maldon and on the East coast rivers, but find their complexity off-putting, fine , majestic things though they are. But for me the simplicity of a Norfolk/Suffolk wherry is very attractive and there are few books so much worth curling up with on a rainy November day as Black Sailed Traders by Roy Clark. OK, I can think of several, but you know what I mean. I am a very fussy sod and if I don't like how it looks, I can't get near it. To my eye, most foreign stuff is so much uglier than British, be they trains, cars, bikes, aircraft or boats. But then where would we be without Canadian woodies?

    Or the very occasional italian car

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    Each to their own, Westquay. I've nothing against wherries, ideally suited for the waters they worked. I'm a Thames Barge lover myself but can appreciate any traditional working craft.
    When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
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    Thanks for the detailed info, Nerys. Personally I still find them ugly and that won't have been helped by the unpleasant time I spent working in Holland, which I hated.

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    There seems to be some misconceptions about Dutch Barges. Most of what we now refer to as Dutch barges were originally developed as fishing boats suited to the area in which they were working. There were many different types and far from just being used on the canals fished all waters of the Netherlands and were quite capable of taking on the sharp nasty seas of places like Hollandsche Diep and the Ooste Schelde. I can assure you, even the Ijselmeer can get choppy under the right conditions. in fact Dutch Schuyts brought cargoes of eels to London from about the 1600s and a berth was still kept for them until the early 20th century, They were typical of what we would now call a Dutch barge. There were quite small ones like the Schouw and the Grundel that were inshore and lake fishers, then they varied in size through the Botters, Hoogars and Lemeraaks to the Tjalk and the Klipper which were cargo carriers. The Klippers were roughly the same size as Thames Barges and sometimes bigger and were rigged as Gaff Ketches, similar to our West Country Ketches. They were mainly fairly heavily built well in keeping with traditional wooden working boats. in latter days, steel replaced wood but they still followed the traditional designs. Luckily, so many Dutch Barges are still being built as yachts, decorated and fitted out very traditionally and there is considerable interest in the many events held for them every year.
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    When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
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    If it's a Dutch barge, finish it as one. I reckon the large handkerchief idea would do, Or piece of shirting fabric. You can glue the edges to look like seams. Glue a piece of thin rigging cord in as a bolt rope.

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    Thanks for the heads up.I agree re the Wherry sails being heavy and their being "prettier" And yes they were enclosed. The Dutchies were much lighter with lighter sailcloth as they were on canals and didn't have to contend with the rigours of the sea.Also their journeys were short between pick up and drop off points. Much like a lot of our canal boats. Often carrying domestic supplies so their cargo needed to be "Get attable" frequently hence the tarpaulins instead of Hatch covers. With my barge being just ten inches and made of balsa a heavy cloth would capsize her. Their is little draught just side/draught/lee boards instead of a keel to keep them from being pushed side ways by the wind. I suppose I could just finish it as static but where's the fun in that? LOL Regards John O/TπŸ‘
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    Banished to the opposite end, Baggy? That's a nice model. is it a scratchbuilt hull or a GRP one?

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    Good to see The Albion in a beautiful setting at Eaton Park, Norwich. Here’s a couple of pictures of my Albion yesterday.
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