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Almost home made Router Table.
Must be a Northern expression, heard it on this YT clip, had me crying😂
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Gotta love Aussie humour, we're both pretty similar. The other term that cracked them up, is not mentionable here😁
The big Criterion building was finished just before I left, and for the last month I was marking out the floor for the machines and the floor roller systems that were being moved over, (I welded most of the floor roller systems a year earlier as well - probably a few km of them!) The big vinyl laminator and moulding laminator they built in-house, were moved over from the small lower building in the pic (which in itself was almost the size of a football field).
They ended up closing about 10 yrs ago, due to the govt allowing Chinese crap in, which destroyed nearly all of the big furniture producing companies in the country. They used to make quality stuff and were the leaders in NZ. Employed around 300 staff at the peak. I think they were 2nd biggest in the South Pacific, after a company in Oz.
JB
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Gotta love Aussie humour, we're both pretty similar. The other term that cracked them up, is not mentionable here😁
The big Criterion building was finished just before I left, and for the last month I was marking out the floor for the machines and the floor roller systems that were being moved over, (I welded most of the floor roller systems a year earlier as well - probably a few km of them!) The big vinyl laminator and moulding laminator they built in-house, were moved over from the small lower building in the pic (which in itself was almost the size of a football field).
They ended up closing about 10 yrs ago, due to the govt allowing Chinese crap in, which destroyed nearly all of the big furniture producing companies in the country. They used to make quality stuff and were the leaders in NZ. Employed around 300 staff at the peak. I think they were 2nd biggest in the South Pacific, after a company in Oz.
JB
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Don't they also call them 'pluggers' down your neck of the woods Stevo. Hard to find the double pluggers here, most of ours are singles.😁
Just had a look at Carbatec here in Auckland, but they only show the mitreing attachments, but nothing in stock, (all back order.) Strangely enough they are just across the road from the old Criterion factory complex (in red)- Carbatec in yellow.
JB
Just had a look at Carbatec here in Auckland, but they only show the mitreing attachments, but nothing in stock, (all back order.) Strangely enough they are just across the road from the old Criterion factory complex (in red)- Carbatec in yellow.
JB
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Thanks for the interesting insight into professional woodworking equipment, and the CKD explanation what we would call "flat pack" bit like jandels and thongs 😁
I do recall the name Criterion.
The Incra is American the original and still available is in imperial as would be expected, mine is metric, everything is included along with the templates, the woodpecker base I don't think is available any more.
I got mine from Timbecon in Melbourne, looks like Ubuy or Carbatec carry Incra in your neck of the woods.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Cheers,
Stephen.
I do recall the name Criterion.
The Incra is American the original and still available is in imperial as would be expected, mine is metric, everything is included along with the templates, the woodpecker base I don't think is available any more.
I got mine from Timbecon in Melbourne, looks like Ubuy or Carbatec carry Incra in your neck of the woods.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Cheers,
Stephen.
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Almost home made Router Table.
Hi Stephen, looks pretty nice and compact and would be nice and accurate to use. Nice to be able to adjust things that finely.
The SCM (ITALY) table saw was similar to this,
https://www.scmgroup.com/en_US/scmwood/products/joinery-machines.c884/sliding-table-saws.896/nova-si-400.586
but an earlier model. Beam adjusts for angles/length/stops etc, saw tilts, has a scribing saw before the main blade. Very nice saw. Neighbour who does kitchens has a similar saw (different make) so if I need anything cut, I can ask him. CKD (completely knocked down -kitset) Company I worked for (Criterion Furniture) was the biggest in NZ. Used to originally make TV cabinets and a range of speakers (Wharfdale, JVC etc,) then changed to kitset furniture,- entertainment systems, TV cabinets, desks etc.
They had a sales branch in OZ and Japan as well. They originally made all of the old component cabinets (record player on top) for Technics, (Panasonic) but lost the contract to South America. We made a few million of their cabinets. The 2 brothers bought only the best machinery from Gabiani, Morbidelli, SCM, Stefani, Wadkin etc, -great machines to use. SCM owns or has merged with all of the Italian ones now.
Where is your Incra made,? might see if there are any here to look at. Does it come with all the templates, or do you just buy them as required? Good tools make woodworking so much easier and neater.
JB
The SCM (ITALY) table saw was similar to this,
https://www.scmgroup.com/en_US/scmwood/products/joinery-machines.c884/sliding-table-saws.896/nova-si-400.586
but an earlier model. Beam adjusts for angles/length/stops etc, saw tilts, has a scribing saw before the main blade. Very nice saw. Neighbour who does kitchens has a similar saw (different make) so if I need anything cut, I can ask him. CKD (completely knocked down -kitset) Company I worked for (Criterion Furniture) was the biggest in NZ. Used to originally make TV cabinets and a range of speakers (Wharfdale, JVC etc,) then changed to kitset furniture,- entertainment systems, TV cabinets, desks etc.
They had a sales branch in OZ and Japan as well. They originally made all of the old component cabinets (record player on top) for Technics, (Panasonic) but lost the contract to South America. We made a few million of their cabinets. The 2 brothers bought only the best machinery from Gabiani, Morbidelli, SCM, Stefani, Wadkin etc, -great machines to use. SCM owns or has merged with all of the Italian ones now.
Where is your Incra made,? might see if there are any here to look at. Does it come with all the templates, or do you just buy them as required? Good tools make woodworking so much easier and neater.
JB
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Hi JB,
The micro adjustment works off a thumb wheel with detent's each detent/notch being .05mm.
The brilliant thing in my opinion is the main adjustment is done with a thread this gives you quick accurate and repeatable positioning, the thread on my one is 1mm pitch.
The main use for the Incra is for doing all sorts of joints from dovetail to almost what ever you like, they supply templates that are inserted into a channel in the Aluminum extrusion, at the moment I only have a metric rule inserted.
Here are a few more photos to show what I am talking about.
I am guessing that SCM is a brand of table saw, though I don't know what CKD means.
Sounds like an interesting piece of equipment.
Cheers,
Stephen.
The micro adjustment works off a thumb wheel with detent's each detent/notch being .05mm.
The brilliant thing in my opinion is the main adjustment is done with a thread this gives you quick accurate and repeatable positioning, the thread on my one is 1mm pitch.
The main use for the Incra is for doing all sorts of joints from dovetail to almost what ever you like, they supply templates that are inserted into a channel in the Aluminum extrusion, at the moment I only have a metric rule inserted.
Here are a few more photos to show what I am talking about.
I am guessing that SCM is a brand of table saw, though I don't know what CKD means.
Sounds like an interesting piece of equipment.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Almost home made Router Table.
Thought it might be a few bob Stephen, but as you say, worth it for the adjustments I'm assuming it has Vernier scales on the slides. We used SCM table saws where I worked in a big CKD furniture co here, and they had all the fences etc for angles, bevels etc, and were great for accurate cutting. We worked to +.3mm -0 for everything which was nice to be able to do. They had a huge Italian Morbidelli (same family as the guy who races motorbikes) machining line about 100ft long, with micrometer scales, and you could get the board dimensioning saws to 0, pretty amazing.
JB
JB
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Hi JB,
Thanks for the complement, I think so as well. 😁
Yeah the Incra was certainly more than I would spend on a bottle of Scotch, coming in at a little shy of $700 AU, worth it I think considering the amount of versatility it offers.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Thanks for the complement, I think so as well. 😁
Yeah the Incra was certainly more than I would spend on a bottle of Scotch, coming in at a little shy of $700 AU, worth it I think considering the amount of versatility it offers.
Cheers,
Stephen.
Almost home made Router Table.
Hi Stephen, nifty bit of kit! like the way you did the router height adjuster using the original gauge mount. What did the Incra Jig set you back,?- not the price of a tray of Fosters, I'll bet😁
JB
JB
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Hi Everyone,
I don't know if I am posting this in the right spot or even if there is much interest in something like this, I had trouble finding a category.
Something that I have desired for a very long time is an Incra LS Positioner, after seeing one in person at a Working with Wood Exhibition and thinking I would like one of those, then on seeing the price thinking maybe some day, that is not to say they are extremely expensive but out of my budget range at that time.
I could see that this product has a really great amount of versatility for my needs, a lot of this due to the positioning using a thread and fine adjustment of the fence, brilliant idea in my opinion.
Well that day came late last year!!!
My Incra LS Positioner arrived late 2020. If I had gone and bought a Router Table with Router lift and stand it would have cost a lot more than I am prepared to spend this could have been around $1000 to $2000 without trying given that a nice Router lift costs from $450 to $800 AU dollars that is far too expensive for me.
My tight arse itus would have kicked in!!
The good thing about one of these lifts is the ability to adjust the Router bit height from the table top.
Fortunately I had a ready made Router Table top that was generously given to me from a deceased estate this was a big bonus even though it had a bit of a warp in it it was in pretty good shape.
At some point in 2020 my Admiral had a clean out of furniture in the house and among the items that were shoved into the garage (with some consternation from me, pointing out that the garage is not the Tardus and has a limit on space)
Was a 2 draw office trolley, this took up quite a bit of real estate in the workshop and sat there until after looking a a couple of You Tube videos on how other people have made there own Router Tables an idea came along to use it as a base for the forthcoming Router Table project.
After looking around online for a Router lift kit some of these are very nicely made with an equally nice price.
I ended up buying a $70 Router lift kit off Ebay and modified it to suit my old Hitachi ½” Router, I was really struggling to work out how the “kit” would work with my Router so some new parts were made up and minor modifications made to the mounting plate.
I looked at what other people have done and came up with my own interpretation of a removable insert, I ended up making 7 inserts the reason being that I want to be able to use even very small router bits and this means a good range of hole sizes through the center another reason is that once set up it is not that hard to produce more blank inserts than to go back and have to make a couple more later, which would irritate me greatly.
I added a base with wheels.
A simple box made out of melamine covered chip board and screwed onto the 2 draw unit.
A piece of plastic water pipe is used for helping remove dust.
I purchased an Emergency stop switch off Ebay and fitted it along with a light switch to cut power to the Estop switch because it “hums” when power is applied to it.
The underside and sides of the Router Table top were painted to seal the material, then some heavy steel angle screwed to the underside, hopefully this will stabilize the top and prevent any further movement.
I wanted to get the most out of my Incra jig so I came up with a way of fitting it to my 8” table saw. I used some rectangular hollow section steel to make an attachment that would be screwed onto the Incra jig then onto the Router Table using 2 coach head bolts and can be clamped onto the saw fence guide rails on my dads old 8” saw that I heavily modified a few years ago.
After the top had been screwed down securely, I used a jack plane to flatten the top this took a while though fortunately the warp wasn’t too bad when I was happy with the flatness I applied a liquid wax to seal the top.
I am very happy with my new bit of gear it works as hoped on trimming down stock and I am able to reliably adjust then remove .1 mm or .004” without any worry's.
Thanks for looking having a look.
Cheers,
Stephen.
I don't know if I am posting this in the right spot or even if there is much interest in something like this, I had trouble finding a category.
Something that I have desired for a very long time is an Incra LS Positioner, after seeing one in person at a Working with Wood Exhibition and thinking I would like one of those, then on seeing the price thinking maybe some day, that is not to say they are extremely expensive but out of my budget range at that time.
I could see that this product has a really great amount of versatility for my needs, a lot of this due to the positioning using a thread and fine adjustment of the fence, brilliant idea in my opinion.
Well that day came late last year!!!
My Incra LS Positioner arrived late 2020. If I had gone and bought a Router Table with Router lift and stand it would have cost a lot more than I am prepared to spend this could have been around $1000 to $2000 without trying given that a nice Router lift costs from $450 to $800 AU dollars that is far too expensive for me.
My tight arse itus would have kicked in!!
The good thing about one of these lifts is the ability to adjust the Router bit height from the table top.
Fortunately I had a ready made Router Table top that was generously given to me from a deceased estate this was a big bonus even though it had a bit of a warp in it it was in pretty good shape.
At some point in 2020 my Admiral had a clean out of furniture in the house and among the items that were shoved into the garage (with some consternation from me, pointing out that the garage is not the Tardus and has a limit on space)
Was a 2 draw office trolley, this took up quite a bit of real estate in the workshop and sat there until after looking a a couple of You Tube videos on how other people have made there own Router Tables an idea came along to use it as a base for the forthcoming Router Table project.
After looking around online for a Router lift kit some of these are very nicely made with an equally nice price.
I ended up buying a $70 Router lift kit off Ebay and modified it to suit my old Hitachi ½” Router, I was really struggling to work out how the “kit” would work with my Router so some new parts were made up and minor modifications made to the mounting plate.
I looked at what other people have done and came up with my own interpretation of a removable insert, I ended up making 7 inserts the reason being that I want to be able to use even very small router bits and this means a good range of hole sizes through the center another reason is that once set up it is not that hard to produce more blank inserts than to go back and have to make a couple more later, which would irritate me greatly.
I added a base with wheels.
A simple box made out of melamine covered chip board and screwed onto the 2 draw unit.
A piece of plastic water pipe is used for helping remove dust.
I purchased an Emergency stop switch off Ebay and fitted it along with a light switch to cut power to the Estop switch because it “hums” when power is applied to it.
The underside and sides of the Router Table top were painted to seal the material, then some heavy steel angle screwed to the underside, hopefully this will stabilize the top and prevent any further movement.
I wanted to get the most out of my Incra jig so I came up with a way of fitting it to my 8” table saw. I used some rectangular hollow section steel to make an attachment that would be screwed onto the Incra jig then onto the Router Table using 2 coach head bolts and can be clamped onto the saw fence guide rails on my dads old 8” saw that I heavily modified a few years ago.
After the top had been screwed down securely, I used a jack plane to flatten the top this took a while though fortunately the warp wasn’t too bad when I was happy with the flatness I applied a liquid wax to seal the top.
I am very happy with my new bit of gear it works as hoped on trimming down stock and I am able to reliably adjust then remove .1 mm or .004” without any worry's.
Thanks for looking having a look.
Cheers,
Stephen.
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